The Perfect Step Podcast: Pathways to Healing

What happens when the life you planned disappears — and you’re forced to rebuild from the ground up? In this candid conversation, we explore what it truly means to navigate life after a spinal cord injury — not just physically, but emotionally, mentally, and spiritually.💬 Key reflections from this video: Losing parts of your old life doesn’t end you — it invites you to rebuild something more inte...

In this episode, we sit down with Jerry Robin to talk about resilience, mindset, and what it truly takes to rebuild your life after a major injury. Jerry opens up about the most surprising part of his journey — discovering his ability to stay relatively positive even through some of the darkest moments. With honesty and humility, he shares how surrounding himself with good people and a solid envir...

Chris has discovered something powerful about himself — he’s no longer afraid to put himself out there. Once quiet about his goals, he’s now using his voice to advocate for others and spread awareness about cerebral palsy. His message to parents of children with CP is simple but strong: never stop asking questions, seeking resources, and learning what works best for your child — because every jour...

When tragedy struck and Hal’s (Founder of TPS) life changed in an instant, Lorie Hargrave, Hal's mom, found herself facing a journey she never could have imagined. In this episode, we hear her perspective on what it means to walk through the darkest moments while holding onto faith, strength, and an unwavering sense of purpose. Lorie shares how the most surprising thing she discovered about he...

In 2011, Cory Hahn's life changed forever after sustaining a spinal cord injury while playing baseball at Arizona State University. But that moment didn’t end his journey — it reshaped it. In this powerful interview, Cory reflects on his baseball career, the day everything changed, and how he found new purpose beyond the field. Drafted by the Arizona Diamondbacks in 2013, Cory went on to earn...

In this moving episode, Alexis Evans and her father, Jerald, share the hardest and most transformative journey of their lives — navigating the aftermath of Alexis’s spinal cord injury. When Alexis first began physical therapy, the progress was slow, and the process often felt pointless. There were days she wanted to give up entirely. But with Gerald by her side — encouraging her through every grue...

After a life-changing spinal cord injury, Zack Collie discovered something unexpected—an unbreakable mindset forged through adversity. In this video, Zack shares the most surprising thing he’s learned about himself since his injury: that what broke his body ultimately built his spirit. He opens up about the power of resilience, the mental strength he never knew he had, and how struggle can shape p...

In this powerful and inspiring episode of Pathways To Healing, we sit down with James Meza, a former kinesiology student, baseball player, and now a rising star in the world of adaptive bodybuilding and entrepreneurship. After a life-changing spinal cord injury (SCI) in March 2022, James refused to let his diagnosis define his future. Instead, he’s rewriting the playbook — transforming adversity i...

🎧 Pathways To Healing | Special Episode:Hosts Cody Norman & Logan Frye — Behind the Mic on Exercise, Recovery, andthe Future of Paralysis Treatment In this very special episode of Pathways To Healing , the microphonesflip — and hosts Cody Norman and Logan Frye take the guest seats! Joining them is Zachary Grech , abroadcast journalism major from the University of La Verne, who leads anengagin...

In this powerful and heartfelt episode, we sit down with Doug Vincent — a lifelong advocate, broadcaster, and community leader whose story is one of perseverance, purpose, and impact. After contracting polio as an infant, Doug was told he’d never walk or live an independent life. Instead, he proved everyone wrong. From discovering his love for broadcasting through the KiiS Broadcasting Workshop to...

In this powerful and heartfelt episode, we sit down with Kathleen Landelius, PT, DPT—an experienced physical therapist, educator, and lifelong advocate for those navigating life after neurological injury. With over 20 years in the field and a deeply personal connection to her work through her brother’s traumatic brain injury, Kathleen brings a rare and authentic perspective on what it means to sup...

In this episode of Pathways to Healing , we sit down with Lisa Hilborn , Director of Outdoor Adventures and Recreational Therapy at Casa Colina Hospital , to explore the transformative power of adaptive sports . Lisa shares insights from her decades of experience, tackling common misconceptions, breaking down barriers, and highlighting the real-world impact of inclusive recreation. 🏀 Key Topics C...

In this deeply moving episode of Pathways to Healing , we sit down with Marley Basurto and her mother, Melissa , to talk about their powerful journey of strength, love, and perseverance. After a car accident in 2020 left Marley with a C4-C6 spinal cord injury , her world changed overnight. But through the challenges of recovery, isolation, and adapting to a new reality, one thing remained constant...

