The Out of the Cave Podcast

Today’s episode is the first of its kind on the OOTC pod! Abby is a group coaching alumni who came in to do a one on one session to go deeper into some areas where she was still struggling. When we discovered how poignant the questions and topics she was bringing up were, we decided to hit record and let it happen so that you could experience this uncut conversation in real time with us. Topics in...

Lisa sits with long-time, one-on-one, client Out of the Cave client, Elisa. They dive deep into a conversation surrounding how the work inside Out of the Cave heals us beyond our relationship with food, eating and body image. Topics: The raise in consciousness around food, eating, and body image Diets working until they don’t Facing the reality of motherhood and family life The spiritual component...

Lisa sits down and talks to intuitive habit coach, Heather Javier, about advocating for yourself, managing your time, and stacking the cards in your favor to create habits that support how you want to feel and the person you want to be. Topics Include What it means to be about What it means to be heart happy Boundaries and support Eating habits Owning your time [3:00] Heather introduces herself an...

Lisa continues answering listener questions surrounding the intentional weight loss series and speaks about the Minnesota Starvation Study. Topics Include: Radical Responsibility Trusting your lived experience Embodying your body as it is Surrender [2:30] Question 1 When pursuing intentional weight loss, what are some things to watch out for to make sure the process is staying in an aligned, holis...

Lisa answers listener questions in response to the three part Intentional Weight Loss series. Topics : Emotional Sobriety Emotional Solutions Establishing an inner environment of safety Staying in your lane Authenticity over attachment [3:00] Lisa speaks to the “levels” she outlines in Module 1 in the Out of the Cave 14 Week Group Coaching Program and how we must stabilize in our relationship with...

Lisa deepens the conversation on intentional weight loss and talks about the reality about what must be done on the physical level and how to make the process safe on a mental, emotional, spiritual level. Topics Include: Behavior Modification Feeling safe around foods that were black listed by diet culture The energy around your intentional weight loss “plan” Your window of tolerance [2:00] Lisa e...

Lisa continues the conversation about intentional weight loss in this solo episode. Topics Include: Challenging conditioned belief systems Embracing your power with aligned intention Trauma around past weight loss/diets The “How to” of intentional weight loss in a way that is not dieting Bioindividuality [3:00] Lisa discusses flaws she sees in a popular belief surrounding weight loss and how to mo...

Lisa and Alé sit down to talk about what it looks like to pursue weight loss “the Out of the Cave way,” without dieting and from a place of safety and acceptance. Topics Include : Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs Health = Physical, Mental, Emotional, Environmental, Social, and Spiritual Health Your Own Conscious Input Radical Acceptance [6:00] Alé shares the difficulties she encountered during the “fou...

Lisa sits down with her own former coach, Kristi, who specializes in helping female CEOs rebalance their lives. Kristi shares how her mindset around her autoimmune disease realigned her life. Lisa gets honest about an area of life she struggled to balance after taking control of her relationship with food, eating, and her body and building a successful business. Topics Include: Abandoning a life w...

Lisa speaks with group coaching alum, Abby. Abby reflects on how normalized and unquestioned toxic fitness and diet culture was in the 80s and 90s, as well as the mental impact of constantly feeling like a failure when the newest plan, diet, or program didn’t end her struggles around food and eating for good. She shares how she used food emotionally and her experience swinging from diet culture to...

This week, Nate chats with Nate. Nate is an Out of the Cave group coaching alum, who is affectionately known as half of “Nelly,” as he and his wife, Kelly, went through the 14 week program together. Nate dreamed and planned very seriously to be an astronaut and fly fighter jets as a child, and recounts how that dream falling apart led to fifteen years of yo-yo dieting. Topics include: Using food a...

Ivette is a chef and a self-professed food lover, and this relatable episode chronicles her journey of yoyo dieting and breaking the cycle of shame around her body. From a very young age, she knew people were looking at her body and judging her body, so there was a lot of pressure in every area to lose weight and diet. As someone who went through both the private coaching and the group program, Iv...

