Tony Overbay LMFT

Waking Up to Narcissism

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"Waking Up to Narcissism" is a podcast hosted by Tony Overbay, LMFT, host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast, dedicated to helping individuals recognize and navigate narcissistic traits and tendencies in their relationships and within themselves. With a focus on emotional immaturity versus narcissism, Tony provides tools and guidance for personal growth and managing relationships with narcissistic or emotionally immature individuals, even if that individual is you!

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Tony Overbay LMFT

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Jun 24, 2026

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Episodes

Ross Rosenberg, Author of The Human Magnet Syndrome - From Self-Love Deficit to Self-Love Abundance 24.06.2022

Tony welcomes Ross Rosenberg, author of the best-selling book “The Human Magnet Syndrom - The Codependent Narcissist Trap,” https://www.amazon.com/Human-Magnet-Syndrome-Codependent-Narcissist/dp/B0B31MDWYM/ to the podcast. Ross shares his personal story of what led him to write The Human Magnet Syndrome. Tony and Ross break down “Self-Love Deficit Disorder,” and Ross shares what it looks like to m...

Parenting, Co-Parenting and the Role of Validation with a Narcissist 10.06.2022

Tony tackles the topic of co-parenting with a narcissist or emotionally immature spouse/ex-spouse. He discusses the significance of a child's reliance on external validation from a parent and what that looks like when couples stay together purely for the children. And he breaks down the article "How a Narcissistic Co-Parent Can Manipulate Your Child," by Erin Leonard Ph. D. https://www.psychologyt...

Emotionally Liberated or Defeatedly Discarded? Difficulties in Moving on from a Narcissist 30.05.2022

The pain of the narcissistic "discard" can at times feel unbearable. And for many, it seems that the harder you work to try and make sense of the discard, the more it hurts. But getting to a genuine acceptance doesn't even feel like it is on the radar. Tony digs deeper into how we show up in relationships as emotionally immature, both parties, with an almost unspoken agreement that we will mature...

Does the Narcissist REALLY Believe What They're Saying? Understanding the Role of Confabulation in Gaslighting 20.05.2022

If you've ever been on the receiving end of gaslighting, you've probably wondered "does this person honestly believe what they are saying right now? Because they seem SO certain that it makes me question my own reality...even about something I KNOW is true!" As with all things narcissistic, there is definitely a spectrum and a lot of variables at play, but understanding "narcissistic confabulation...

Coercion, Carrots and Sticks - All Get the Donkey to Move But at What Cost? 06.05.2022

Tony takes excerpts from David Foster Wallace's "This Is Water," Kenyon College commencement speech to discuss the need to step outside of our own ego, and experience, in order to understand others https://fs.blog/david-foster-wallace-this-is-water/ He then discusses Russ Harris's ACT metaphor "Donkeys, Carrots and Sticks" to talk about using love, or coercion to get our needs met/motivate others....

Should I Stay or Should I Go? 22.04.2022

Tony tackles the question he receives the most from listeners, should I stay or should I go? And if I decide to go, when? Plus he discusses what the training of ordinary mice to go through mazes can tell us about ourselves from Vanessa Van Edwards's article "Expectancy Effect: Improve Performance With This Human Behavior Quirk," from https://www.scienceofpeople.com/expectancy-effect/ Go to http://...

The Cure for the Pathological Loneliness of the Narcissistic Discard - Moving from Self-Love Deficit to Abundance 15.04.2022

Ending your relationship with a narcissist can leave one feeling discarded, less than, and what Ross Rosenberg, author of “Human Magnet Syndrome” calls “Pathologically lonely.” That loneliness is part of what Rosenberg Identifies as “Self-Love Deficit Disorder.” https://www.selfloverecovery.com/pages/self-love-deficit-disorder-and-self-love-abundance In today’s episode, Tony reads a few listener r...

