The Real Health Podcast

"The idea of metabolic scoring is to take guilt out of the picture. Because this is not anyone's fault. It's basically a cosmic shift in just our whole lifestyle here in Western civilization." — Dr. Ron Hunninghake In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Drew Rose discuss the complexities of metabolic syndrome, its prevalence in the Western world, an...

“I mean, I believe so strongly that food, what we eat, matters.” —Jen Nolan In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley is joind by Jen Nolan, owner of Remission Nutrition and nutrition advisor at Riordan Clinic, to explore nutrition recomendations and the differences between what is recommended during active treatment and after treatment. 👉 Learn more about Jen Nolan and Rem...

“We survive in danger, but we thrive in safety.” —Jen Nolan The nervous system shapes how the body responds to stress, healing, and everyday life, often without us realizing it. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Kirsten West is joined by Jen Nolan, owner of Remission Nutrition and nutrition advisor at Riordan Clinic, to explore how the nervous system influences the healing process, e...

“Words give feelings meaning.” —Dr. Drew Rose Mental health is often treated as something separate from physical health, even though the two are closely connected. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley sits down with Dr. Drew Rose to talk through how a whole-person approach can support mental and emotional well-being. Dr. Drew shares how factors like nutrient levels, inf...

"The body wants to be well." —Dr. Kirsten West Every person’s health story looks different. Some people arrive after a diagnosis. Others come in after years of feeling dismissed, exhausted, or stuck searching for answers. In this first episode of the Riordan Clinic Provider Roundtable, Dr. Drew Rose is joined by Dr. Stacy Dunn and Dr. Kirsten West to discuss what led each of them to medici...

“It is so important, and I think most people don’t realize that some of the cancer treatments can actually impair bone health.”—Dr. Stacy Dunn Bone health doesn’t always get attention until something changes. For many people, especially after cancer treatment, shifts in bone density can happen quietly over time. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley sits down with Dr. St...

“Orthomolecular medicine is about giving the body what it needs to function at its best.” —Dr. Richard Z. Cheng There are many ways to approach health. Some focus on managing symptoms. Others take a step back and look at what the body needs to stay well in the first place. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Richard Z. Cheng to discuss how orthomolecu...

“We are only going to heal you as fast as your body can allow.” —Dr. Clayton Dir Pain doesn’t always need more appointments. Sometimes it needs a different approach. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Drew Rose sits down with Dr. Clayton Dir, Doctor of Physical Therapy and Clinical Director of Natural Wellness Physiotherapy, to talk about what’s missing in many recovery plans and how...

"Medicine is a team sport. We’re going to figure this out together." —Dr. Drew Rose A new chapter at Riordan Clinic begins with a familiar face and a shared vision for the future. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Drew Rose to talk through his journey into the role of Chief Medical Officer and what it means for the next 50 years of care at R...

"You can have two people with the same diagnosis and completely different plans." —Dr. Stacy Dunn World Health Day is a reminder to step back and look at the full picture of health beyond a diagnosis. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley sits down with Dr. Stacy Dunn to talk about integrative oncology and how it’s practiced at Riordan Clinic. If you’ve ever wond...

"This is a circulation upgrade." —Dr. Ron Hunninghake Many people recovering from COVID continue to deal with fatigue, brain fog, and symptoms that don’t fully resolve. For some, standard testing comes back normal, even when they don’t feel back to baseline. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Michelle Niesley discuss long COVID, microclots, and how chan...

"We’re moving from reactive care to proactive care." —Dr. Michelle Niesley Some people feel like they’re always reacting to symptoms without really understanding what’s underneath them. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Michelle Niesley to discuss leadership at Riordan Clinic and what it means to move toward a more proactive approach to care...

"This is a circulation upgrade." —Dr. Thomas Levy Many people recovering from COVID describe persistent fatigue, brain fog, or a sense that their body has not fully returned to baseline. These experiences continue to raise questions for both patients and clinicians. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake welcomes Dr. Thomas Levy to discuss circulation, microclots,...