Jade experienced some very strong gut reactions to hearing Lisa’s podcast for the first time but was able to work through those feeling to recognize what her brain was trying to tell her about herself. In this unplanned episode, they discuss many of the main tenets of TMS work and how people react to things they aren’t ready to hear. Topics include: [3:50] Jade’s history with TMS through the work...

In this episode, we welcome back the amazing Nicole Sachs to dive deeper into the connections of the mind-body-soul system. A powerhouse in the world of TMS (Tension Myositis Syndrome), Nicole has been teaching and leading retreats for years after being mentored by Dr. Sarno himself, who coined the diagnosis after working with many patients suffering from psychosomatic conditions that caused physi...

As a child of divorce with an alcoholic father and an abusive mother, Amanda used food from an early age to find the comfort that her home life lacked. Chronic back pain eventually became intense enough that she was taking multiple days off in a row from work and led her to discover John Sarno and Nicole Sachs in the world of TMS study and recovery. Topics include: [2:39] The first decade or so of...

Early ulcers as a child led to a lifelong need to control what Hannah ate. Together with Lisa, she takes us through her journey from developing an eating disorder to relapse, pregnancy, exercise addiction, and a devastating back injury. Chronic pain and the work of Nicole Sachs led her to realize she was still using food to replace her feelings and she began the intense work of finding freedom. To...

At long last, a highly requested topic is discussed on the Out of the Cave pod! This week Lisa talks about intuitive eating and compares the principles set forth in the book of the same title by Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resch with the idea of truly intuitive, instinctual eating and understanding of yourself as a spiritual being in a physical body. Topics include: [4:06] Belief systems in relation...

Sherene has been a part of the group coaching program, as well as the alumni aftercare group. Today she shares with us her experience with multiple childhood moves, yo-yo dieting, body dysmorphia, and taking back the power to make decisions in her life. Topics include: [4:25] Sherene’s earliest memories about her body, experiencing a growing awareness of her body and shape. Learning how to be a hu...

Ilona found Lisa through the Omega Institute and was so inspired by her journey that she joined the Out of the Cave team after going through group coaching! Today she shares her experience of growing up feeling completely disconnected and dissociated from her body as a result of trauma. Ilona and Lisa discuss when weight loss feels unsafe, the impact of trauma in our relationships with food and ou...

Jen’s journey began by listening to this very podcast! After going through the group program and aftercare (the alumni group), she’s here on the pod that started it all for her. Jen is a scientist in the field of cancer research, a wife and mom, and she struggled for years with losing and gaining weight until she finally discovered Out of the Cave through a friend. Together, Jen and Lisa discuss t...

This week we have former client Monica joining us on the pod! She recently completed the 14 week group coaching program and is here today to share more about internalizing the voices of others and how to heal from that. She and Lisa discuss the importance of having a supportive community while doing this work, as well as building an awareness of when you are perpetuating abuse against yourself. To...

THANK YOU to every single person who took the time to listen to last week’s pod. We received more feedback than ever before, and your texts, emails, comments, and DMs made a huge impression. Sometimes the most important thing is just knowing that you’re not alone, and that your struggle is echoed by so many others around the world. Thank you so much for all your support and kindness, and I hope th...

After a recent upheaval in her life, Lisa experienced a relapse in her relationship with food, dealing with emotions by eating and feeling like she needed food to survive. Despite the intense shame and fear, she was able to use years of doing the work to help herself out of it, but it wasn’t easy. Alé Cardinalle returns to the podcast to interview Lisa about these recent changes in her life, how t...

Caroline Lee Dewey is a transformational coach, healer, medium, all around amazing human being, AND one of our amazing guests for the Out of the Cave and Into Your Power Retreat happening in San Diego this September. We are so thrilled to welcome her onto the podcast, where she shares with Lisa and with you her story, the aspects of healing, her definition of spirituality, and so much more. Topics...

One of Lisa’s early clients, Kristen is not alone in being unable to recall the early years of her life in relation to food. Under pressure to keep the peace in the family, get good grades, and participate in sports, she turned to food unknowingly as an emotional coping tool. Topics include: [8:20] Kristen was the peace keeper in her family, under an immense amount of pressure to bring home good g...