Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes

Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

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On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

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Episode 163: Mitsuru Tabata (Zeni Geva, Acid Mothers Temple) 21.10.2026

Since the original release of Total Castration in 1991 (on Public Bath) long-time Zeni Geva guitarist Mitsuru Tabata has been busy. In fact, maybe Tabata is just busy all the time—what with the numerous ongoing projects the Japanese musician is involved with right now. Following on from the Record Store Day vinyl release of Superunit: Maximum Implosion earlier this year (bringing together the coll...

Episode 162: Anagnorisis 14.10.2026

Ten years is a long time in music and it’s a long time in life. The last time Louisville, Kentucky, black-metal group Anagnorisis released a record it was with 2016’s Peripeteia. A lot has happened between that time and the imminent release of that record’s follow up, Caregriever . Perhaps most impactful over that time (certainly in the case of the latest record) was the process of Zachary Kerr’s...

Episode 161: Maciej Werk (Soundedit, Hedone) 07.10.2026

This month, from the 23rd-27th of October, Łódź, Poland will host the 18th edition of Soundedit—an international festival “dedicated entirely to the art and technology of music production”. Combining workshops, pro-audio events, live shows and Q&As, this year’s event features appearances from Marc Almond (Soft Cell), producer Howie B (UK, Björk), Hugh Cornwell (The Stranglers) and Wolfgang Flür (K...

Episode 160: Moni Jitchell 30.09.2026

Moni Jitchell is drummer and vocalist Grant Donaldson and guitarist David Scott and the music they make is a noisy, panic-inducing rock or post-hardcore that wouldn’t feel much out of place on 3 One G, amongst bands like The Locust, Arab On Radar and Guck (see WCN episode 94). The 23rd of October will see the duo release their latest album AWARE and by golly you can bet your bottom dollar that tha...

Episode 159: Percy Howard and Richard Kazanjian (nûs) 24.09.2026

In the mid 1990s Sacramento four-piece nûs released two albums of cinematic alternative rock (both notably being produced by Bill Laswell) in relatively quick succession, before just as quickly disappearing into the ether—from whence their music sounds like it came from. Almost 30 years later founding members Percy Howard, Stephen Sullivan and Richard Kazanjian (plus Stephen’s son Sean on drums) m...

Episode 158: David Caress 16.09.2026

If the name Dallas Seger is familiar to you, it might be through his role as owner/luthier of custom-guitar specialists Seger Guitars, based in Bangor Maine. You might also know Dallas from his rock-and-metal-straddling project Manic Abraxas (and you can check out my interview with Dallas and Justin Hamm discussing that project on episode 35 of this podcast ). Azure , the debut album under Dallas’...

Episode 157: Jack Natz (EXP, Cop Shoot Cop) 10.09.2026

EXP is the latest musical project of underground, rock n’ roll veteran Jack Natz (alongside his wife, visual artist and musician A.E. Csaky). Together, with a host of guests, friends and former collaborators (like Swans and former Cop Shoot Cop percussionist Phil Puleo) the pair last week released their debut, self-titled record on Reptilian Records. Recorded at the legendary BC Studio in Gowanus,...

Episode 156: -ii- [Two Eyes] 02.09.2026

This Friday, the 4th of September is World Sexual Health Day, a day that French electro-industrial act -ii- have consciously chosen to unveil their latest record Ars Erotica : Volume I —a record in which they, as they put it “are adopting a "sexpo" approach, viewing sexuality as a form of positive expression and an enriching experience, while liberating bodies and minds from the dictates of patria...

Episode 155: mr.phylzzz 26.08.2026

Chicago, Illinois’ mr.phylzzz (that’s pronounced Mr. Flies, by the way) don’t play by your rules… or their rules, or anyone else’s rules really. Created ten years ago by guitarist and vocalist (and former comedian) Clinton Jacob as an outlet for wacky and humorous musical tomfoolery, mr.phylzzz will do as mr.phylzzz does. With Danny Sein on drums completing the lineup, mr.phylzzz release their lat...

Episode 154: Michael “Kidd Funkadelic” Hampton 21.08.2026

While the surreal, psychedelic funk-rock world of George Clinton and his main musical outlets Parliament and Funkadelic isn’t exactly a story of the DIY underground it’s certainly one outside of the mainstream—with an influence that stretches everywhere from hip-hop to Dutch blackened post-punk (see Amsterdam’s Ainsoph covering “Maggot Brain”). Guitarist Michael “Kidd Funkadelic” Hampton found him...

Episode 153: Greg Wilkinson (Deathgrave) 12.08.2026

When not operating Oakland, California’s Earhammer Studio (and working with bands like Necrot, High On Fire and Ulthar), Greg Wilkinson makes his own extreme music. These days Wilkinson’s multiple active bands include death-metal unit Static Abyss, legendary gore enthusiasts Autopsy (who Wilkinson joined the ranks of in recent years) and punk-grind-metal concoction Deathgrave—whose latest record H...

Episode 152: Mark Solotroff (Anatomy of Habit) 05.08.2026

The musical world of Chicago’s Mark Solotroff goes back to the mid 80s with power-electronics group Intrinsic Action, includes the controlled chaos of BLOODYMINDED and finds us in the present moment with the doom-infused post-punk five-piece Anatomy of Habit releasing their fifth album Paired Sentinels—with Solotroff, as always, at the helm. It’s been a long and winding path for Anatomy of Habit s...

