Barry & Shay Kostabi: Brand Strategist + Experience Designer
The Fitcarma Podcast
The Fitcarma Podcast is for fitness studio owners who are ready to make the leap from being a business to becoming a brand. Each episode explores what it really takes to build a fitness brand people feel, trust, and choose on purpose: from sharper positioning and stronger messaging to better class experiences, team alignment, and long-term loyalty. If you want to stand out in a crowded market, create a more memorable client experience, and build something people come back to for more than just the workout, this show is for you.
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Barry & Shay Kostabi: Brand Strategist + Experience Designer
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
FCM228: How To Create Fitness Classes People MUST Come Back For 09.07.2026 27:49
Why do people stop coming to your fitness studio? It's easy to blame motivation, discipline, busy schedules, streaming workouts, or short attention spans. But what if the real problem is something deeper? In this episode, Shay Kostabi of Fitcarma explores a belief-shifting idea for fitness studio owners, boutique fitness leaders, and group fitness entrepreneurs: People don't come back because they...
FCM227: The Number Nobody Talks About (With Mitch McGinley, Boutique Fitness Broker) 26.06.2026 1:21:34
What's the number nobody talks about? For boutique fitness studio owners, it's the sale price. But this episode isn't just for owners preparing to sell. It's for anyone who wants to build a studio that is more valuable, more transferable, and less dependent on them carrying the whole business. Shay and Barry sit down with Mitch McGinley, founder of Boutique Fitness Broker and author of The Number...
FCM226: What Makes Studio Marketing Actually Work (with Zach Mills, ONBRND Marketing) 28.05.2026 37:35
Most studio owners think they have a marketing problem. But what if the real issue is that your brand story, follow-up systems, and in-studio experience aren't working together? In this episode, we sit down with Zach Mills, founder of ONBRND Marketing, to talk about why ads alone won't fix a broken funnel, how to tell where your leads are actually falling off, and why studios need more than "sweat...
FCM225: What If Fitness Had Michelin Stars? (with Jack Thomas, The Fit Guide) 01.05.2026 57:33
Fitness is changing. Not because there's a hot new workout on the menu, but because people are craving something more meaningful than a class they try once and forget. In this episode, we sit down with Jack Thomas , founder and CEO of The Fit Guide and host of the Five Star Fitness podcast. Imagine if boutique fitness had the equivalent of Michelin stars or Forbes Travel Guide ratings. Not based o...
FCM224: If You Want To Grow... Your Studio Needs This First 04.04.2026 44:06
In this episode, Shay breaks down the hidden energy leaks that drain trust, culture, consistency, and scalability inside boutique fitness businesses... even the really good ones! From hiring the wrong people for the right reasons, to rushed onboarding, unclear standards, weak internal messaging, and teams with no real path for growth, this episode is a deep dive into what may actually be keeping y...
FCM223: Are You Talking to Your Members... or a Mirror? 24.10.2025 24:13
Your social media feed can be an invitation into your brand world, or a fancy display case. You didn't open a studio to perform. You opened it to help people feel stronger, steadier, more themselves. If your posts impress colleagues but the person walking in after a long day doesn't see themselves in it, something's out of alignment. In this conversation, we put the member back at the center, so...
FCM222: Brands That Moves People: Life Time's North Star with Jeff Zwiefel 19.09.2025 33:05
What does it really take to build a brand that moves people? In this conversation, Jeff Zwiefel ( former President & COO of Life Time) pulls back the curtain on the principles and systems behind one of the most trusted names in fitness. We unpack how a clear North Star , codified standards , and aligned teams create a consistent experience at scale, without losing soul. If you're a studio owner, p...
FCM221: Scaling with Soul: How to Build a Team That Rocks Your Brand Vision 11.07.2025 48:11
You've built something powerful. An experience your community loves. But behind the scenes, you're wearing too many hats, struggling to replicate the magic, and wondering how to get your team to carry the brand with the same heart you do. Sound familiar? In this episode, we unpack the real reasons team buy-in feels so hard, and what actually works when you're trying to scale your studio without lo...
FCM220: The Rhythm Remembers: Music as Medicine for Movement, Mood, and Meaning with Emma Marshall 21.06.2025 1:01:35
What if music isn't just a good playlist in your classes, but the most powerful tool you have to transform how your clients feel, heal, and remember your brand? In this unforgettable episode of the Fitcarma Podcast, we sit down with Emma Marshall , researcher, educator, and author of Music is Medicine , to explore the deep, untapped potential of music as a tool for nervous system regulation, emoti...
