Chavonne A. McClay, MSW, LCSW (she/her) and Jenn Jackson, MPH, RDN, LD (she/her)

Embodiment for the Rest of Us

Health EN ↓ 48 episodes

Jenn (she/her) and Chavonne (she/her) are a HAES®-aligned dietitian and therapist duo who are passionate about dismantling the intersectional barriers to embodiment. In this show, they interview professionals and those with lived experience alike to learn how they are affecting radical change and how we can all make this world a safer place for those living in larger bodies and in marginalized spaces.

Be sure to visit the podcast's website and support the creator: embodimentftrou.podbean.com

Author

Chavonne A. McClay, MSW, LCSW (she/her) and Jenn Jackson, MPH, RDN, LD (she/her)

Category

Health

Podcast website

embodimentftrou.podbean.com

Latest episode

Apr 17, 2025

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Episodes

Season 2 Wrap-Up: Looking Back on Embodiment and The Rest of Us, and Forward to Deep Dives in Season 3 - EFTROU: S2, Ep12 20.10.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 12: Season 2 Wrap-Up   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) review season 2–all they learned and unlearned–and plans for season 3! See you in 2023!!   Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of fatphobia, mention of eugenics   Trigger Warnings: 42:23: Jenn misgenders Michelle Philli...

Embodied Pregnancy, Travel, and Podcasting while Plus Size with Jen McLellan - EFTROU: S2, Ep11 06.10.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 10: Jen McLellan   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Jen McLellan (she/her) about her embodiment journey.   Jen McLellan, CBE, is a published author, founder of Plus Size Birth , and host of the Plus Mommy Podcast . She helps people navigate the world of plus size pregnancy, shares tips for embracing your body, and laughs her way th...

Embodiment for Real People in Real Life with Kymber Stephenson - EFTROU: S2, Ep10 22.09.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 10: Kymber Stephenson   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Kymber Stephenson (she/her) about her embodiment journey.   Kymber Stephenson is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist living and working in Colorado. Her experience began with a love of food which led her to pursue a degree in Culinary Arts from Johnson & Wales University. As...

Creating Community and Fat Acceptance with Dr. Joy Cox - EFTROU: S2, Ep9 08.09.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 9: Dr. Joy Cox   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Dr. Joy Cox (she/her) about her embodiment journey.   Dr. Joy Cox is a body justice advocate using her skill set in research and leadership to foster social change through the promotion of fat acceptance and diversity and inclusion. With 39 years living as a fat, Black cisgendered w...

Systemic Racism and Dehumanizing Diet Culture with Shelby Gordon - EFTROU: S2, Ep8 25.08.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 8: Shelby Gordon August 25, 2022   Shelby is a retired world-champion, professional dieter who broke the chains of restriction, excessive exercise, and body hatred by embracing Body Trust®. She now works with helping professionals and organizations to ignite and elevate their awareness of the intersection of fusion of systemic racism and dehumanizi...

Bibliotherapy (Reading) as Embodiment with Jennifer Radke - EFTROU: S2, Ep7 11.08.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 7: Jennifer Radke   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Jenn Radke (she/her) about her embodiment journey.    Jennifer Radke is the host of the podcast, Fat Girl Book Club, and a podcasting coach. Her body image journey started with sneaking cookie dough out of the deep freezer at the age of eight, moved through a bunch of different d...

Grief, Liberation, and Embodiment with Michelle Phillips - EFTROU: S2, Ep6 28.07.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 6: Michelle Phillips   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Michelle Phillips (they/them/we) about their embodiment journey.    Michelle Phillips, The Liberation Strategist, is a mental health and spiritual care practitioner with over 15 years of experience in transformational and holistic care. They have been on a journey of walking w...

Relational Healing and Nourishment with Chelsea Levy - EFTROU: S2, Ep5 30.06.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 5: Chelsea Levy   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Chelsea Levy (she/her) about her embodiment journey. This is part 2, the encore, of our first-ever two-part episode!   Chelsea Levy (she/her) is a Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor and registered dietitian nutritionist. She earned her Master of Science from Hunter College and co...

Nourishment and Nuance with Chelsea Levy - EFTROU: S2, Ep4 16.06.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 4: Chelsea Levy   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Chelsea Levy (she/her) about her embodiment journey. This is part 1 of our first-ever two-part episode!   Chelsea Levy (she/her) is a Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor and registered dietitian nutritionist. She earned her Master of Science from Hunter College and completed her d...

Pleasure, Sexuality, and Embodiment with Molly Adler - EFTROU: S2, Ep3 02.06.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 3: Molly Adler   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed  Molly Adler(she/her) about her embodiment journey.    Molly is a Certified Sex Therapist with the American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors and Therapists (AASECT). Her practice Sex Therapy New Mexico is based in Albuquerque, New Mexico on Tiwa land. She works with a...

