Katie Morell

Of Course I'm Not OK: The Podcast

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Hosted by Karen Hawkins and Katie Morell, writers & longtime friends, this podcast explores mental health, creativity, & coping with quarantine. The goal: to help people feel less alone, share stores, & create connection.

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Katie Morell

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Health

Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

81. Religion 11.04.2022

Happy Monday, Listeners! On this week's show, Karen and Katie chat all about religion. They discuss finding out about their friends' religions long after they've been close to them, about how religion showed up in their lives growing up and much more. Karen takes us on a journey that involves prayer and spontaneous baptisms while Katie explains her Mom's "musical chairs" approach to religion. The...

80. Practicing Empathy & Grace 04.04.2022

Welcome back, Listeners! In today's episode, Karen and Katie discuss the importance of empathy when approaching/talking to other people, and the fact that you never know what others are going through. As Neil deGrasse Tyson says, "We are, each of us, a little universe." Karen discusses what her life has been like lately, Katie gets into how empathy has presented itself in her marriage and the pair...

79. (MINI POD) Teen Vogue Q&A 14.03.2022

Happy Mid-March, Listeners! In today's episode, Karen and Katie ask each other impromptu questions from a Teen Vogue article. We learn about their most embarrassing moments (let's just say sex and sweating are involved in very a few unfortunate scenarios!) and other fabulous facts like their favorite podcasts and more.  We hope you enjoy - thanks for listening! Resources from this week's epis...

78. Living Life On Your Schedule 07.03.2022

Happy Almost-International Women's Day, Listeners! In this week's show, Karen and Katie give a much-deserved shout-out to the 10th anniversary of Karen's creation, Rebellious Magazine For Women ! They talk about how amazing Rebellious is, Katie explains that she's had a horrible mental health day and how talking to Karen helped fish her out of the gutter, and one of Karen's cats tries to climb the...

77. Reasons To Smile 28.02.2022

Happy Monday, Listeners, and welcome to an episode all about positivity! On today's show, Karen and Katie chat about the importance of focusing on the things that are bringing lightness into our lives. Even when things around us may not be going to plan (and the news is rough), the pair discuss how noticing the things that bring joy can really lighten the load.  Thanks for listening - we hope...

76. (MINI POD) "Life Is Not A Race" 21.02.2022

Happy Monday, Listeners, and thanks for tuning in! In this week's mini pod, Karen and Katie chat about how problematic a sense of urgency is in our work and personal lives. They also talk about how "life is not a race" and how taking things a bit slower can be better for ourselves and others.  We hope you enjoy this episode - thanks for listening!

75. Galentines Day & Heart-Shaped Salami with Ginger Buddha 14.02.2022

OhMyGooooddddnnneeeesss, FOLKS! (insert excited screaming here) Today's show is one of our best ever because we have on the one, the only, the incomparable....GINGER BUDDHA (a.k.a Tori Ulrich) on the show!  Karen, Katie, and Tori get into a lively conversation about female friendship - a convo that reveals itself to be one of our most deep and revealing yet. It is one you will not want to mis...

74. Embracing Your Uniqueness 07.02.2022

Happy Monday, Listeners! On this week's show, Karen and Katie chat about how important it is to embrace what makes each of us unique. Toss aside social conditioning, crappy comments from past loves/friends/colleagues, and think about what makes you YOU! Let your freak flag fly, Friends!  In addition to discussing this soul-nourishing topic, the pair also talk about some Hollywood heartthrobs...

73. Ideas For Exhaustion 31.01.2022

Good morning, Listeners, and welcome to SEASON 7! This week, Karen and Katie are discussing exhaustion, and how common of a feeling it is right now. The pair discuss an amazing Harvard Business Review piece about what to do when in survival mode - get ready to take notes! They also chat about how bears can teach us a lot about resting, and Karen brings back the 90s with a mini-rendition of Lovefoo...

72. (MINI POD) Making Time For Art 24.01.2022

Happy Monday, Listeners! On today's mini pod, Karen and Katie chat about how great it feels to make time for art, whatever that means to you. Even if it is five minutes in a day where you do the thing that makes you feel good, it is worth it! Thanks for listening - enjoy! xo

71. Reimagining Dualistic Thinking with Dr. Tania Israel 17.01.2022

The fabulous Dr. Tania Israel is BAAACCCKK!!! On this week's show, Karen and Katie get into a really exciting conversation with Dr. Israel about dualistic thinking (otherwise known as 'right/wrong' thinking), and how critical and nuanced ways of thinking/seeing the world can help us all.  The trio also picks up last week's conversation about bidets, Katie discusses her wedding ring melodrama...

70. Rest 10.01.2022

Listeners you are in for a TREAT today! On this week's show, Karen & Katie discuss the importance of rest in the middle of our New Year's resolution-crazed time. They also discuss a WIDE variety of other topics, such as their holiday breaks, the beauty of puttering around the house, how keeping a travel journal even when you are home is an excellent idea, and, of course, bidets (you will want...

