Chavonne A. McClay, MSW, LCSW (she/her) and Jenn Jackson, MPH, RDN, LD (she/her)
Embodiment for the Rest of Us
Jenn (she/her) and Chavonne (she/her) are a HAES®-aligned dietitian and therapist duo who are passionate about dismantling the intersectional barriers to embodiment. In this show, they interview professionals and those with lived experience alike to learn how they are affecting radical change and how we can all make this world a safer place for those living in larger bodies and in marginalized spaces.
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Author
Chavonne A. McClay, MSW, LCSW (she/her) and Jenn Jackson, MPH, RDN, LD (she/her)
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Latest episode
Apr 17, 2025
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Episodes
Season 4 Wrap-Up Episode: Words of the Year, Renewed Unmasking, and Season 5 Coming in 2026 - EFTROU: S4Ep12 17.04.2025 31:22
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 12: Season 4 Wrap-Up Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) wrap up season 4 by reviewing their words of the year for 2024 and 2025, renewed invitations for unmasking while recording, re-commitments to anti-oppression, and season 5 coming in 2026! Content Warning: Mention of the multiple genocides occurring globally Trigger Warnings: None for...
Deep Dive: Relating Across Difference, Murmuration as Metaphor, and a Sacred Unmasking with Nikki Haggett - EFTROU: S4, Ep11 20.02.2025 1:37:30
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 11: Nikki Haggett Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Nikki Haggett (they/she) in a deep dive about relating across difference, murmuration as metaphor, and a sacred unmasking. Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, discussion of medical fatphobia, discussion of the multiple genocides occurring globally,discussion of fascism, me...
A Clinically Fat Ass and Passion Projects, Part 2 with Dr. Rachel Fox - EFTROU: S4, Ep10 19.12.2024 1:42:25
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 10: Dr. Rachel Fox, PhD Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Dr. Rachel Fox, PhD (she/her) about her embodiment journey! Specifically we talk about having a clinically fat ass and passion projects (aka the dissertation Doctor Fox just defended last Tuesday!!!) Dr. Rachel Fox is an Assistant Professor of Interdisciplinary Studies a...
Fat Embodiment as in Living a Whole Ass Fat Life, Part 1 with Rachel Fox - EFTROU: S4, Ep9 05.12.2024 1:32:52
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 9: Rachel Fox Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Rachel Fox (she/her) about her embodiment journey Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, discussion of medical fatphobia, discussion of the multiple genocides occurring globally, discussion of intentional weight loss (including GLP-1 drugs) Trigger Warnings: This episode will...
Deep Dive Part 3: The Political is Personal is Professional with Lindley Ashline - EFTROU: S4, Ep8 28.11.2024 51:13
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 8: Third and Final Deep Dive (this season hehe) with Lindley Ashline Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Lindley Ashline (she/her) for the final of a three-part deep dive about embodiment Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of current politics Trigger Warnings: None for this episode Th...
Deep Dive Part 2: Intertwining Stories, Parties Not Lectures, and Blanket Forts as Embodiment with Lindley Ashline - EFTROU: S4, Ep7 18.07.2024 1:19:49
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 7: Deep Dive with Lindley Ashline Jenn (she/they), Chavonne (she/her), and Mayaneli (she/her) interviewed Lindley Ashline (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment as partnership with our bodies. Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, Discussion of medical fatphobia Trigger Warnings: 1:14:57: Jenn mentions a fatness category that might be...
Deep Dive Part 1: Capitalist Mythology, the Comfort of Power, and Depth + Clarity as a Container for Embodiment with Lindley Ashline - EFTROU: S4, Ep6 04.07.2024 2:15:22
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 6: Deep Dive with Lindley Ashline Jenn (she/they), Chavonne (she/her), and Mayaneli (she/her) interviewed Lindley Ashline (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment as partnership with our bodies. Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, Discussion of medical fatphobia Trigger Warnings: 44:33: Lindley mentions death threats The captions fo...
