The Out of the Cave Podcast

Lisa sits down with influencer, YouTuber, and life coach, Alyse to talk about her history and struggles around food, eating, and body image and segue into her expertise on the five survival patterns. Topics Include: Wanting to look better and feel better Orthorexia Five personality patterns [5:00] Alyse reflects the beginnings of sharing her life on social media and addressing her struggles with f...

Lisa sits down with Tori for a real time heal to address why she has been struggling to accept her own image in the mirror since she was a child. Topics: Living with a parent who is critical of your body  Alcohol’s effect on eating Grieving the parents we deserved Objectifying ourselves and healing body image issues [6:00] Tori recounts her earliest memories around food, eating, and body image and...

Lisa sits down with her oldest friend and bestie, Cristina, to talk about how self-described, lifelong skeptic and rejector of all things woo-woo and granola, Cristina, had a spiritual awakening, against her will in a hotel room in Houston, Texas and why it’s all Lisa’s fault. Topics Include: Being a spiritual skeptic to having a spiritual awakening   Adverse reaction to cannabis  Experiencing sev...

Lisa sits down with Mourad, who, like Lisa, has sustained an over 100 pound weight loss for over a decade, to talk about his passion: the role of the mind in long term, sustainable weight loss. Topics Include: The Gabriel Method Childhood trauma and weight gain The role of acceptance in transformation Self Inquiry [7:00] Mourad shares how food became comfort at 5 years old, after being separated f...

Lisa sits down with fellow personal trainer turned social worker, Elyse Schunkewitz, LCSW, to talk about why and how they’ve both moved from more traditional modalities of therapy to improving their own lives and the lives of their clients with an integrative, mind-body-soul approach. Topics Include: Western medicine vs holistic healing  Pathologizing the human experience Functional neuroscience R...

Lisa sits down with Laura, an Out of the Cave Podcast listener who’s life and mind-body-soul system was turned upside down after an accident. Laura details the road in which being hit by a drunk drunk driver led her out of the cave and into a life of recovery. Topics: Grief and loss in childhood and the impact on the family system Dieting beginning in childhood and continuing for decades Toxic die...

Lisa sits down with hypnotherapist, Lynnsey Robinson, who helps people rewire their mind to overcome limiting beliefs and believe what they want to believe. Topics Include: Limiting Beliefs Expansive vs contracting fear Shaping the metaphysical mind Hypnotherapy Self Love [8:30] Lynnsey shares the wild story that led to her path of hypnotherapy [26:30] Lynnsey reflects on her spiritual background...

Lisa sits down with group alum Phoebe, who unlike most OOTC-ers never identified as an emotional eater nor restrictive dieter, but came to the work battling intense anxiety and body image issues. Topics Include: Anxiety beginning in childhood Early body image messages Self Injury Living a life in recovery [8:30] Phoebe recalls her childhood anxiety and having body image challenges very early, hitt...

Lisa answers listener questions. Topics Include: The intersection of diet and chronic pain Dealing with weight gain due to recovery Childhood obesity and the ACE study [4:00] Q1: Listener begins by providing background about being bigger than the other women in her family and that feeling unacceptable growing up. She goes on to describe chronic pain symptoms that were quelled by an extremely restr...

Lisa sits down with best-selling author, transformational facilitator, podcaster, and blogger, Kelsey Aida to talk about what it means to embody radical self-love. Healing the emotional body Eliminating unnecessary suffering Facing ALL feelings Compassionate Inquiry Parts Work [5:30] Kelsey describes her first spiritual awakening and dark night of the soul and how that launched her into her purpos...

Lisa sits down with group coaching alum, Jamie, to talk about her experience growing up as a kid who was bigger than the others and who went on to numb, run, disassociate, and self-soothe with food, alcohol, and sex, and what life is like now, out of the cave. Topics: Growing up chubby Using food, alcohol, sex, all the things to self-soothe Practicing non-judgment and choosing love over fear [3:10...

Lisa sits down with group coaching alum Theresa for a live coaching session about maintaining a life of recovery. Topics: Disordered behaviors versus thoughts Grieving option 3 Maintaining recovery Presence [5:00] Theresa shares that she has stopped behaviors that caused her seek out help through the group coaching program, and reveals her current pain point [16:00] Theresa explains her inner dial...

