Drew & Garden System
A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder
There’s never a dull moment for hosts, Drew and Garden System, who are a couple that have both been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. While they are navigating their healing journey, they continue to manage full time careers, raise four teenagers and a house full of pets. Not only do they aim to speak to people who have lived experience with DID and their supporters, but also therapists and anyone who wants to learn more. The podcast talks about Dissociative Identity Disorder in a way that someone who knows nothing about DID will be able to understand, and at the same time is desi...
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Drew & Garden System
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
Engaging Multiple Personalities: An Interview with Dr. David Yeung 07.07.2026 2:03:09
Drew & Garden System have an in-depth discussion on the treatment of Dissociative Identity Disorder with Dr. David Yeung and his editor Lyle Weinstein. Take care of yourselves while watching, as Dr. David Yeung discusses difficult topics surrounding trauma. You can purchase Dr. David Yeung's books, Engaging Multiple Personalities Volumes 1-4 by clicking on our Amazon Affiliate links: Vol...
Authentically Living with Multiplicity: An Interview with Skylar Lyralen Kaye, author of Bachelorx 23.06.2026 1:52:21
Drew & Garden System have an open and candid conversation with Skye on all things multiplicity/plurality, gender identity, unmasking, and living openly with Dissociative Identity Disorder and plurality. Skye's memoir, Bachelorx, can be found here for purchase through our affiliate link: https://amzn.to/4uTTkVI Thank you to our sponsors: Healing Selves Therapeutics Healing My Parts Follow...
Healing is a Mess! An Interview with Julia by mes: Artist & Survivor Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder 09.06.2026 1:23:37
Drew & Garden System hang out with Julia by mes to have conversations about intergenerational trauma as a grandchild of war in Germany, the complicated mess of healing, career changes, and organizing in-person meetups in Ottawa, Canada! Thank you to our sponsors: Yvonne Fall LPC - https://www.yvonnefalllpc.com/ Healing My Parts - https://www.healingmyparts.org/ Follow us on Instagram: @acouple...
My Name Means Fire: An Interview with Atash Yaghmaian LCSW-R 26.05.2026 1:10:42
Drew & Garden System discuss the effects of traumas such as war and childhood abuse with Atash Yaghmaian LCSW-R, who also lives with dissociative identity disorder. She is the author of the book, My Name Means Fire, where she shares her story of growing up in Iran. You can purchase a copy of her book through our Amazon affiliate link here: https://amzn.to/4rIQ5yP Thank you to our sponsors: Th...
Finding Our Bees: An Interview with Jaime Pollack, founder of An Infinite Mind 12.05.2026 1:14:37
Drew & Garden System chat with Jaime Pollack, founder of An Infinite Mind, to discuss her discovery of multiplicity, getting a diagnosis of dissociative identity disorder, and her incredible healing journey that led to the creation of An Infinite Mind and the formation of the Healing Together conference. Jaime Pollack lives in Central Florida where she works as a district Pre-K special educat...
Creating Affirming Care & Support: An Interview with Ryder Fox 28.04.2026 1:43:10
Drew & Garden System sit down with Ryder Fox to clarify the complexities of affirming care and non-carceral support of folx living with DID/multiplicity that are navigating their healing journey. Ryder Fox, MS (they/them) is a trauma-informed wellness coach, educator, and consultant with nearly 30 years of experience supporting vulnerable populations. They work at the intersection of practitio...
A Brilliant Adaptation: An Interview with Sally Maslansky LMFT 14.04.2026 1:53:41
Drew & Garden System sit down with Sally Maslansky LMFT to discuss her healing journey with dissociative identity disorder and her new memoir, A Brilliant Adaptation. Sally provides a unique look at what living with DID and trauma recovery can look like from an integrated perspective. Sally Maslansky is a psychotherapist and author whose lived experience with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DI...