Isolating, Monitoring and Manipulation, Oh My! Coercive Control In the Narcissistic Relationship 01.04.2022

Tony Overbay, LMFT, defines "Coercive Control," as more than domestic violence. Courts across the country are now including isolation, monitoring one's movements, finances, daily behaviors, and more. Tony refers to the article "Does Your Relationship Include Coercive Control," by Bill Eddy, LCSW, JD https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/5-types-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/202203/does-your-rela...

Wait, Was That Story About Me? The Consistency of Narcissism 28.03.2022

Tony shares a letter from someone recognizing the patterns of narcissism in their own relationship after hearing examples of others. Plus Tony shares an excerpt from the book "The Girl Before," by Rena Olson. In the story, one woman learns of how unusual it feels to discover what a "healthy" relationship looks like. Tony mentioned his "Magnetize Your Marriage" workshop happening on April 7th. If y...

How the Narcissist Slowly Destroys Ones Sense of Self - Death by a Thousand Cuts Pt. 2 19.03.2022

Tony Overbay, LMFT, gives more examples of how narcissists slowly destroy their partner's sense of self, using the "death by a thousand cuts" phenomenon. Narcissists will employ a consistent and relentless amount of small, hurtful phrases and actions that may feel like they aren't a big deal to those who haven't experienced the pattern. But to the victim of narcissism, it feels like they are slowl...

Parenting, Co-Parenting and Parallel Parenting with a Narcissist 07.03.2022

Tony covers parenting, co-parenting, and parallel parenting with a narcissist. Tony refers to the article "Co-parenting with a narcissist: tips and strategies," from https://www.custodyxchange.com/topics/custody/special-circumstances/co-parenting-with-narcissist.php Plus, he shares a listener email that discusses the importance of working on yourself outside of the relationship with the narcissist...

The Neuroscience of Narcissism with Nate Christensen, APCC 27.02.2022

Nate Christensen, APCC, joins Tony to discuss the neuroscience of narcissism. Nate references the article "Can neuroscience help to understand narcissism? A systematic review of an emerging field" from Personality Neuroscience https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/personality-neuroscience/article/can-neuroscience-help-to-understand-narcissism-a-systematic-review-of-an-emerging-field/B5CB5310003D...

The Emotional Toll of a Narcissistic Relationship - One Woman's Story 20.02.2022

Tony dives deep into one woman's story of the gradual process of losing herself to a narcissist and the lengthy process of escaping the emotionally unhealthy relationship. With the continuing "sheltering" rules spreading across the country, PLEASE do not think you can't continue or begin therapy now. http://betterhelp.com/virtualcouch can put you quickly in touch with licensed mental health profes...

Can Therapy with a Narcissist Help, or Does it Make Things Worse? 12.02.2022

Tony answers questions about the importance of working with a therapist that is familiar with emotional immaturity, or narcissistic traits and tendencies, and he shares listener stories of the positives and negatives of trying to attend couples therapy with a narcissist. With the continuing "sheltering" rules spreading across the country, PLEASE do not think you can't continue or begin therapy now...

New Insights on the Narcissistic Trauma Bond - The Need for Survival 04.02.2022

Tony provides new insight on the narcissistic trauma bond. He references the article "What Is Trauma Bonding?" by Ariane Resnick, CNC. With the continuing "sheltering" rules spreading across the country, PLEASE do not think you can't continue or begin therapy now. http://betterhelp.com/virtualcouch can put you quickly in touch with licensed mental health professionals who can meet through text, em...

How To Gray Rock Through a Narcissistic Smear Campaign...with Extra Butter 28.01.2022

Tony defines and gives examples of two common terms used in the context of narcissism, "gray rocking" and "smear campaign," and he explains how even with words to explain the situation that many people find themselves in, the process has only just begun. Thanks to the Narcissist Family Files for their glossary of narcissistic terms https://narcissistfamilyfiles.com/2017/09/19/narcissism-101-a-glos...