Lisa sits down with group coaching alum, Theresa, as she bravely shares her life story and the ways in which eating and dieting are interwoven in the highest and lowest points. Topics Include: Moral value and rigid restrictions being put on food during childhood Being a parentified child Shame after the diet “fails” Finding comfort and control in both food and dieting [5:00] Theresa reflects on he...

Lisa sits down, again, with Jenny Campbell, this time to access her knowledge as an enneagram teacher to dive into the types, and Lisa has a live session with Jenny! The difference between the enneagram and personality tests How to type yourself The nine enneagram personality types defined [1:50] Jenny defines the enneagram and talks about her introduction to the enneagram when she reunited with h...

Lisa sits down with Jenny, former group coaching client and enneagram teacher, to talk about recovery from dieting addiction. Topics: Body Image Dieting Addiction The Middle Place between Diet Culture and Anti-Diet Culture Our Bodies Becoming What They Are [5:00] Jenny recalls her earliest memories regarding food, eating, and body image [19:00] Jenny talks about the bullying she incurred from arou...

In this solo episode, Lisa answers listener questions surrounding her 150 pound weight loss. Topics Include: Big T vs little t trauma Dieting into disordered eating A discussion on “Loving your body” Being objectified after weight loss Creating an internal environment of safety or danger [5:00] “I heard you talk about your weight loss as trauma, and I would like you to explain that more. From the...

Lisa interviews her personal trainer, Jess and together they discuss choosing a life of recovery from disordered eating. Topics Include: Restrictive and disordered behaviors around food The importance of telling our stories Your body being linked to your job Pandemic weight gain and feeling safe [5:10] Jess talks about early childhood in early 90s as it relates to food, eating, exercise, body imag...

Lisa sits down with group alum, Rachel to talk about childhood trauma and it’s affect on our relationship to food, eating, and our bodies. Topics Include: Sneaking and hiding food in childhood Food, eating, and body image issues going unnoticed when our body appears “normal” Food trauma Anxiety and depression [2:30] Rachel reflects on early memories she received about food, eating, and body image...

Lisa sits down with coach, Melissa K Byers to talk about what it looks like to lead while healing, as Melissa gets honest and vulnerable about her history with binging disordered eating and how she copes to this day. Topics: Bulimia Holding space and having support Dissociation Healing through somatics and restorative yoga [5:00] Melissa explains what is it means to “clean up the bloodline,” and h...

Lisa sits down with group coaching alum, and fan favorite podcast guest, Kate to discuss the role of exercise from a place of love and deep self respect, and what movement, exercise, and fitness can teach us about the human experience. Topics: Living a lifestyle of recovery Exercising not for weight loss Messy action Using exercise to stay present in your human experience [7:25] Kate describes a c...

Group coaching graduate, D, sits down with Lisa to talk about what has been like to navigate life as a highly sensitive person in a pointy world, what it means to figure out who you really are apart from your titles and roles, and coming to a place where it feels safe to live a true and authentic life. Topics: Being soft in a pointy world Abandoning your authentic self to belong Substance use Adju...

Lisa sits down with former personal training client, Personal Development Coach, Payal Mehta, and together they explore what it means to live an authentic life out of the cave, despite strong handed, cultural narratives about what, who, and how we should be. Topics Include: Cultural influence on our body image Anxiety and the physical experience of emotions Moms prioritizing themselves Defining ho...

In the most vulnerable episode yet, Lisa opens up about how she in not different than any person her to turns to her for guidance and leadership, gets specific about how and where in life she is experiencing difficulty and pain, and gives a candid account of losing her baby sister, Rebecca. High functioning anxiety and depression Grief and loss in early childhood Living in recovery Practicing non-...

Lisa sits down with her long time client, back from her personal training days, Michelle, about awakening to the human experience. Together they take a walk down memory lane reflecting on the earliest teachings of Out of the Cave, before the actual business even existed! Topics: Being a Parentified Child Feeling Objectified The Physical Manifestation of Feelings Coping with Anxiety while “Out of t...

The Out of the Cave Podcast turns one! Listen in to the recording of our first very first Live Q&A. Topics Include: Mindful Distraction vs Destructive Distraction Finding your power to create aligned habits Boundaries surrounding our own bodies and weight loss vs the opinions of others Taking responsibility for our triggers Shame as survival mechanism/trauma response [1:00] Q1 Do you ever have...