The Systemic Way

In this episode we are honoured to speak with Ncazelo Ncube-Mlilo, where we discuss her work with a focus on the COURRAGE approach that she has developed with women who have experienced trauma.  COURRAGE is a collective narrative way of working that privileges the alternative stories of women who have faced significant hardships. It honours the strengths, skills and courage women show and use in t...

In this episode, Julie and Sezer speak with Chiara Santin who  is a Systemic and Family Psychotherapist, supervisor, trainer and Director of Rainbow Family Therapy Services  and Rainbow Community Projects CIC.   Chiara has  worked with children and families for more than 30 years, in Italy as a community-based youth worker and in UK as a professional. She is passionate about promoting affordable f...

In this episode we hear about the  ground-breaking Handbook of Systemic Family Therapy (Wampler, 2020) from three contributing editors. We discuss it's creation, the process of its development and get a deeper dive into some of the chapters. This handbook is a magnificent resource for family therapist as its sets to redefine the  profession and practice of systemic therapy and it was a real p...

In this episode we meet with the founder of Superhero Therapy, the amazing  Dr Janina Scarlet! We talk about her  work, career and the development of Superhero Therapy. As ever, we explore how this approach can be used within systemic therapy and think about ways in which we can incorporate the use of Superheroes in our work with families. Dr. Janina Scarlet, based in San Diego, CA, is a Clinical...

In this episode we meet Dr Travis Heath, PhD, to speak about decolonising psychotherapy. He generously shares his current thinking, reading and practice around the topic. Travis Heath is Narrative Therapist, Clinical Psychologist and Associate Professor of Psychology at Metropolitan State University of Denver, Colorado. His work has  focused on  shifting from a multicultural approach to counseling...

In this episode we speak with Joe Cottrell-Boyce, film writer, systemic family therapist and social worker about the ITV drama "Stephen" which he co-wrote (2021).  We explore themes of family trauma, the impact of racism, institutional racism and the search for justice and peace.  We also discuss his 2021 paper "Addressing White privilege in family therapy: A discourse analysis&quot...

In this episode we meet with Josue Cardona who is the founder and president of Geek Therapy based in the USA.  Geek Therapy is a affinity based model of therapeutic intervention that shows you different ways to communicate and understand people through their passions and interest.  Learn more about Geek Therapy @  www.geektherapy.org  

In this episode we review the past year, looking at how the podcast started, our hopes in creating the content, review of the episodes and a look forward to what is coming up in 2022! Thank you to all the listeners and special guests that have joined us in our first year in making the podcast! Special thank you to Tasmin Arai Drake and Rena Paid for providing the art work and music for our podcast...

In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Helen Bonnick, author of the book 'Child to Parent Violence and Abuse: A Practitioner’s Guide to Working with Families'.  We discuss the origins of the book,  core ideas,  implications for practice and the systemic ideas which have both influenced and developed her work.

In this episode we speak with Professor Dr Carlene Firmin MBE and Lisa Bostock on the development, key ideas, research and implementation of Contextual Safeguarding.  We explore how the framework of Contextual Safeguarding crosses over and interacts with systemic concepts and gain insights into how we can begin to use this framework in our practice.  For more information on Contextual Safeguarding...

In todays episode we speak with systemic psychotherapy consultants, Percy Aggett and Philip Messent who share their thoughts on rethinking leadership and management through a collaborative approach drawing on systemic principles and ideas. Percy Aggett is a social work trained systemic psychotherapist. He was previously the Associate Clinical Director and Head of Psychological Therapies in Tower H...

VIVA talk! In today's episode Professor Hannah Sherbersky takes us through a piece of her work in the style of a VIVA. This episode gives the listener an insight into Hannah's practice and helpful ideas about answering questions and talking about ones work in general. Professor Hannah Sherbersky is  an Associate Professor, Systemic Psychotherapist, Deputy Director of Post-Graduate Taught...

NVR: In this episode we speak with Dr Peter Jakob and Joanne Buchmuller on the development, theory and practice of NVR. They share their own experiences and reflections in this insightful and informative conversation. Please do also check out their work at https://www.partnershipprojectsuk.com/ and their numerous publications on NVR.

In this episode we speak with Shona Grant about her relationship to embodiment in her practice - how she discovered it, its' meaning and the ways it has developed her as a systemic therapist and social worker. 

In this episode we met with author, dramatherapist and systemic practitioner Talya Bruck who talks to us about her therapeutic story writing and series of published books.  The  Savanna Therapeutic Stories series  was established at the beginning of Covid 19 2020  and are a valuable resource to help families, educators and therapists support young people through the use of metaphor. They are avail...

In today's episode Julie and Sezer meet with the Co-editors of Pandemic as Systemic Flux which is a writing project within  Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice . The writing project has established and reflects a preoccupation with a need for the systemic practice community to feel ownership of our journals, to feel connected to the texts they read, and feel entitled to...

Systemic Work in Singapore: A Conversation with systemic psychotherapists Maimunah Mosli and Fajar Saban on how they have introduced systemic practice to the  multi-cultural landscape of Singapore. In this episode we discuss cross-cultural practice, the role of spirituality and systemic community work. We also hear the inspiring journey  and development of the SYM academy in Singapore. 

A conversation with Prof. Dr. Peter Rober who is a clinical psychologist, family therapist and family therapy trainer. Peter practices and teaches in Belgium and has several articles in international journals of family therapy. In this episode we hear how Peter became a family therapist and his use of inner conversations and dual process thinking through case examples. Alongside this Peter talks a...

In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with the fantastic Eileen Murphy and Mawuli Amesu from the Eileen Murphy Consultants. They provide  consultancy, practitioners, and training in Solution Focused Brief Therapy.  They work with a wide range of people, groups and organisations such as local authorities and charities.  Eileen  leads the Consultancy and has, since 1993, devised specialist framework...

In this episode we speak with Dr Sharon Bond and Kerri Newns about Chiron, an independent training institution. We hear stories, reflections and processes on the journey of creating and developing an additional voice to the mainstream systemic training institutions. 

In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Gwyn Daniel,  a systemic psychotherapist and trainer who has experience of working in both children's services and in adult mental health.  We focus on her wonderful book Family Dramas: Intimacy Power and Systems in Shakespeare's Tragedies (2018) and the connection between systemic thinking and the arts.  Gwyn is also co-author of Gender and Fam...

In this episode Sezer and Julie speak with Nana Bonsu and Derek Dyer about their wonderful work in integrating systemic ideas within the context of children and families social work. Nana is the head of service for a local authority and leads on the implementation of systemic practice and Derek is the service manager for the local authorities children looked after and care leavers teams. 

In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Consultant Systemic Family Psychotherapist Esther Usiskin Cohen about her inspiring work with refugee populations in the jungle camps in Calais. We hear about the Refugee Resiliance Collective (AKA Calais Resilience Collective - Tavistock Group) which is a team of therapist who are developing approaches to enhance the resilience, capacity, coping strategi...

In this episode, Julie and Sezer speak with Systemic Psychotherapist Doreen Robinson and Dr Reenee Singh about their practice, experience and ideas within their joint paper Forced Marriage as a Representation of a Belief System in the UK and its Psychological Impact on Well-being  (2020) which can be found in The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health (Majors, Carberry, & Rans...

In this episode Sezer and Julie speak with Karen Carberry and Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon about their paper Black Therapists – White Families, therapists’ perceptions of cultural competence in clinical practice (2020) which can be found in The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health ( Majors, Carberry, & Ransaw, 2020).