David Thompson & Sherie Christensen
Two Therapists Talking
David and Sherie talk about self-worth, sexual addiction, betrayal trauma, depression, anxiety, and other therapy issues. Each podcast is a different topic of conversation with tools, guidance, and help for navigating these complex problems. Learn more at https://www.twotherapiststalking.com.
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Episodes
162 About the CSAT Model of Recovery for the partner 15.06.2026 24:34
David & Sherie begin talking about the CSAT model of recovery but for the partner who has been betrayed. In this episode, we talk about safety and stabilization and boundaries and containment. We talk about what these things are and how to do them. This will help the partner take steps early that will encourage healthy recovery instead of simply going off of how you feel!
161 About the CSAT Model of Addiction Recovery, Part C 02.06.2026 26:21
David & Sherie continue talking about the CSAT model of addiction recovery for the addict or offending partner, covering the last 4 tasks including: Task 5 — Rigorous honesty + therapeutic disclosure, task 6 — Restitution and relational repair, task 7 — Trauma/shame resolution + secure attachment, and task 8 — Maintenance and growth. Listen to learn more!
160 About the CSAT Model of Addiction Recovery, Part B 18.05.2026 23:03
David & Sherie continue talking about the CSAT model of addiction recovery, covering the first 4 tasks including: Task 1 — Break through denial and stabilize, task 2 — Understand the addiction system, task 3 — Build a recovery program, and task 4 — Three Circles boundaries. Listen to learn more!
159 About the CSAT model of Addiction Recovery 04.05.2026 23:41
David & Sherie outline the CSAT (certified sexual addictions therapist) model of addiction recovery. This is a great episode for someone just starting the path of recovery to know more about Dr. Patrick Carne's model and why it's so effective. This includes a model that follows this order: Crisis → sobriety → integrity → intimacy → growth (skills + support + truth). Listen to learn more!
158 We continue talked about the mood cure and supplements and eating for feeling good! 20.04.2026 25:04
David & Sherie finish talking about the mood cure and why we need to pay attention to what we eat as an important part of feeling better and not neglect our brain and its needs. We talk about other supplements and why they matter and ask you to answer some questions to determine where you're at.
157 About the brain/mood connection and taking care of ourselves 06.04.2026 22:57
David & Sherie talk about how important a nourished brain is in feeling good and why a lack in important nutrients can have a big impact. Learn more with the book the mood cure by Julia Ross.
156: We talk about some of life's greatest truths - and why you should know them! 23.03.2026 31:22
David & Sherie talk about some things that overlap therapy and ancient writings and lessons and why they matter today. You will learn about how you're not separate, fear is an illusion and Love is the Truth, your mind shapes reality (it’s not a camera, it’s a projector), your ego is the enemy and everything is connected. Here's the link to learn more: https://youtu.be/ADYdypHZb2A?si=OQC2Q63_Nt...
155 About how to manage triggers in the moment: NNAC 09.03.2026 24:06
David & Sherie talk about how to manage triggers and temptations, whether it's a temper or anxiety or sexual craving or negative self-talk or anything else. Learn a simple technique that you can use in different situations to slow down and respond to situations instead of just reacting: NNAC - Notice, Name, Allow and Choose.
154 What is direct hurt versus indirect hurt? And why does it matter? 23.02.2026 20:26
David & Sherie talk about direct hurt versus indirect hurt, what those are, and why they matter. In relationships, intention and motive matter a lot! We still need to address and change hurtful behavior, but we don't want to make hurtful behavior more hurtful by how we interpret it, making reconciliation even more difficult. Listen to learn more!
153 We answer some questions about what to do if we answered no to important questions 09.02.2026 20:35
David & Sherie talk about what to do if you answered no to any of the questions we asked in our last episode (Can you apologize? Do you have empathy? Can you receive input and feedback?) Keep your honesty and listen to some of the things we can do when we're struggling to taking things personally.
152 Can you be wrong?! Asking yourself some hard questions about yourself - be honest! 26.01.2026 23:17
David & Sherie discuss some things to ask yourself and be honest about how you're showing up in relationships to see if you engage in any less effective patterns of behavior. Be willing and honest enough to take a hard look at what you might be doing that is getting in the way of the relationship you want!
