Katie Morell

Of Course I'm Not OK: The Podcast

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Hosted by Karen Hawkins and Katie Morell, writers & longtime friends, this podcast explores mental health, creativity, & coping with quarantine. The goal: to help people feel less alone, share stores, & create connection.

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Katie Morell

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Health

Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

56. Pop Culture Palate Cleanser (with Brianna Wellen) 13.09.2021

Oh, Listeners, you are in for such a FUN episode! Today, Karen & Katie welcome back the fabulous Brianna Wellen (also known as one of the most fun people on the planet) for an in-depth convo about what to watch and listen to right now. The trio end up talking about all-things pop culture past and present (heeelllooo 'Battle of the Network Stars'). They also discuss how to pair alcoholic bevera...

55. Not Dreaming of Labor (Day) 06.09.2021

Happy Labor Day, Listeners! Today, Karen and Katie discuss their thoughts around Labor Day, what Labor Day means in 2021, and how people can find their passions in life. Thanks for listening!

54. MINI POD: Delta Real Talk 30.08.2021

Hellloooo Listeners - we hope you are all doing well this week. In today's episode, Karen and Katie get real in how they are feeling about recent news/world events, including the current Delta spike. What ensues is a mini pod (less than 30 mins) episode that covers how they are coping with everything and their thoughts around watching/listening to shows/music that remind them of the early days of...

53. The Case Against Multitasking 23.08.2021

Get ready, Listeners, because Karen & Katie get INTO it in this episode on multitasking. The duo chat about a wide variety of topics, triggers, and tips to help others who also struggle with the issue. They talk about everything from how to set boundaries with others to help in the quest for mono-tasking to strategies they use when they realize they've been multitasking. We hope you enjoy this...

52. Cultivating Spaciousness, Teaching Dharma, & Pursing Creative Endeavors (with Prajna Sparks' co-hosts Dr. Tania Israel & Karma Yeshe Chödrön) 16.08.2021

Listeners - great news! The great Dr. Tania Israel is BAAACCCCKKKK and chatting with Karen and Katie for this week's pod. What's more: she's brought along her dear friend Karma Yeshe Chödrön to talk all about their podcast Prajna Sparks. The pair started their podcast around the same time as Karen and Katie did, so in today's podcast they discuss the creative process, the mental health benefits of...

51. Getting To The ROOT Of Our Feelings (+ A Chat About ANGER) 09.08.2021

Oooh, Listeners, you are in for a TREAT today! In this week's episode, Karen and Katie chat about how it can be challenging to excavate the WHY behind our feelings in any given moment. And then the pair go into an in-depth discussion on anger (it is JUICY!). The convo is also peppered with fun stories about Karen as a wine competition judge and Katie's recent success at manifesting a housing swap....

50. Our LIVE One-Year Anniversary Show! 02.08.2021

Woot Woot! Today's episode is the recording of our LIVE one-year anniversary show, which took place on Tuesday, July 27, 2021.  Huge thanks to everyone who joined and to everyone listening now! Karen & Katie started off the show with a general catch up and love letter to the great Simone Biles, then went into a Q&A portion of the event with the live audience, and the show ended with a...

49. The Case For Taking A Vacation Right Now 26.07.2021

Hello, Listeners! Karen & Katie are so excited today because TOMORROW (Tuesday, July 27th) is their LIVE (on Zoom) One-Year Anniversary Show! Wanna join them? Please do - just click on the link the Instagram bio for this pod (@not_ok_pod) and purchase one ticket for your household for $25. They can't wait to see you tomorrow.  On today's show, the pair chat about their feelings about the...

48. Coffee Talk & Intuition 19.07.2021

On today's episode, Karen and Katie get into a deep conversation about how quitting caffeine has helped them in many aspects of their lives. They then dovetail that topic into the topic of intuition - something that is louder for both of them since quitting coffee - and discuss the importance of listening to one's deep wise voice inside.  Resources from today's episode:  - Check out the...

47. Turning A Crowd Corner 12.07.2021

Happy Monday, Listeners, and a HUGE HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE ONE AND ONLY KAREN HAWKINS! Our brilliant co-host, Karen, is celebrating another amazing year around the sun, and we couldn't be happier that she was born.  This week, Karen & Katie discuss their feelings on turning, what they call, "a crowd corner." As the world opens up, they are finding themselves more and more OK with socializi...

46. Big Emotions 05.07.2021

Happy Monday, Listeners! This week, Karen and Katie are talking about how BIG EMOTIONS can creep into our minds when we least expect them and how to accept them and allow them to move through our bodies. Katie talks about a rental car meltdown she recently experienced (looking at you, Hotwire.com!), and Karen shares how framing situations as temporary often helps her calm down when feelings get he...

45. PRIDE 28.06.2021

Happy PRIDE, Everyone!  In today's episode, Karen and Katie chat about Pride weekend and the importance of the worldwide festivities every June. They also talk about the concept of pride in ourselves, and being proud for who we are at at whatever stage of life we find ourselves in.  BONUS: Karen & Katie will be hosting a LIVE SHOW to mark this podcast's one year anniversary on Tuesda...