"If you don’t measure, you’re guessing." —Dr. Ron Hunninghake This episode is a recording from our February 26, 2026, Lunch & Learn at Riordan Clinic in Wichita. Energy that rises and crashes. Mood changes that feel difficult to explain. Sleep that looks fine on paper but never feels fully restorative. Many people are told their labs are normal, yet they still feel off. This Lunch &amp...

"Measure, measure, measure." —Dr. Ron Hunninghake Fatigue that lingers. Brain fog that will not clear. Sleep that never feels restorative. Many people are told their labs are within normal ranges, yet they still do not feel like themselves. This conversation is designed for anyone looking to better understand hormone health, thyroid health, and metabolic patterns that can shape daily energ...

Update (February 25, 2026): Dr. Cynthia Aks is no longer with Riordan Clinic. “Healing involves addressing the whole person — body, mind, and lived experience.” — Dr. Cynthia Aks In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, welcomes Cynthia Aks, DO, FACOS, ABIHM, to the Riordan Clinic team. A board-certified General Surgeon and Integrative Healthcare Practitioner, Dr. Aks bring...

“It’s easy to think of melatonin as only a sleep supplement, but its story is much bigger.” —Dr. Ron Hunninghake Melatonin has been in the spotlight recently after a press release raised concerns about long-term use. In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Stacy Dunn bring clarity to the conversation by offering a perspective grounded in research, long-standing clin...

“Every case represents a new pathway to better health.” —Dr. Ron Hunninghake This episode of the Real Health Podcast looks ahead to the future of integrative care at Riordan Clinic. Dr. Drew Rose and Dr. Ron Hunninghake explore how the clinic is building on 50 years of learning, research, and co-learning to guide the next era of patient support. Dr. Ron reflects on the turning points he has witnes...

“You’ve got to have a really good imagination to see the bigger picture.” —Dr. Ron Hunninghake In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Michelle Niesley discuss how medical thinking has shifted over the decades and how those shifts have shaped the Riordan Clinic. They revisit the first, second, and third “medical revolutions,” what each one focused on, and how the cl...

“OMM helps us look beyond the place where pain shows up and understand what may be contributing to it.” —Dr. Drew Rose In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, sits down with Drew Rose, DO, to explore how Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM) offers a hands-on way of understanding the body’s structure and movement patterns. Dr. Drew explains how structure and function are...

“When you bring care back to patients and providers, everyone heals faster.” —Shaun Noorian In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake is joined by Shaun Noorian, CEO and founder of Empower Pharmacy, for a conversation about how innovation and integrity are transforming the future of medicine. Shaun shares how a personal health journey led him to reimagine what pharmacy could...

“When you understand the why behind illness, that’s when healing truly begins.” —Dr. Michelle Niesley In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake is joined by Michelle Niesley, ND, MS, FABNO—Chief Executive Officer of Riordan Clinic, clinical research, and naturopathic doctor specializing in integrative oncology—to explore how science, compassion, and curiosity come together in...

“True healing happens when medicine honors both evidence and intuition — when we use science to guide us, and humanity to connect us.” —Dr. Lise Alschuler In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Lise Alschuler, a leading naturopathic oncologist, educator, and author who has spent more than three decades advancing integrative approaches to cancer care. Tog...

“There’s no wrong medicine — only the wrong time to apply it. The best care happens when every discipline works together for the good of the patient.” —Dr. Paul Anderson In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Paul S. Anderson, a leading educator and clinician in integrative and naturopathic medicine. They explore the evolution of integrative oncology — f...

"Cancer is not a single-cause disease. It’s a web of factors — metabolic, mitochondrial, emotional — and each patient needs a personalized path to healing." —Dr. Pradeep Nair In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake speaks with Dr. Manickam Mahalingam, founder of the Mirakle Integrative Health Center in Coimbatore, India, and Dr. Pradeep MK Nair, Chief Medical Office...