151 About differences between men and women and overcoming fear 12.01.2026 22:24
David & Sherie talk about men and women and what happens if core needs aren't met, usually out of fear, and what to do about that. It's important that individuals are okay with being wrong, and can work through things that are difficult!
150 Happy holidays wish and we're doing some good self-care! 29.12.2025 2:34
David & Sherie take some time off for self-care and wish their listeners a happy holidays and hope they do the same!
149 What does control have to do with recovery? And how does culture affect recovery? (2 of 2) 15.12.2025 24:49
David & Sherie continue talking about finding the best balance in a relationship, especially when coming from discovery of deception or betrayal, and how to accomplish that in healthy ways for both partners.
148 What does control have to do with recovery? And how does culture affect recovery? (1 of 2) 01.12.2025 23:54
David & Sherie talk more about why a history of inequality or power imbalance can affect recovery now. How our ultimate goal is to find better balance so there's healthy reconciliation in the process. We explore why some women may feel so strongly about using what's happened to maintain control instead of seeking to really understand their partner struggling with addiction. Honesty is vital, a...
147 Carefully considering our narrative when experiencing betrayal trauma 17.11.2025 23:18
David and Sherie continue talking about betrayal trauma and the pendulum swing that can happen as we're doing our best to navigate the hurt that occurs with partner betrayal. We need to consider the reasons behind behavior and separate the person from the pattern, having grace for the reasons behind the behavior while also protecting ourself. Listen to learn more!
146 Betrayal Trauma and managing our perspectives 03.11.2025 27:20
David and Sherie talk about betrayal trauma and the long-term effects, a request from a listener, and where this concept leads us. We talk about the effects but also consider the impact of how our beliefs and the tendency to swing to the other end of the pendulum when hurt can complicate things. The narrative we adopt really influences where healing and reconciliation goes. Listen to learn more ab...
145 About what makes your spouse happy and fulfilled (2 of 2) 20.10.2025 22:20
David & Sherie now talk about 5 things that men need from their partners, or what tends to make men feel the most fulfilled in relationships. We talk about mens' needs including recreational companionship, sexual fulfillment, admiration, domestic support, and an attractive spouse. Listen as we go through each and break them down!
144 About what makes your spouse happy and fulfilled (1 of 2) 06.10.2025 22:23
David & Sherie talk about 5 things that women need from their partners, or what tends to make women feel the most fulfilled in relationships. We talk about mens' needs in the next episode. These include things like affection, conversation, honesty and openness, financial support and family commitment.
143 About taking beliefs and perspectives to the extreme 22.09.2025 20:29
David & Sherie talk about the challenge of having extreme beliefs about recovery and relationship frustrations, and how to avoid that. This includes misusing words like narcissism, abuse, boundaries, or safety. Using these words out of context to justify control or ever greater boundaries is not going to be helpful to either recovery, or relationships.
142 About dealing with addiction recovery when also struggling with ADHD (3 of 3) 08.09.2025 21:55
David & Sherie finish talking about addiction recovery and specifically how to be more focused doing recovery when struggling with ADHD or ADD, We then summarize so you have a simple, bigger picture perspective about how to do recovery if also struggling with ADHD. As a summary, these things are important: Incorporate treatment for both ADHD and addiction Keep recovery conversations shorter an...
141 About dealing with addiction recovery when also struggling with ADHD (2 of 3) 25.08.2025 27:29
David & Sherie continue talking about addiction recovery and specifically how to be more focused doing recovery when struggling with ADHD or ADD, What things will help, and what is different? Listen to learn more!
140 About dealing with addiction recovery when also struggling with ADHD (1 of 3) 12.08.2025 23:36
David & Sherie talk about addiction recovery and what is different and how to recover more effectively when struggling with ADHD or ADD, something we see a lot of in our offices. If you suspect you or your partner may struggle with this, these episodes will really be helpful!
139 Sherie does a mindfulness meditation for you 28.07.2025 23:43
Sherie does a body scan mindfulness meditation in this week's episode. Prepare to relax and listen to what she shares and we hope you enjoy it time and time again!
138 About using a daily couples check-in process using FANOS 14.07.2025 20:45
David & Sherie talk about FANOS, which is an acronym and a way for couples to check in daily and stay close and connected. It's especially helpful when overcoming addiction and creates accountability and honesty. It stands for Feelings, Affirmation, Needs, Ownership, and Sobriety or Spirituality. We go into detail on these and help you to know how to do it going forward.
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