Jessica and Ellie Michaels

Gifted Kid, Messy Adult

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Jessica and Ellie Michaels are two former gifted kids that became messy adults. The married couple discuss their lives as two neurodivergent people and how being neurodivergent has impacted their lives. In addition to discussing their lives, the duo educates listeners about what neurodiversity is and some of the intricacies that go only with it. Occasional interviews with experts and those living under the neurodiversity banner will give listeners more insight into this world to help under the umbrella that is neurodiversity. New episodes of Gifted Kid, Messy Adult drop on Wednesdays.

Author

Jessica and Ellie Michaels

Category

Health

Podcast website

coachjessicamichaels.com

Latest episode

Sep 22, 2025

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Episodes

Ableism 2 - this time its Internalized 22.09.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the pitfalls of internalized ableism, as well as the concept of 'nothing for us without us.' Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com

ableism 25.08.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the many forms ableism can take, and how to avoid falling into the mental traps it can set. Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com

The Gang of 19 20.08.2025

In which Jess and Ellie (mostly Jess) tell the story of and discuss the group of pioneering disability rights activists known as "The Gang of 19." Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com

Masked too hard 06.08.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the trouble you can get in when you mask a little too well... Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com

Gifted Kid Gone Bad 30.07.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss how one's gifted talents could be used... for evil! Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com

Weaponized autistic empathy 16.07.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss how the super-powered empathy of neurodivergent brains can be turned against themselves. Are you A Helper™? Are you The Pacifier™? Do you put the comfort of others before your own as a way to avoid having to deal with your own emotions? Then this episode may be for you! Check out www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com for neurodiversity coaching and consulting! https://www.t...

The Dark Side of Gifted Programs 01.07.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss an article by Sophie Boudreau from The Huffington Post that discusses some of the darker aspects of the gifted program as a whole. article:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gifted-and-talented-education-program-90s_n_683de77de4b095a1384139b9 Hey! Would you like to help keep your favorite married neurodivergent queer couple alive? Then please donate to our GoFundMe or a...

UnHinged 16.06.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss some recent accessibility features added to the dating app Hinge. Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com

Happy Pride! 04.06.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the overlap of neurodiversity and queerness. Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com Happy Pride to all our 2SLGBTQIA+ siblings!

How limiting something doesn't ruin it 28.05.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss their recent outing to the Botanic Gardens and how setting deliberate limits on themselves actually improved the experience. Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com

Fun with friends 21.05.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss some of the challenges and benefits of doing things with friends. even if you're not good at them. Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com

Autism Registry 21.05.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the horrifying reality of the US government's autism registry. Note: some of the topics discussed in this episode may be upsetting to anyone with a shred of empathy or an understanding of history. Schedule coaching and speaking www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com contact us GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com

F U RFK 23.04.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss and debunk the ableist and bigoted claims made by RFK jr.

ADHD Apps 16.04.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the trend of apps designed to help ADHD people. CoachJessicaMichaels.com for coaching other (NSFW) podcast about Dungeon Crawler Carl https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-achievement/id1788133023

Vaccines and Autism 09.04.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the link between vaccines and autism. hint: There isn't one

Hyperfixation special with Dan 03.04.2025

In which Jess and Ellie interview Dan Jones of Aspie World on his special interests and what's been giving him joy lately. https://www.youtube.com/@TheAspieWorld LINK IN BIO tinytaw.com Instagram instagram.com/theaspieworld TikTok tiktok.com/@theaspieworld Facebook facebook.com/theaspieworld X twitter.com/theaspieworld LinkedIn linkedin.com/company/theaspieworld SnapChat snapchat.com/add/theaspiew...

ADHD meds with Cameron Little 26.03.2025

In Which Jess and Ellie discuss ADHD meds with comedian and writer Cameron Little Cameron Little is sometimes a stand-up comedian, occasionally a writer, a few times has been accused of being an improvisor, and often confused about what they were about to do when walking into a room.  https://boxd.it/2BMYV https://www.instagram.com/clistervisionservices?igsh=Zzh4bGoxbDlpZWI3&utm_source=qr...

Burnout With Carole Jean Whittington 19.03.2025

In which Jess and Ellie interview Carole Jean Whittington Chief Well-Being Officer & Lead Researcher of Whittington Well Being https://whittingtonwellbeing.com/ Author of "Unleashing Sustainable Energy" Want to find out your stress level? Take the Spicy Pepper 🌶️ QUIZ and get next steps based on your results. https://whittingtonwellbeing.com/

Gifted Kid Messy Adult The Episode 12.03.2025

In Which Jess and Ellie discuss ways to cope with being a former gifted kid who is now just a bit of a messy adult. Email us your ways of celebrating your little achievements to GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com CoachJessicaMichaels.com For ADHD / Autism coaching

Misophonia and why its THE WORST 05.03.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss how misophonia can impact the life of not just the neurodivergent person who experiences it, but their family and friends too. Do you agree? Do you deal with misophonia yourself? Let us know by emailing GiftedKidMessyAdult@gmail.com And check out www. CoachJessicaMichaels.com

The Steps of Friendship 26.02.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss how to judge if you're friends with someone or not. This episode was inspired by this post https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFLWBvLxiKi/?igsh=MTBnM3FrOGs5cGMwZw== from the brilliant Morgan Foley.

Sleep Lore Fail 19.02.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss yet another technique that failed to help one of them fall asleep.

Neurodivergent Parents 12.02.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the hesitation that some neurodivergent people have about becoming parents. Reddit thread mentioned: https://www.reddit.com/r/AutismInWomen/comments/1imxgxn/not_wanting_children_due_to_being_autistic/

What we don't see 29.01.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the way in which our neurodivergence can just make some things vanish. If you want to support our show https://www.patreon.com/TheNeurodiverseWorkplace If you want to support our medical costs https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jess-and-ellies-fight-for-health The post discussed https://www.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/1ibqr8z/what_are_some_things_you_just_dont_see/

Autistic Excitement 22.01.2025

In which Jess and Ellie discuss the pertinent question: Does being autistic mean that when you're excited you sieg heil? CoachJessicaMichaels.com Sign up for a free consultation to see if neurodiversity coaching is for you.

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