44. Aging 21.06.2021

Hello Listeners and thanks for tuning into this week's installment of Of Course I'm Not OK! Today, Karen & Katie chat about aging. They discuss Katie's recent 40th birthday - with all of it's ups and, well, not so great moments - and talk about how aging is actually a wonderful thing that they both feel grateful for (well, most of the time).  Have a good week!

43. Reunions & Caffeine Withdrawal 14.06.2021

Welcome back, Listeners! We are so glad you're here. In today's episode, Karen & Katie chat about their recent reunions with family and how they feel about easing back into socializing. They then go deep into the emotional, social, physical, and societal implications of drinking caffeine and also quitting it.  This episode is a ton of fun - hope you enjoy! Resources:  - Check out Ell...

42. Living A Life Of Yes With Saya Hillman 24.05.2021

Get ready for an epic episode! This week, Karen and Katie welcome Saya (pronounced Sigh-A) Hillman, a.k.a. 'The Accessible Oprah,' for a far-reaching and very real conversation about living what Saya calls 'A Life Of Yes.' As founder and CEO of Mac & Cheese Productions, a Chicago-based lifestyle business that creates events (and many other things) for its clients, Saya explains how getting fir...

41. MINI POD: Daydreaming As A Manifestation Tool 17.05.2021

Welcome to our first MINI POD, Listeners! In today's 15-minute episode, Karen & Katie chat about how daydreaming is a form of manifestation. They encourage everyone to be open to the energy of dreaming as a self-care practice, and to welcome any ideas and feelings that come up.  Enjoy & thank you for listening! Resources:  - Check out Anna Peterson's art at Amejko Artistry: https...

40. Emotional Pie Charts, Vacation Anxiety, & Reopening Feels 10.05.2021

Happy Mid-May, Listeners! in today's episode, Karen & Katie chat about a variety of topics, starting with their new practice of texting pie charts of their emotions to each other. The pair highly recommends others do the same (listeners, send us your pie charts!), and talk about the mental health benefits of the exercise. They then talk a bit about the anxiety they feel about going on vacation...

39. Languishing 03.05.2021

Welcome to today's episode on languishing, inspired by the viral piece by psychologist Adam Grant in The New York Times!  Karen & Katie GET INTO IT when talking about the concept of languishing, which Grant refers to as the "neglected middle child of mental health" - basically the feeling that isn't exactly depression but isn't, as he says, "flourishing," either. The pair discuss how comm...

38. Erotica & Creativity with Rachel Kramer Bussel 26.04.2021

What a treat! In today's episode, Karen & Katie welcome the amazing Rachel Kramer Bussel, a wildly creative and kind person who is also the editor of the long-running Best Women's Erotica Of The Year anthologies. The trio cover a TON of topics, including erotica, if Rachel ever gets sick of writing/editing sex topics(!!), talking dogs, jigsaw puzzles, mental health, YouTube stars, and upcoming boo...

37. Coming in HOT for Season 4 19.04.2021

Welcome to this week's therapy session with Karen & Kate! It is also the first episode of Season 4 - woot woot! On today's show, the duo talk about how they are feeling about the newest vaccine news, what the ethics are around talking to your employer about the vaccine, and then go deep into a therapy session. Topics covered in the session include how to stay in your lane and not involve yours...

36. Radical Imagination For The Aftertimes 12.04.2021

Happy Vaccination Week! In today's episode, Karen & Katie chat about how they both got their vaccines this week, their feelings around going back into social situations (from two-person coffee dates to 500-person weddings), and both agree that the so-called 'aftertimes' are going to be filled with awkwardness.  How can any convo go beyond the 60-min Zoom limit?  How do we end dinner...

35. Pop Culture Brain Candy (with Brianna Wellen) 05.04.2021

Today's episode is SO MUCH FUN! Karen & Katie decide to add a little alcohol to the mix as they welcome Brianna Wellen, Chicago Reader's culture editor (and all around fabulous human), to talk about the best escapism TV shows and movies right now. OMG the list is incredible (see below for links to everything talked about).  The trio covers topics far beyond pop culture, and get deep into...

34. Restaurants Right Now (with Food People author & photographer Kristen Loken) 29.03.2021

For today's episode, Karen & Katie chat with Kristen Loken, author and photographer of the new book Food People Are The Best People! The trio discuss how restaurants are handling COVID, feedback from chefs, things that are working in the industry, and things that are super hard at the moment. Kristen talks about her gorgeous book (OMG it is A-MAZING), and offers super helpful advice on how people...

33. Easing Back Into Life As We Knew It 22.03.2021

As news of increased vaccine availability hits the airwaves, Karen & Katie are feeling a lot of feelings.  Today, the pair talks about their considerations (and anxieties) around easing back into socializing. What does it mean? Where will they draw the line? How will they talk to people they haven't seen in more than a year?  From actionable tips on how to set boundaries to living by...

32. Pandemic Grief & the COVID Anniversary (with writer Hope Edelman) 15.03.2021

Has anyone else been feeling a bit low lately? If so, the reason may surprise you. According to writer and grief expert Hope Edelman, many people experience a "dip in functioning" around the one-year anniversary of a trauma or loss. This week marks one year since COVID descended on the U.S., and in today's episode, Karen & Katie chat with Hope about the concept of Pandemic Grief.  The conversation...

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