How to Prevent Your Kids From Becoming Narcissists 21.01.2022

Tony reads listener emails including one that asks questions about how to avoid passing along narcissistic trauma to your children and he reads an amazing poem submitted by a listener that beautifully describes the process of awakening to the narcissistic traits and tendencies of a partner. He also discusses how avoidant and anxious attachment styles often come from emotionally unavailable/immatur...

Exploring Narcissistic Relationships with Suzanne Falter, Writer, Speaker and Podcast Host 15.01.2022

Tony interviews author, and podcast host Suzanne Falter https://suzannefalter.com/ on her experience navigating a relationship with a narcissistic partner. Suzanne Falter is a successful author, podcast host, speaker, and survivor of a relationship with a narcissistic partner. Suzanne talks about the significant life changes that led to a cross-country move and a new relationship full of love-bomb...

The Narcissist and the Highly Sensitive Person (HSP) 08.01.2022

Tony talks about the connection between Highly Sensitive People (HSPs) and Narcissism. He refers to the website Highly Sensitive Person (http://hsperson.com), and he discusses an excellent article, “Do Highly Sensitive People Attract Narcissists?” By Andre Solo from https://highlysensitiverefuge.com/highly-sensitive-people-attract-narcissists/ With the continuing "sheltering" rules spreading acros...

Emotional Maturity vs. Narcissism, OK I'm Awake, Now How Do I Communicate? 31.12.2021

Tony reads some listener emails and answers questions around narcissism and the correlation with emotional immaturity. He also addresses why more men exhibit narcissistic traits and tendencies and he dips a toe in the water and then dives all the way in with how to communicate with a narcissist using his "4 Pillars of a Connected Conversation." With the continuing "sheltering" rules spreading acro...

BONUS Why Am I the Last Person to Know What to Do With My Life? 24.12.2021

In this special bonus episode, Tony shares the importance of giving yourself grace when you find yourself all caught up in your thoughts and feelings. Then Tony shares an episode from The Virtual Couch that will help you begin to set the table for the changes that are about to occur in your life as you continue to wake up to the narcissistic relationships in your life, or even if you're beginning...

Navigating a No-Contact Rule with a Narcissist 17.12.2021

For many people trying to break free from unhealthy narcissistic relationships, a "no contact" policy is recommended. Tony discusses the challenges of going "no contact", as well as what healthy vs unhealthy reasons, look like for adopting a no-contact policy. Tony refers to the article "Narcissists and the No Contact Rule" from https://psychologia.co/narcissist-no-contact/ With the continuing "sh...

How Do You Share Your Narcissistic Awareness with Others...or Can You? Plus Welcome to Holland! 10.12.2021

In today’s episode shares the poem “Welcome to Holland” in the context of accepting, and mourning, the relationships that many people realize they won’t have with the narcissist in their lives, be it their spouse, parent, adult child, boss, etc. Then Tony covers the topic of what is OK to share with others who may not yet have woken up to the narcissistic traits or tendencies of others, but who ma...

Narcissists and the Holidays - Gifts, Gaslighting and the Grinch 03.12.2021

Tony turns to his online group and asks for examples of what gift-giving looks like in a narcissistic relationship. He also tackles an email from someone waking up to their own narcissistic traits and tendencies. With the continuing "sheltering" rules spreading across the country, PLEASE do not think you can't continue or begin therapy now. http://betterhelp.com/virtualcouch can put you quickly in...

The Importance of Self-Care In Narcissistic Relationships: Raising Your Emotional Baseline 26.11.2021

Self-care is NOT selfish; it's time to raise your Emotional Baseline! Tony talks about his number one rule of life and how imperative it is when you need to make big decisions or find yourself in a relationship with someone with narcissistic traits or tendencies, whether it's a spouse, parent, employer, or church leader. Tony refers to the book "Buddha's Brain: The Practical Neuroscience of Happin...

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