Fat Liberation and Photography with Lindley Ashline - EFTROU: S2, Ep2 19.05.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 2: Lindley Ashline   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Lindley Ashline (she/her) about her embodiment journey.    Lindley Ashline creates photographs that celebrate the unique beauty of bodies that fall outside conventional "beauty" standards. She fights weight stigma by giving fat people a safe place to explore how their bodies loo...

Season 2 Intro Episode: The Interviewers Become the Interviewees - EFTROU: S2, Ep1 05.05.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 1: Season 2 Intro   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) discuss season 2! They answer some of the questions they asked their incredible interviewees during the upcoming season.   Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of racism, discussion of internalized ableism and fatphobia, mention of mental health st...

Season 1 Wrap-Up: Reflections and Looking Forward to Season 2 - EFTROU: S1, Ep10 17.03.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 10: Season 1 Wrap-Up   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) review season 1–all they learned and unlearned and plans for season 2!   Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of classism, discussion of ableism, mention of mental health struggles, mention of trauma and complex trauma, mention of healthism   Tr...

Denise Friedman and the Trauma of Embodiment - EFTROU: S1, Ep9 01.03.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 9: Denise Friedman   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Denise Friedman (she/her) about their embodiment journey.    Denise Friedman, LCSW (she/her) is a lifelong rad fatty and clinical social worker. She was born a New Yorker and has been welcomed by New Mexico. Her practice focuses on general mental health as well as trauma work, p...

Jess Kennard and Belonging to Ourselves - EFTROU: S1, Ep8 10.02.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 8: Jess Kennard   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Jess Kennard (they/she) about their embodiment journey. To learn more about their work, check out their website, www.jesskennard.com .   Jess Kennard MA, LMHC, ATR-P is a clinical art therapist and eco-arts facilitator working on land belonging to the Tiwa speaking people in what i...

Sheila Ciminera and Harm Reduction - EFTROU: S1, Ep7 27.01.2022

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 7: Sheila Ciminera   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Sheila Ciminera (she/her) about her embodiment journey. To learn more about her work, check out her website, bearwitnesstherapy.com .    Sheila Ciminera, LCSW, is a social worker and owner of To Bear Witness Therapy.  Over the past 17 years, she has had the privilege of being ca...

Tiana Dodson and Fat Freedom - EFTROU: S1, Ep6 11.11.2021

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 6: Tiana Dodson   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Tiana Dodson (she/her) about her embodiment journey.   Tiana Dodson is a fat, Body Liberation Coach and Facilitator who’s out to destroy the belief that you have to be skinny to be happy and healthy, loveable, or worthy. Through her work with the Fat Freedom programs, she guides pe...

Nicola Haggett‘s Embodiment Journey - EFTROU: S1, Ep5 28.10.2021

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 5: Nicola Haggett   Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Nicola Haggett (she/her) about her embodiment journey. To learn more about her work, follow her on instagram under the handle @nicolahaggett or find her on her website, www.nicolahaggett.com .    Nicola Haggett is a Body Trust Coach, Mentor, & Facilitator. She helps folks to unle...

Our First Guest Alishia McCullough!!! - EFTROU: S1, Ep4 14.10.2021

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 4: Alishia McCullough   It’s the first interview! Woohoo! Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Alishia McCullough (she/her) about her embodiment journey. To learn more about her work, feel free to connect with her on social media under the handle @blackandembodied .   Alishia McCullough is a millennial Licensed Clinical Mental Health T...

Embodiment + The Rest of Us - EFTROU: S1, Ep3 30.09.2021

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 3: Embodiment + The Rest of Us   In this episode, Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) discuss their definitions of “embodiment” and “the rest of us”.   Content Warning: discussion of privilege, mention of ableism   The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-1/season-1-episode-3-embodiment-rest-of-us/...

Co-Host Embodiment Journeys - EFTROU: S1, Ep2 16.09.2021

Embodiment for the Rest of Us:  Season 1 , Episode 2: Co-Host Embodiment Journeys   In this episode, Jenn (she/her) and Chavonne (she/her) discuss their personal journeys of embodiment.   Content Warning: discussion of privilege, mention of eating disorders and disordered eating, mention of mental health struggles, mention of unintentional weight loss, mention of substance use, mention of neurodiv...

Co-Host Interviews - EFTROU: S1, Ep1 26.08.2021

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 1: Co-Host Interviews   In this episode, Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interview one another in order to introduce themselves to the audience!   Content Warning: discussion of privilege, mention of eating disorders, mention of mental health concerns   The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-...

EFTROU Trailer: Season 1 24.06.2021

Embodiment for the Rest of Us Trailer: Season 1   Embodiment for the Rest of Us premieres August 2021! Meet your hosts, Chavonne McClay (she/her) and Jenn Jackson (she/her), and learn what EFTROU will be all about.   Music: “Wheel of Karma” by Jason Shaw   The captions for this episode can be found at: https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-1/season-1-trailer/#captions   Captions   [Music Pla...

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