The Out of the Cave Podcast

Lisa interviews Erin, OOTC group coaching alum, an animal loving veterinarian who, through the group coaching program, has achieved significant personal growth and changes in a matter of months, which years of therapy couldn’t achieve. She also has learned to accept herself and has a community of acceptance without judgment allowing her to finally have a feeling of safety. Topics Include : Early S...

Join Lisa as she talks to Out of the Cave group coaching alum, Muna. Topics include: Muna's journey from childhood to adolescence, exploring her evolving relationship with food, body image, cultural influences, and the change in family dynamics. The conversation continues as Muna describes her experiences with disordered eating, specifically bingeing, purging, and later developing a restrictiv...

Join Lisa as she continues her conversation with Julie Markowitz, a licensed social worker and psychotherapist who specializes in treating chronic pain, as they continue to discuss Julie’s healing journey to her true self. Topics include: [02:10] trigger warnings and their place in weight loss and chronic pain relationships, the difference between taking care of yourself and avoidance, [09:17] Lis...

Join Lisa as she sits with Julie Markowitz, a licensed social worker and psychotherapist who specializes in treating chronic pain, as they discuss Julie’s healing journey to her true self. Topics include: [03:10] Julie discusses her personal journey through anxiety, disordered eating, chronic pain, and depression, [11:10] Lisa and Julie talk about the overlap between chronic pain and disordered ea...

Lisa sits down with Dr. David Wiss to talk about using nutrition as a healing modality in recovery from addiction and how he invites nuance in as he works with clients who struggle with disordered eating from a mind-body approach. Topics Include: Neurochemistry and hedonic (rewards based) eating Ultra-Processed Food Addiction Qualitative approach to nutrition [5 types of] Restriction vs Dietary Re...

In part 4 of the conversation around intentional weight loss, Lisa shares vulnerably about the nonlinear journey she is on personally. Topics Include: The balance between being intuitive and planning when it comes to food and eating Alcohol and weight loss Taking a break from the priority of weight loss PMS and body image Seeking external validation/safety while losing weight through other people...

Lisa sits down to share with you what has been dubbed the (second) most important episode of the Out of the Cave Podcast ever. Topics Include : Feeling shamed for wanting to lose weight Connection to your body as it exists presently Creating a calorie deficit and your brain feeling safe  How to set realistic expectations around weight loss [5:00] Lisa shares the definition of freedom and how freed...

Lisa sits down with Sara Baio, mom of three and former Special Education turned mindfulness instructor to talk about the life-saving power of mindfulness. Topics Include:  Parenting a child with disabilities  Mindfulness deeply defined  Practicing mindfulness in a trauma-informed way  Mindful Self-Compassion The second arrow [6:00] Sara talks about her shame and struggle about parenting her first...

Lisa sits down with Mordechai who has maintained an over 100 pound weight loss through the Gabriel Method, to talk about life after initial weight loss success. Topics Include : Being a “success” story The Gabriel Method Mindful emotional eating Dealing with cravings [3:30] Mordechai talks about going on stage to represent a weight loss success story only to get off stage and eat pastries [8:00] M...

In this solo episode, Lisa talks about her approach to her current intentional weight loss on both the emotional and physical dimension. Topics Include : Acceptance on a somatic level Embodying a sense of safety in your current body Emotional sobriety  Withdrawal  [6:00] Lisa discusses her belief system around weight loss [17:00] Lisa talks addressing emotional issues with emotional solutions and...

In this solo episode, Lisa talks about her recent weight gain and how she is meeting herself on the mental and emotional dimension before addressing weight loss on the physical level. Topics Include : Lisa’s opinion on trigger warnings + the research Weight gain Internal vs External motivation for weight loss The scale Mind-Body approach to weight loss [3:30] Lisa delivers an announcement about ch...

Lisa sits down for part two of her conversation with Alison Midollo, HHC, RYT, to talk about how reparenting, feeling feelings, and allowing all parts of herself transformed her relationship to food and eating. Topics Include: Eliminating food groups in the name of health Precontemplation phase of making change Conscious input shaping your experience Reparenting around food Discomfort vs Danger Me...

Lisa sits down with her colleague and bestie, Alison Midollo, HHC, RYT, to talk reparenting, feeling feelings, and allowing all parts of yourself. Topics Include : Avoiding big feelings Spiritual Bypassing Restraint and discipline from a place of love Unmuting the inner child  [14:00] Alison talks about the internal shift that allows her to sit with and feel her darker parts and tell the truth abo...

