Drew & Garden System
A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity Disorder
There’s never a dull moment for hosts, Drew and Garden System, who are a couple that have both been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. While they are navigating their healing journey, they continue to manage full time careers, raise four teenagers and a house full of pets. Not only do they aim to speak to people who have lived experience with DID and their supporters, but also therapists and anyone who wants to learn more. The podcast talks about Dissociative Identity Disorder in a way that someone who knows nothing about DID will be able to understand, and at the same time is desi...
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
When Your Parent Has Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Garden System's Adult Children 25.02.2025 51:43
Drew & Garden System have a candid conversation with Garden System's two oldest children, both adults now, about what it was like growing up with a parent that has dissociative identity disorder. Please visit acoupleofmultiples.com to see all of our current offerings! Our amazing sponsors for Season 3: The Institute for Creative Mindfulness , one of the largest EMDR Therapy training prog...
Being a Parent When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder 11.02.2025 54:21
Drew & Garden System give an off script interview of each other and share personal stories of what it is like to be a parent when you have dissociative identity disorder. They each dive into topics such as how different selves show up as a parent, interact with the children, and how they navigate the challenges that having DID brings to the role of parenthood. They also touch on the challenges...
Internal Relationships within Dissociative Identity Disorder 28.01.2025 39:06
Drew and Garden System talk about how in the beginning a system feels separated from each other, even feeling like enemies. There often is difficulty in listening to selves, because it is hard to learn and believe what parts hold and about trauma that occurred. They talk about how they developed relationships within their systems, navigating selves with different values, beliefs and behaviors. Dre...
Part II The Hot Topic: Sex & Intimacy When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder 14.01.2025 33:57
Drew & Garden System go more in depth about sex & intimacy and how it affects one's romantic relationship. They talk about sexual alters, the challenges littles bring, and how they have navigated personal experiences in the moment. They wrap up discussing shame and how they came into acceptance of their sexuality. Obvious trigger warnings apply. Interested in attending the System Mapp...
Finding Community When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Jaime Pollack, founder of An Infinite Mind 31.12.2024 58:40
Drew & Garden System have a friendly conversation with Jaime Pollack, founder of An Infinite Mind and the Healing Together conference for those with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and mental health clinicians. They talk about the power of community and how finding others with DID have positively impacted their healing journey. Jaime shares pertinent information about the Healing Tog...
The Hot Topic: Sex & Intimacy When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder Part I 17.12.2024 34:54
Drew & Garden System have an honest talk about sex and intimacy and how it affects one's romantic relationship. They talk about how their different selves show up in the relationship, the challenges of engaging in sex, and strategies to manage the triggers that inevitably come up. This episode definitely contains TMI and colorful language and the trigger warning should be obvious here, pe...
The Therapeutic Relationship & Clients with DID: An Interview with Kelly Caniglia, LCMHC/LMHC 03.12.2024 1:36:18
In this incredible interview episode, Drew & Garden System dive into the therapeutic relationship with Kelly Caniglia, a Somatically focused Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in North Carolina, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in FL, a Clinical supervisor in both states as well as Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Kelly specializes in working with Dissociative Identity Disorder...
So, Your Spouse Has DID? An Interview with Gianu System & Jonathan 19.11.2024 1:31:52
Drew & Garden System have a candid conversation about relationships when one partner has dissociative identity disorder. Gianu System & Jonathan help provide hope through their personal stories as they share how they overcame challenges navigating their successful long-term relationship. Jenna (@gianusystem) and Jonathan (@splendid_supporter) were married for over fifteen years before they...
Multiples Squared: DID Couples An Intimate Interview with LS & Melanie Scarboro 05.11.2024 1:29:47
True to this season's theme, Drew & Garden System have an intimate conversation with another couple of multiples, LS & Melanie Scarboro, about relationships and dissociative identity disorder. Both LS and Melanie live with DID and they share personal stories of how they navigate the daily challenges that having DID brings to maintaining an intimate relationship as well as all the amaz...
Multiples in Love: Dissociative Identity Disorder 22.10.2024 42:32
Drew & Garden System, a couple both living with dissociative identity disorder, share personal, intimate stories about their relationship including the many benefits and the unique challenges that arise when two multiples are in a relationship with each other. They also cover important tools, such as system mapping, emotional regulation & co-regulation, to help improve awareness of self be...
Attachment, Relationships, DID, Oh My! 08.10.2024 41:17
Drew & Garden System, a married couple who both have Dissociative Identity Disorder, welcome listeners to Season 3 which focuses on relationships and DID. Many people with Dissociative Identity Disorder were unable to form a secure attachment to a caregiver when they were a child, often due to trauma, neglect or abuse. Drew & Garden System, share personal examples of attachment wounds, and...
Shame, Denial, & Accepting All of We with Dissociative Identity Disorder 03.09.2024 33:36
In this season 2 finale, Drew & Garden System share personal stories of experiencing shame, denial of being a multiple, and coming to acceptance of having dissociative identity disorder. Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community called Hearts Multiplied, for those living with a dissociative disorder, their su...
Switching, Co-consciousness, & Coming Together with Dissociative Identity Disorder 27.08.2024 38:43
Drew & Garden System share personal stories of how they brought all of their selves together to aid in the ability to switch on purpose and access all of the strengths and skills that each self holds. They talk about co-consciousness and ways that they practiced this skill amongst their selves. Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more...