69. (MINI POD) Reclaiming Past Joys 03.01.2022

Happy 2022, Listeners! We hope you are all feeling great. On today's show, Karen and Katie talk about how it can be difficult to access joy at times (unless, as Katie - queen of metaphors - says, "if you are shitting rainbows, keep on shitting"), and when it is, to think back to the things that brought you joy in the past. These could be things like books and movies/TV shows. If you liked them in...

68. (MINI POD) 2021 Time Capsule 27.12.2021

Happy Almost-New Year, Listeners! On this week's show, Karen and Katie discuss the things and experiences that they'd put in a 2021 time capsule. The conversation ranges from light to dark and everything in between.  While you listen, play along! What are the top 5 things you'd keep/want to remember from this year?  Thanks and enjoy! Resource from today's episode:  - Please be sure...

67. (MINI POD) Celebrating Solstice Fabulousness 20.12.2021

Happy Winter Solstice, Listeners! For today, mini-pod episode, Karen and Katie chat about incredible solstice traditions. The pair also discuss stargazing, finding hair from the 1800s in a cedar chest (you'll have to listen to find out!), and Marie Kondo.  We hope you all have a fabulous week! Resources from today's show:  - Check out the International Dark Sky Parks to see if there is o...

66. Following Your Bliss 13.12.2021

Happy Mid-December, Listeners! In this week's episode, Karen and Katie discuss how we can all follow our bliss when it comes to dreaming big (even if we aren't able to go anywhere at the moment). The pair also talks about vision boarding, waiting in line for concerts, and Karen as a MAJOR mic drop moment when she asks, "Post-COVID, WHO ARE WE NOW?"  Thanks for listening - enjoy! Resources fro...

65. Navigating The Fire 06.12.2021

Welcome back, Listeners! In today's show, Karen & Katie chat about how to deal when the universe seems to continue piling on not-so-ideal scenarios into our lives. The duo goes deep into talking about strategies that help them mentally and physically, and explore dark dumpster metaphors. Additionally, they chat about Katie's experience with the COVID booster and Karen's blissful reunion with E...

64. Rage Revisited 22.11.2021

Happy Thanksgiving, Listeners! This week, Karen and Katie get into a deep discussion about everything from travel (Katie once lived in Nepal, while Karen once lived in Cambodia!) to the VERY problematic history of Thanksgiving to Katie's reasoning for wanting to have a funeral for coffee. Sadly, Katie's microphone didn't work properly for this episode (something we didn't notice until the editing...

63. Zooming Out & Maintenance 15.11.2021

Happy Monday, Gorgeous Listeners! In this week's episode, Karen & Katie chat about how healthy it can be to "zoom out" on our lives. This is a useful exercise to help us see what goals we have for the future and what kind life we want to live. It can also be a fabulous activity when thinking back on our past and celebrating all of the things we've accomplished. Karen makes the smart observatio...

62. Social Fuel Tanks 08.11.2021

In this week's episode, Karen and Katie chat about the concept of social fuel tanks (i.e. what fills up our energy and makes us feel connected to humanity). Turns out, the things that fill each of us up are very different. Some find fuel in spending time with loved ones, while others fuel up listening to their favorite musical artists or watching a show that makes them feel connected to the wider...

61. Perspective Shifts As Life Shifts 01.11.2021

Hello, Listeners and welcome to the launch of SEASON 6!! In today's episode, Karen and Katie discuss how shifting our perspectives on life events can really make us feel differently (and often in the best possible ways). The pair then gets into a wide reaching convo about everything from cats shitting to Agent Orange to leaves falling off the trees as winter descends upon us. Trust us, though, thi...

60. Community 25.10.2021

What does it mean to cultivate community? How are we all thinking about community as we enter our second COVID winter? In this week's episode, Karen & Katie chat about how being in community positively impacts their lives, and how there are a myriad of ways to think about the topic. The show also starts off with Katie's story about babysitting a cat named Guillermo.  Thanks for listening,...

59. Quelling Negative Self-Talk with G.L.A.D 18.10.2021

Hello, Listeners! Karen & Katie have a great episode for you this week, one about the acronym G.L.A.D. Developed by mindfulness expert Donald Altman, the acronym is designed to help reduce ruminating thoughts that can lead to negative self-talk.  G = Gratitude  L = Learning  A = Achievement D = Delight The pair talk about how to use this tool and how it can help each one of us l...

58. Stopping The World 11.10.2021

Welcome back, Listeners! After a few weeks off, this week Karen and Katie discuss the concept of 'stopping the world' for major events in our lives. While most of the time those events tend to be negative, the pair makes the case for taking a stopping-the-world level of downtime whenever we need it. Karen makes the astute declaration that it is often a choice to keep going when we know we need to...

57. Time Abundance & Time Scarcity 20.09.2021

Inspired by a recent tweet by Adam Grant, this week's episode centers around time abundance and time scarcity. What are these things, you ask?? Karen & Katie dive into the research-backed amount of time that is required to feel a general sense of well-being and the amount of time that adds stress to our lives.  Enjoy and thanks for listening! Resources for this episode:  - Check out...

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