Yoga, Somatics, & Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Amy Beckler LCSW RYT-200hr 31.03.2026 57:17
Drew & Garden System have an informative discussion with Amy Beckler LCSW on the benefits of yoga and somatic exercises for people living with complex trauma, particularly those experiencing dissociative identities. Wheel of Tolerance - https://livethechange.se/index.php/blog/the-wheel-of-tolerance Dissociation Made Simple - https://amzn.to/4uZYmB0 Thank to our sponsors: Healing My Parts - htt...
An Apparently Normal Person: An Interview with Bonnie Armstrong 17.03.2026 1:24:42
Drew & Garden System discuss the healing journey from childhood abuse and dissociative identity disorder with Bonnie Armstrong, the author of An Apparently Normal Person. Bonnie's story is unique in that she worked in child welfare and advocacy without realizing she, too, was a survivor of childhood abuse. Her medical struggles helped her uncover the truth about her past. Bonnie R. Armstr...
Healing From Cult Torture: An Interview with Cheryl Rainfield 03.03.2026 1:07:03
Drew & Garden System have an in depth discussion about surviving and healing from cult torture and abuse with Cheryl Rainfield, a survivor living with poly-fragmented dissociative identities. who used creative writing as a tool for healing and to shed light on the truth on cults and human trafficking. Award-winning author Cheryl Rainfield is a nonbinary lesbian who writes novels for teens, dra...
You Can Heal: Jade Miller, Peer Support Specialist 17.02.2026 48:19
Drew & Garden System share powerful healing stories from Jade Miller, a peer support specialist. Jade Miller is a multiple, writer, and peer support worker who helps others living with dissociative experiences find community, language, and grounding. Through her coaching at Peer Support for Multiples and her upcoming Safe Harbor Peer Respite Center , she's building spaces where complexi...
Old Before Their Time: An Interview with Dr, Frank W. Putnam 03.02.2026 1:22:21
Welcome to Season 5! Dr. Frank W. Putnam shares the results from a 35 year long study, the Female Growth & Development Study, which he co-founded with the late Penelope K Trickett, PhD, on the effects of childhood maltreatment, particularly childhood sexual abuse. Frank W. Putnam, MD, is a child and adolescent psychiatrist and an internationally recognized expert on the health effects of child...
The Price of the Podcast: The Risk of Public Disclosure & Addressing Misconceptions of Dissociative Identity Disorder 14.10.2025 40:09
Drew & Garden System share a deep and personal story of how disclosure and having this podcast affected their personal lives. They discuss the consequences of fear and stigma that people with dissociative identity disorder face. They address system management, switching, and littles and how their systems work together to maintain employment and lead successful lives. Thank you to our sponsors...
Supporting the Challenges of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder 30.09.2025 53:31
An unscripted interview: Drew & Garden System discuss supporting the challenges of living with dissociative identity disorder. Topics include disclosure, boundaries, and ideas for those who are supporting loved ones with DID. Thank you to our sponsors: Healing Selves Therapeutics To Life! Counseling Follow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on...
Understanding Recovery & 12 Steps for Dissociative Identities: An Interview with Dr. Jamie+ Marich 16.09.2025 1:02:28
Drew & Garden System have an illuminating conversation with Dr. Jamie+ Marich on recovery, the 12 step program, and dissociative identity disorder. They touch on important topics such as sponsors, adaptations and language, and considerations needed for recovery. Resources: https://jamiemarich.substack.com/p/does-aa-work Thank you to our sponsors: The Institute for Creative Mindfulness & H...
Ketamine Assisted Therapy & Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Melissas Parker, LMHC 02.09.2025 1:16:24
Drew & Garden System discuss all things related to ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, other psychedelics, and dissociative identity disorder with Melissas Parker, LMHC. Thank you to our sponsors: (sponsorship of this episode does not indicate an endorsement of KAP or psychedelic therapies.) Healing Selves Therapeutics - https://www.healingselvestherapeuticspllc.com/ Yvonne Fall, LPC -https://www...