Resolving Internal Conflicts & Discovering Strengths Within a Dissociative System 20.08.2024 35:39
Drew & Garden System share personal stories of how they resolved internal conflicts, using a concept called trust by proxy, how they determined what was best for the whole system, how to identify and use the strengths of each self within the system, and some of the ways to keep up with all the daily little things when you live with Dissociative Identity Disorder. Please visit https://acoupleof...
You Lied to Me About God: An Interview with Dr. Jamie+ Marich 06.08.2024 1:03:13
Drew & Garden System have an important conversation with Dr. Jamie+ Marich about her upcoming memoir, You Lied to Me About God . You can pre-order a copy now anywhere books are sold! They discuss the impact of religious trauma and spiritual abuse and how it can contribute to dissociation. They each share personal stories about their journeys of coming out as people with dissociative systems an...
Building Bonds & Creating Trust Between Selves in Dissociative Systems 30.07.2024 44:37
Drew & Garden System, a couple living with Dissociative Identity Disorder, share personal stories of how they helped all of their selves develop trust and compassion for each other. Building bonds between all selves helps bring about internal cooperation and internal peace. They also dive into more detail about their fictive selves and how those developed within their systems. This includes th...
What You Really Need to Know About Eating Disorders and Dissociative Identities: An Interview with Annie Goldsmith, RD, LDN 23.07.2024 1:43:21
Drew & Garden System get real with Annie Goldsmith, sharing personal stories and uncovering the root causes of eating disorder behaviors and how they might show up in those living with dissociative identity disorder. Annie Goldsmith, RD, LDN holds an undergraduate degree from the University of Rochester in Brain and Cognitive Sciences and attended Winthrop University for her graduate coursewor...
Applying IFS with Dissociative Identities: An Interview with Ocean, a Certified IFS Licensed Therapist 16.07.2024 1:14:06
Drew & Garden System have a lively discussion with Ocean about the use of Internal Family Systems, particularly with Dissociative Identity Disorder. Come learn all about the special considerations clinicians need to keep in mind and implement when they choose to use IFS as an intervention with their DID clients. Ocean is a highly educated and Certified Internal Family Systems (IFS) licensed th...
Intersections of Neurodivergence: DID, Autism, & ADHD, an Interview with Katie Keech, MFT 09.07.2024 1:28:40
Drew & Garden System interview Katie Keech, MFT on the intersections of neurodivergence with DID, autism, and ADHD. Katie Keech, MFT, whose pronouns are They/Them, has over twenty years of professional experience in both community mental health and private practice. They have managed emerging adult community mental health programs and forensic programs. In the late 1990’s they were diagnosed w...
Shhh! Are You Listening to All of Yous? Enhancing Internal Communication Through Listening with Dissociative Identity Disorder 02.07.2024 41:33
Drew & Garden System talk about listening (ironic we know!) instead of just trying to talk to parts. Remember that it’s not just “talking” you’re listening for, because not all parts communicate with words or by talking. Sometimes communication is thoughts we notice or pictures we see internally. Being quiet can feel uncomfortable because one often becomes aware of memories and feelings that p...
Playing with Sand Tray Therapy When You Have DID: An Interview with Dr. Elisa Niles Thorne 25.06.2024 49:21
Drew & Garden System have a playful conversation about the benefits of sand tray therapy for those living with dissociative disorders with Dr. Elisa Niles Thorne (Dr, E). Topics include how sand tray can enhance internal communication between dissociative selves, how it can help nonverbal selves communicate, and how it can be used to process complex experiences. Whether you are a therapist or...
The Healing Power of Dance & Movement - an interview with Alicia Leigh Hann 18.06.2024 41:32
Drew & Garden System welcome Alicia Leigh Hann to discuss the healing power of dance & movement when one is a multiple! Alicia is a dance educator, performer, and choreographer based out of Columbus Ohio. She fell in love with dance because of its endless possibilities for creative physical expression. Movement has been an integral part of her personal recovery from a trauma induced eating...
Is That WE in There? Early Signs of Internal Communication within Dissociative Identity Disorder 11.06.2024 33:33
Drew & Garden System kick off Season 2 by sharing all the first signs of internal communication that happened within their systems. Listen to their comical, personal stories of how their selves made themselves known. This episode includes topics of suicidal ideation, self-harm, and eating disorders. Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list and to find out all about our priv...
From Toxicity to Authenticity with Dissociative Identity Disorder 07.05.2024 42:03
In this legendary season one finale episode, Drew & Garden System discuss boundaries with friends, family, and within the therapeutic relationship. They talk about how they created a chosen community of friends and family and what is like to unmask through disclosure, including the thought processes around deciding if and when to disclose a diagnosis of Dissociative Identity Disorder. Referen...
Even More Multiple Cool Ways to Heal with Dissociative Identity Disorder 30.04.2024 37:14
Drew & Garden System share their experiences with various healing modalities for the trauma that led to dissociative identity disorder, including: music & music therapy, drumming, sound healing, yoga, meditation & visualization, EFT Tapping, anger wall, and the quantum energy wellness bed. Articles on Sound & Music: https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_music_bonds_us_t...
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