Lisa interviews Kasey, self-identified, normal girl from New York, and group coaching alum Kasey, about trying to find safety and validation in a body shape and size to moving to a truer embodiment of internal safety. Topics Include : Thin privilege  Feeling superior Internal vs External Validation Body Dysmorphia [7:30] Kasey reflects on how “being small” was rewarded was just the norm that was s...

Lisa sits down with 14-Week Group Coaching alum, pharmacist, and single mom by choice Erica, to talk about how trauma, grief, and loss, collided with early motherhood and the Covid19 pandemic. She shares how she unconsciously turned to food and experienced rapid weight gain coupled with shame and found Out of the Cave and was able to understand her experience and heal. Topics Include : 90s and ear...

Lisa sits down with Elyse Schunkewitz, LCSW again. This time the roles are reversed and Elyse interviews Lisa about the personal, educational, and professional experiences that have shaped the Out of the Cave Group Coaching Program and discuss how Lisa serves her clients. Topics Include: The difference between Out of the Cave and eating disorder treatment The Binge Restrict Cycle Body Image Confid...

Lisa sits down with group coaching alum and aftercare member, Jenny, to talk about how before we were able to identify “diet culture,” it was just the way we were raised and socialized and how she was able to see the light and ultimately come out of the cave.  Topics : Puberty and body image 90s diet culture trends  Emotional eating The “drug” of weight loss compliments Internal Family Systems [5:...

Lisa sits down with Out of the Cave Coach, Alé Cardinalle, MSW to talk about how practicing baby led weaning with her son and feeding her family has given her own healing journey around food and eating an ultra boost. Topics Include: Reparenting ourselves around food and eating Baby Led Weaning  The Division of Responsibility The healing power of love [3:00] Alé reflects on learning about the conc...

Lisa sits down with Eleni Agresta, MS RDN, weight inclusive, registered dietician to talk about the field of nutrition, where it’s missing the mark, and how to find a practitioner that’s right for you.  Topics Include: Childhood diet trauma The effect of restrictive dieting on the mind-body system  Fatphobia Weight vs Health [4:00] Eleni talks about her personal story regarding food, eating, body...

Lisa sits down with group coaching alum, and Marriage and Family Therapist, D, for the second time on the pod to discuss scarcity from an Internal Family Systems perspective. Topics Include: Internal Family Systems Turning toward vs turning away What it means and doesn’t mean to validate  Scarcity vs Abundance, vs “Enoughness” [5:00] D gives a brief overview of Richard Schwartz’s theory, Internal...

Lisa sits down with Lara Days, Intuitive Eating Counselor, to have a candid and nuanced conversation about Lara’s perspective on intuitive eating.     Topics: Body image issues born in the pediatrician's office The 10 principles of Intuitive eating Mythbusting common intuitive eating misconceptions The intuitive eating movement’s stance on weight loss [5:00] Lara tells the story of how she got...

Lisa sits down with Marina Yanay-Triner, a coach who uses somatic methods to help people heal the nervous system and founder of the Somashare app, to talk about the practical ways we can regulate and move through emotions. Topics Include: Somatic experiencing Internal Family Systems and parts work Shifting your nervous system into safety Transforming black and white thinking Human design [2:30] Ma...

Lisa sits down with group alum, Linda, to talk about her experience with weight and body image issues during and after pregnancy, the role grief plays in our relationship to food and eating, and the important role the experience of being inside Out of the Cave’s community has brought to her life. Topics Include: Pregnancy and postpartum affecting our relationship to food, eating, and body image Yo...

Lisa sits down with Ruthie Lindsey, speaker, author, coach, and midwife of souls to talk about her history of disordered eating and the tools she’s cultivated and utilizes to come home to herself as often as she needs.  Topics Include: Your story becoming your identity  Learning to calm your nervous system Shadow and parts work Turning toward vs turning away [5:00] Ruthie gives an overview of her...

Lisa sits down with influencer, YouTuber, and life coach, Alyse Parker to talk about her expertise on the five survival patterns and how these patterns can play a role in our relationship to food, eating, and our bodies. (Part 2 of 2) Topics Include: Conscious communication Conscious parenting  Four steps to nonviolent communication [1:00] Alyse talks about the ways in which we can get back to bas...