Episode 151: Dumb Waiter 29.07.2026

It would be hard to think of a more suitable name for the latest record by Richmond, Virginian four-piece Dumb Waiter. Having formed back in 2012, Change (out this Friday) sees the band not only introduce vocals for the first time, but completely re-design their whole sound. Having spent several releases honing a complex meld of proggy, avant-garde metallic rock, the band decided they were done wi...

Episode 150: Glenn Morrow 16.07.2026

Although Glenn Morrow recently retired from running Bar/Non Records (the record label he founded 40 years ago), he’s still closely connected to the label. In fact Bar/Non Records, as well as celebrating its 40th anniversary, is about to release Morrow’s latest set of songs from his band Glenn Morrow’s Cry For Help, the playfully titled Our Final Album Vol. 1. So let’s dive into the history of the...

Episode 149: Martin Bisi 07.07.2026

American recording engineer Martin Bisi started BC Studio in Gowanus, Brooklyn, New York City (originally as OAO Studio) with Bill Laswell and Brian Eno 45 years ago. Having worked with names like Afrika Bambaataa and Lydia Lunch, he was involved in the nascent days of both hip-hop and no wave. As an engineer and producer Martin is greatly respected and having worked extensively with underground l...

Episode 148: Tim Gotch (Sleepbomb) 30.06.2026

The first time Tim Gotch joined me (alongside bandmate Charlie Hernandez on episode 51 of Whatever Comes Next) Sleepbomb were poised to release The Sleeping Dead —a musical companion to George Romero’s Night of the Living Dead . Eighteen months later, with the cinematic-doom band, having released their follow-up record, Songs in the Key of Conan (Koolarrow Records) , an alternative score to the 19...

Episode 147: Dave Ramirez (Hypnolovewheel) 24.06.2026

The initial lifespan of New York City indie-rock group Hypnolovewheel lasted only from 1986 to 1993, but in that relatively short time the band released five albums—starting with 1988’s Turn! Turn! Turn! and culminating with Altered States in 1993. While the band’s fine body of work has been hard to get hold of in the digital age, the band recently got the rights back to their catalogue and now, h...

Episode 146 hackedepicciotto 19.06.2026

West Berliner Alexander Hacke and American-born Danielle de Picciotto both have no shortage of their own artistic and musical credits stretching back to the 1980s. While their collaborative paths have intersected over several different projects over the years, hackedepicciotto is the most enduring—with the duo’s 10th album LICHTUNG to be released on the 10th of July via Mute. A beautiful, otherwor...

Episode 145: Joe Cannon (Resurrectionists) 17.06.2026

Double EP (out this Friday on Seismic Wave Entertainment) brings together last year’s Anytime You Make A Place For Them and the previously-unreleased Ok, Let’s Play King (both on vinyl for the first time)—two EPs that showcase the distinctive charms of Milwaukee rock four-piece Resurrectionists. Joe Cannon has been leading the helm since the band’s formation in 2018 and we’re going to go through t...

Episode 144: TOOMS 12.06.2026

The members of Limerick, Ireland’s sludge metal band TOOMS have been making music together since before TOOMS was even a thing. Having started out together first as Gaia, bassist Anto Donnellan, drummer Kieran Grace and guitarist/vocalist Alex Hölzinger decided in 2017 the time had come to take the music into a new dimension and so TOOMS was born. Following their debut full-length album The Orb Of...

Episode 143: Bob Bert (Lydia Lunch, Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore) 09.06.2026

Bob Bert has been involved in too many projects over the years to squeeze them all into a 40minute interview, but by golly I’ve done my best. We are first of all here to discuss Beach Bongo Bloodbath , his solo debut, out this Friday on Bar/None Records (in the year of the label’s 40th anniversary). On top of discussing this quirky delight of a record we find the time to talk about Lydia Lunch, Jo...

Episode 142: Johnny Iguana (The Claudettes) 04.06.2026

Chicago Illinois’ The Claudettes have been through various transformations since their instrumental, two-piece origins of 2013’s Infernal Piano Plot…HATCHED! The most recent evolution has been the introduction of powerhouse singer Rachel Williams, who came in after the band parted ways with previous lead singer Berit Ulseth. Throughout every permutation punk-raised pianist Johnny Iguana has been l...

Episode 141: Caterwaul 2026 01.06.2026

Minneapolis, Minnesota’s Caterwaul celebrates its fifth year this coming weekend (the event being held from Friday 5th - Sunday 7th of June) and co-founder Conan Neutron is here to tell us all about it. What’s more, he’s brought a friend—Rye Coalition vocalist Ralph Cuseglio (whose band headline the Saturday. The event features no shortage of fan favourites from the alternative rock (aaaaagh I hat...

Episode 140: Nathan Carson (Point Line Plane) 28.05.2026

Twenty-plus years is a long break to have in almost any relationship. But while Nathan Carson and Joshua Blanchard (together known as Point Line Plane) originally called time on the musical project they formed together at the turn of the century back in 2005, the end of Point Line Plane did not mean the end of the friendship. Just as well, because when the stars aligned and SKiN GRAFT Records prop...

Episode 139: Marian Sarine (DEAFKIDS) 26.05.2026

Born of D-beat roots and punk spirit, Brazilian duo DEAFKIDS have been fusing noise, percussive rhythms and electronics for over 15 years. This Friday sees the release of the duo’s latest record CICATRIZES DO FUTURO on the great Neurot Recordings (the band’s first non-collaborative full-length release since 2019’s Metaprogramação ) Percussionist and bassist Marian Sarine joins me to discuss the du...

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