In this episode of Pathways to Healing, we are honored to welcome Dr. Maya N. Hatch, a leading researcher and Assistant Professor at the University of California, Irvine. Dr. Hatch shares her groundbreaking work in neurorehabilitation, focusing on functional recovery and neuroplasticity in individuals with spinal cord injuries and neurological conditions. Together, we explore the science behind ne...

In this powerful episode, Pathways to Healing kicks off Season 2 with the remarkable Chelsie Hill —a professional dancer, founder of the Rollettes, social media influencer, wife, and devoted mother. Chelsie shares her journey of living with paralysis while building a thriving career, raising her daughter Jaelyn with her husband Jay, and creating a community that has transformed lives across the wo...

In this episode of Pathways to Healing , we sit down with the visionary founder of Zebrafish Neuro, Stephanie Comella , to explore how movement, mindset, and innovation are transforming the spinal cord injury (SCI) recovery journey. With a rich background in Pilates, ABT, and a passion for holistic recovery, Stephanie shares her unique approach to reducing tone and spasms, improving posture, and h...

In this powerful episode of the Pathways to Healing podcast, we sit down with George Hanshaw — a human performance expert, sports psychologist, and Director of E-Learning Operations — to explore how mastering the mind can unlock new levels of recovery, growth, and reinvention. With a career path that spans from aircraft technician in the U.S. Air Force to thought leader in human performance and ed...

In this inspiring episode, we sit down with Samantha Bosco, a two-time Paralympic bronze medalist and Team USA para-cyclist. Born a congenital double below-knee amputee, Samantha’s journey is a testament to resilience, adaptability, and perseverance. From finding her passion for cycling to conquering international stages like the Paralympic Games and UCI Para-cycling World Championships, Samantha...

In this episode of Pathways to Healing , we are joined by Rowena Gates, a remarkable entrepreneur and health technology pioneer. Rowena is the Principal and Vice President of Business Development at Eng3 Corporation, where she launched the innovative NanoVi technology—a groundbreaking approach designed to aid cellular recovery and resilience. With a PhD from the University of Washington in interna...

In this inspiring episode of Pathways to Healing , hosts Cody Norman and Logan Frye sit down with Nicole Leasher, the Director of Education and Community Relations Liaison at The Perfect Step. Nicole’s journey into the paralysis community began with a personal connection — a close family friend sustained a spinal cord injury, opening her eyes to the strength and resilience of those living with par...

On this episode of Pathways to Healing our hosts, Cody Norman and Logan Frye, sit down with Clayton Roberts , we had the privilege of hearing about his incredible journey as a professional dirt bike rider who, in March 2024, experienced a spinal cord injury (SCI) at the T11/T12 level. Clayton took us through the moments leading up to his injury while competing in the AMA National Hare and Hound Ch...

In this episode of Pathways to Healing , hosts Cody Norman and Logan Frye sit down with Hal Hargrave Sr. (Big Hal), father of Hal Hargrave Jr., the founder of The Perfect Step and the Be Perfect Foundation. Big Hal reflects on the life-changing moment when his son’s catastrophic injury occurred and shares his emotional journey as a father navigating through this challenge. Listeners will hear powe...

In this heartfelt episode of Pathways to Healing, Ashley Hutton takes us through her profound journey from a traumatic childhood car accident to becoming a passionate educator and a loving mother, all while managing a spinal cord injury. Ashley discusses the importance of proper medical care post-injury, the challenges and triumphs of pregnancy and motherhood with SCI, and how she's leveraged...

In this episode of "Pathways to Healing," we sit down with José Perales, a remarkable individual who has turned his life around after a severe spinal cord injury (SCI) at the young age of 15. José shares his experiences of coping with chronic pain, traveling the world, and finding new meaning through physical, emotional, and spiritual healing. He discusses his involvement with The Perfec...

In this special two-part episode of the Pathways to Healing podcast, our hosts, Logan Frye and Cody Norman, step out from behind the mic to share their personal journeys. In part two, they delve deeper into their career paths and experiences that led them to The Perfect Step (TPS). Logan and Cody discuss how their backgrounds in kinesiology and baseball at the University of La Verne, along with th...