Sezer and Julie
The Systemic Way
The Systemic Way Podcast is a therapy and mental health podcast featuring conversations with experts, practitioners, researchers, and people with lived experience from the worlds of systemic psychotherapy, family therapy, psychology, social work, and community practice. Hosted by Sezer and Julie, two systemic and family psychotherapists, the podcast explores mental health, relationships, trauma, resilience, social justice, culture, and change. Through engaging discussions on theory, practice, and real-world experiences, listeners gain a deeper understanding of how systemic and relational appro...
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Sezer and Julie
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Oct 12, 2026
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Episodes
Walking your Walk: Dr Sharon Bond and Kerri Newns share experiences on developing a systemic training course. 03.07.2021 1:21:47
In this episode we speak with Dr Sharon Bond and Kerri Newns about Chiron, an independent training institution. We hear stories, reflections and processes on the journey of creating and developing an additional voice to the mainstream systemic training institutions.
Gwyn Daniel talking Family Dramas: Connections Between the Arts, Shakespeare and Systemic Thinking. 19.06.2021 1:01:26
In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Gwyn Daniel, a systemic psychotherapist and trainer who has experience of working in both children's services and in adult mental health. We focus on her wonderful book Family Dramas: Intimacy Power and Systems in Shakespeare's Tragedies (2018) and the connection between systemic thinking and the arts. Gwyn is also co-author of Gender and Fam...
Systemic Approaches in Social Work: A conversation with Nana Bonsu and Derek Dyer 06.06.2021 52:10
In this episode Sezer and Julie speak with Nana Bonsu and Derek Dyer about their wonderful work in integrating systemic ideas within the context of children and families social work. Nana is the head of service for a local authority and leads on the implementation of systemic practice and Derek is the service manager for the local authorities children looked after and care leavers teams.
Small Acts of Resistance - Thinking about Refugees: In conversation with Esther Usiskin Cohen 23.05.2021 40:46
In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Consultant Systemic Family Psychotherapist Esther Usiskin Cohen about her inspiring work with refugee populations in the jungle camps in Calais. We hear about the Refugee Resiliance Collective (AKA Calais Resilience Collective - Tavistock Group) which is a team of therapist who are developing approaches to enhance the resilience, capacity, coping strategi...
Izzat (honour), Sharam (shame) and the Call for Systemic Explorations: A conversation with Doreen Robinson and Dr Reenee Singh 24.04.2021 46:20
In this episode, Julie and Sezer speak with Systemic Psychotherapist Doreen Robinson and Dr Reenee Singh about their practice, experience and ideas within their joint paper Forced Marriage as a Representation of a Belief System in the UK and its Psychological Impact on Well-being (2020) which can be found in The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health (Majors, Carberry, & Rans...
Black Therapist - White Families, Therapists’ Perceptions of Cultural Competence and the making of The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health : A conversation with Karen Carberry and Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon 24.04.2021 1:03:36
In this episode Sezer and Julie speak with Karen Carberry and Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon about their paper Black Therapists – White Families, therapists’ perceptions of cultural competence in clinical practice (2020) which can be found in The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health ( Majors, Carberry, & Ransaw, 2020).
Connecting family scripts and systemic training: A conversation with Vanessa Walker 12.04.2021 1:09:23
This episode is a conversation with highly specialist systemic psychotherapist, Vanessa Walker, covering her perspectives on her own systemic training and how it connects with some of her family scripts and her Context article I am my father's daughter.
The "Good Enough" Family Therapist: A conversation with Amy Urry 28.03.2021 47:50
In this episode we speak with systemic psychotherapist, supervisor and trainer, Amy Urry, about ideas in her paper ' THE GOOD ENOUGH FAMILY THERAPIST: We may choose to be Family Therapists but not necessarily in circumstances of our choosing' . In this podcast we draw upon systemic and attachment ideas alongside professional and personal experiences to consider what it means to be an ade...
Jason and the Technicolour Social GGRRAAACCEEESSS: In conversation with Jason Maldonado-Page 14.03.2021 58:15
In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Jason Maldonado-Page about using the Social GGRRAACCEESS as a vehicle to explore issues of identity, relational reflexivity and self-reflexivity in family therapy. Jason has over twenty years experience working with children, adolescents, adults, couples and families in a variety of statutory and voluntary settings both in the USA and the UK. He is the...
Important Factors That Shape My Systemic Practice: In conversation with Dr Ged Smith 14.03.2021 40:20
In this episode Sezer and Julie speak with Dr Ged Smith about the factors that have shaped his systemic practice. Dr Ged Smith is a family therapist of more than 25 years in both CAMHS and Adult Services with various NHS Trusts in the North West as well as in Private Practice. He has been teaching, supervising and consulting all over the world in this time, and has many articles published in acad...
Multiculturalism, Social Justice and Third Wave Feminism: A conversation with Dr Manijeh Daneshpour 14.03.2021 58:24
In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Dr Manijeh Daneshpour about working with issues of culture and her book Family Therapy with Muslim (2014). Dr Manijeh Daneshpour is a systemwide director and professor of marriage and family therapy in the department of couple and family therapy at Alliant International University in Irvine, California and a licensed marriage and family therapist with o...
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