Deep Dive Part 1: Attending and Attuning to the Body, Unconscious Contracts with the Systems that Affect Us, and Loving Accountability with Michelle Phillips - EFTROU: S4, Ep5 06.06.2024 1:09:04
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 5: Deep Dive with Michelle Phillips Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Michelle Phillips (they/them/we) for a deep dive about attending and attuning to the body, unconscious contracts with the systems that affect us, and loving accountability. Content Warning: discussion of intentional weight loss, discussion of multiple genocid...
Embodying Self-Care Beyond Bath Bombs, Disability Access and Community, and the Isolation of Embodiment with Imani Barbarin - EFTROU: S4, Ep4 09.05.2024 1:28:28
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 4: Imani Barbarin Chavonne (she/her), Jenn (she/they), and Maya (she/her) interviewed Imani (she/her/hers) about her embodiment journey. Imani Barbarin is a disability rights and inclusion activist and speaker who uses her voice and social media platforms to create conversations engaging the disability community. Born with cerebral palsy, Iman...
Energy is Precious, Limitations as Embodiment, and Unlearning Categorization with Niyera Hewlett - EFTROU: S4, Ep3 04.04.2024 1:28:40
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 3: Niyera Hewlett Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Niyera (they/them) about their embodiment journey. Niyera (they/them) is a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor in New Mexico and North Carolina who supervises counseling students, social work students, and licensed associates. They founded a queer and neurodivergent affirm...
Deep Dive: Identity, Sex Positive Families, and Kiddos as Embodiment Teachers with Tiana Dodson - EFTROU: S4, E2 07.03.2024 1:51:48
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 2: Deep Dive with Tiana Dodson Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Tiana Dodson (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment and children. Content Warning: discussion of sexuality Trigger Warnings: 1:45:30: Tiana uses “insane” in a way that is ableist The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofu...
Season 4 Intro Episode: Acknowledging Disability, Slowing Down, and Continuing with Intention - EFTROU: S4, Ep1 01.02.2024 45:46
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 1: Season 4 Intro Episode Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) introduce Season 4! Content Warning: None in this episode Trigger Warnings: None in this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-1-season-4-intro/#captions A few highlights: 2:02: Jenn and Chavonne sh...
Season 3 Wrap-Up Episode - EFTROU: S3Ep13 06.11.2023 26:06
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 13: Wrap Up Episode Jenn (she/her) and Chavonne (she/her) wrap up Season 3! Content Warning: None in this episode Trigger Warnings: None in this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-13-season-3-wrap-up-episode/#captions A few highlights: 2:13: Jenn and Chavonne...
The “Rest” in the Rest of Us, Being Our Whole Human Selves with Clients, and the Laughter Between Hard Topics with Lisa Daughters and Fawn McCool - EFTROU: S3, Ep12 12.10.2023 2:07:10
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 12: Lisa Daughters and Fawn McCool Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Lisa Daughters (she/her) and Fawn McCool (she/her) about their embodiment journeys. Lisa Daughters (she/her) is a HAES-aligned fat-positive, LGBTQIA+ allied, social justice informed Expressive Arts Therapist. She works with fat folx, LGBTQIA+ community, grief/l...
Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria, Nuances of the Pandemic, and Safe Space with Friends with Fawn McCool and Lisa Daughters - EFTROU: S3, Ep11 28.09.2023 1:43:59
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 11: Fawn McCool and Lisa Daughters Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Fawn McCool (she/her) and Lisa Daughters (she/her) about their embodiment journeys. Fawn McCool (she/her pronouns), is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with a private practice based in Portland, Oregon. Her therapeutic approach is warm, nurturing, colla...
Social Justice, Equitable Care, and Navigating a Field That is Still Unlearning with Whitney Trotter - EFTROU: S3, Ep10 14.09.2023 1:28:50
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 10: Whitney Trotter Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Whitney Trotter (she/her) about their embodiment journey. Whitney Trotter (she/her) is dually licensed as a Registered Dietitian, Nurse, and yoga instructor and is currently working on her doctorate degree to become a psychiatric nurse practitioner. Whitney has over ten years...