Queering EMDR Therapy & Understanding Dissociation in the LGBTQIA+ Community: An Interview with Rev. Karla Fleshman LCSW, MDiv 19.08.2025 1:11:55
Drew & Garden System have an open-hearted discussion with Rev. Karla Fleshman on her contributions to Queering EMDR Therapy, an upcoming book edited by Roshni Chabra LMFT and with a forward by Dr. Jamie Marich. They dive into Rev. Karla's battle with cancer, spirituality, how gender identity can contribute to dissociative experiences, and how one can find healing and community. Preorder Q...
Differential Diagnosis: Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Dr. Mike Lloyd 05.08.2025 1:12:01
Drew & Garden System engage Dr. Mike Lloyd of the CTAD clinic in the UK in an educational conversation about recognizing, diagnosing, and treating dissociative identity disorder. Thank you to our episode sponsors: Healing Selves Therapeutics https://www.healingselvestherapeuticspllc.com/ & To Life! Counseling https://tolifecounseling.com/ Visit our website acoupleofmultiples.com to learn...
Exploring Expressive Arts for Dissociative Disorders: An Interview with Alix Amar, LCSW 22.07.2025 44:50
Drew and Garden System have an artistic discussion with Alix Amar, LCSW about various express arts activities and how they can be beneficial for survivors of trauma particularly those with dissociative identity disorder. Specific expressive artistic activities are explained and resources for trainings and continued exercises are provided throughout the episode. Alix Amar, LCSW, one of our sponsor&...
Recovering From Eating Disorders When You Have DID: An Interview with Monika Ostroff LICSW, CEDS-S 08.07.2025 1:27:55
Drew & Garden System interview Monika Ostroff LICSW, CEDS-S (creator and host of Healing My Parts Podcast) and talk about treatment for eating disorders when a client also has dissociative identity disorder. In depth topics include navigating different selves, their eating behaviors and working on internal communication. They discuss the impact of trauma on the development of eating disorders,...
Ritual Abuse & Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Dr. Alison Miller 24.06.2025 1:20:00
Drew & Garden System have an insightful and informative conversation with Dr. Alison Miller, the author of Demystifying Mind Control & Ritual Abuse: A Manual for Therapists. Dr. Alison Miller shares important signs that therapists should be aware of when assessing for ritual abuse in their clients with DID and provides education on overcoming the programming of mind control. Thank you to o...
Finding the Right Care: Inpatient Treatment For Dissociative Identity Disorder, Interview with Donna Earle LPC, CCTP 10.06.2025 1:31:41
Drew & Garden System discuss in-patient/hospitalization care for people living with dissociative identity disorder with Donna Earle, LPC, CCPT. They cover important topics such as helpful tips for hospital staff, the differences between the different levels of care, and identifying potential treatment centers. Please note that the hospitals and treatment centers listed are NOT recommended or...
Using EMDR to Heal When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Amy Wagner, LMFT/LMHC 27.05.2025 1:01:13
Drew & Garden System have a candid conversation with Amy Wagner, LMFT/LMHC! Amy Wagner is an EMDRIA approved consultant and they all discuss the many dos and don'ts of using EMDR when clients live with dissociative identity disorder. They discuss the eight phases, resourcing skills, and what to do when clients dissociate or switch during session. You won't want to miss this amazing d...
Learn to Recognize Dissociation with Dorinna Ruh, LCSW 13.05.2025 1:42:27
Did you know that dissociative disorders are almost as common as mood disorders? Drew & Garden System chat with Dorinna Ruh, LCSW and cover valuable information about prevalence rates, how to recognize dissociation in yourself or in your client, ways to assess for a dissociative disorder, and a few EMDR tips as well! If you're working with complex trauma, then you're working with dis...
Part III The Hot Topic: Sex & Intimacy When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder 11.03.2025 34:24
Note: We highly encourage you to listen to Parts I & II before listening to this episode, as we continue to honor our truth and authenticity, which may feel more intense than the previous episodes on this subject. We would like for you to be able to determine if this episode will be something you want to listen to or pass on, so here are some details of what we share in this season 3 finale. T...
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