Placefinding and Placeholding as the Marginalized Among the Marginalized with Mikey Mercedes - EFTROU: S3, Ep9 31.08.2023 2:14:20
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 9: Mikey Mercedes Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Mikey Mercedes (she/they) about their embodiment journey. Marquisele (Mikey) Mercedes (she/they) is a fat liberationist writer, creator, educator, and doctoral student from the Bronx, New York. As a Presidential Fellow at the Brown University School of Public Health, she works...
Body Hierarchies, Disability, and the Ongoing Pandemic with Marquisele Mercedes - EFTROU: S3, Ep8 17.08.2023 1:40:22
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 8: Marquisele Mercedes Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Marquisele Mercedes (she/they) about their embodiment journey. Marquisele (Mikey) Mercedes (she/they) is a fat liberationist writer, creator, educator, and doctoral student from the Bronx, New York. As a Presidential Fellow at the Brown University School of Public Health,...
Divesting from Urgency Culture, Embodied Authenticity, and Coming Home to the Truth with Wednesdae Reim Ifrach - EFTROU: S3, Ep7 03.08.2023 1:30:09
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 7: Wednesdae Reim Ifrach Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Wednesdae Reim Ifrach (they/them) about their embodiment journey. Wednesdae is a trans/non-binary art therapist, fat activist and artist whose work focuses on body justice, intersectional social justice and eating disorder treatment equity access. They also co-own and...
Liminal Spaces, Collective Trauma and Care, and Workshopping Our Own Humanity with Neathery Falchuk - EFTROU: S3, Ep6 20.07.2023 1:48:12
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 6: Neathery Falchuk Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Neathery Falchuk (they/them) about their embodiment journey. Neathery Falchuk (they/them) is a queer, trans and non-binary, white Latinx, fat, and neurodivergent therapist, licensed clinical social worker and supervisor, certified group psychotherapist, certified Body Trust®...
Thinking Beyond Textbooks, Thriving with Diabetes, and Inclusive Travel with Esther Tambe - EFTROU: S3, Ep5 07.07.2023 1:13:09
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 5: Esther Tambe Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Esther Tambe (she/her) about her embodiment journey. Esther Tambe is a Registered Dietitian and Certified Diabetes Care and Education Specialist based in Long Island, NY. She is the founder of Esther Tambe Nutrition, LLC. She received her master’s degree in Nutrition with a concent...
Community Building, Body Trust, and Podcasting with Aaron Flores - EFTROU: S3, Ep4 06.07.2023 1:44:10
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 4: Aaron Flores Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Aaron Flores (he/him) about his embodiment journey. Aaron Flores is a registered dietitian nutritionist and Certified Body Trust® provider. With over 10 years of experience, Aaron has worked with eating disorders in a variety of settings over his career, including the VA Healthca...
Deep Dive: Reclaiming the Black Body with Alishia McCullough - EFTROU: S3, Ep3 08.06.2023 1:52:05
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 3: Alishia McCullough Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Alishia McCullough (she/her) about her somatic embodiment journey of reclaiming the Black body. Alishia McCullough (she/her) is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Therapist, Somatic Healer, Writer, and Culture Shifter supporting BIPOC folks to holistically heal their relatio...
Deep Dive: Stepping Stones that Support Neurodivergent Embodiment with Kymber Stephenson - EFTROU: S3, Ep2 25.05.2023 1:46:17
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 2: Kymber Stephenson Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Kymber Stephenson (she/her) about re-embodiment, the stepping stones that support neurodivergent embodiment, and what’s next in her embodiment journey. Kymber Stephenson (she/her) is a registered dietitian nutritionist living & working in Fort Collins, Colorado. As the Clini...
Season 3 Intro Episode: Embodiment Evolutions, Life Updates, and Deep Dives - EFTROU: S3, Ep1 11.05.2023 1:20:03
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 1: Intro Episode Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) discuss what’s coming up for them, and for you, in Season 3! Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health, discussion of death of a family member Trigger Warnings: 39:50: Jenn discusses tr...
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