FCM219: Brands That Move People: Inside Collective Studios with Ashley Marand Iwanicki 30.05.2025 1:22:23
Ashley Marand Iwanicki is the founder and CEO of The Collective Studios , a boutique fitness brand in New Hampshire that's redefining what it means to lead with purpose, build community, and create experiences that actually move people. In this powerful conversation, Ashley shares how a vivid dream sparked the vision for her studio, what it means to build a brand rooted in expansion and belonging,...
FCM218: 13 Reasons Body Transformation Marketing Is Failing Your Business (Backed by Research) 16.05.2025 1:03:34
Episode Description & Show Notes: This week, a fitness influencer went viral for saying people over 200 pounds shouldn't be allowed in Pilates class—and that instructors with a "gut" shouldn't be teaching. Yes, she deleted the video. But the damage was done. Thousands of people agreed with her. This is the fitness industry we're still up against. And in this episode, we're not just pushing back—we...
FCM217: If They're Not Showing Up, That's On Us: Why the Real Problem Isn't Motivation—It's Conversion 02.05.2025 38:54
What if your potential clients aren't lazy, unmotivated, or inconsistent—what if your brand just isn't making them feel like they belong? In this episode, we challenge one of the fitness industry's most toxic assumptions and reveal why people aren't saying yes to your studio (even when your workouts are amazing). We'll share real stories, client examples, and a practical breakdown of how to build...
FCM216: Stepping Off The Trend Treadmill: Why We Keep Chasing What's Hot—and What to Do Instead 18.04.2025 49:30
Trends aren't growing the fitness industry—they're just keeping it spinning. Despite all the buzz and innovation, only 20–30% of people consistently work out. And that number hasn't moved in decades. In this episode, Barry and Shay unpack what they call The Trend Treadmill —the cycle of constantly chasing what's hot in hopes of staying relevant… and why it's not working. If you're ready to stop ch...
FCM215: The North Star: The Secret to Building a Brand That Grows With You 04.04.2025 36:22
If your fitness brand isn't growing the way you want it to, it's probably not a marketing problem. It's not your logo. It's not even your class experience. It's the lack of a North Star —a core belief that guides your messaging, your experience, your team, and your future. In this episode, Barry and Shay break down what a North Star really is, how to find yours (with a dead-simple exercise), and h...
FCM214: What Music, Mario Kart, and Your Cueing Style Have in Common 21.03.2025 47:41
What does your cueing style have in common with Mario Kart and a trip to IKEA? A lot more than you think. In this episode, Barry and Shay answer a big question from inside the Conservatory: How do you balance giving clear technique cues with creating a fun, immersive experience? They break down why fun isn't fluff (it's actually the key to results), how over-cueing can kill the vibe, and why great...
FCM213: Beyond the Workout: Crafting Story-Driven Class Experiences 27.02.2025 48:26
What if your fitness class was more than just a workout? What if it was a transformational journey where every client felt like the hero of their own story? In this episode, we dive deep into the Story Driven Class Experience™ , breaking down how to use the Hero's Journey framework to create more immersive, emotionally engaging classes. We'll explore: 🔥 Why traditional fitness programming falls...
FCM212: The Fear That's Silently Sabotaging Your Studio's Brand 14.02.2025 38:40
Are you unknowingly holding back your studio's growth? Many fitness business owners hesitate to define their clients' real struggles, fearing they'll sound negative or push people away. But here's the truth: If you don't define the problem, your dream clients won't see why they need you. In this episode, Barry and Shay break down the silent fear that's sabotaging your brand messaging—and how shift...
FCM211: A New Era, and a Game-Changing Challenge for Instructors 30.01.2025 39:13
After nearly a year away, we're back —and stepping into a whole new era! In this episode, we're catching you up on everything: our big move to Costa Mesa, our massive brand refresh (say hello to FitCarMa! ), and the exciting changes ahead for the podcast. But the biggest news? The Make Them Feel Something Challenge. This 21-day challenge is going to revolutionize the way you teach fitness classes,...
FCM210: Revolutionizing Your Studio: The Transformative Power of Strategic Instructor Reviews 06.04.2024 37:04
Whether you're new to conducting formal and informal evaluations or looking to refine your current process, this episode is packed with insights. We discuss performance reviews' important role in enhancing your business and team dynamics. Learn from common mistakes and adopt best practices for effective feedback. From improving instructor performance and engagement to aligning business goals and i...
FCM209: Soulful Strategies: The Revolution in Fitness Marketing You Need 03.03.2024 32:39
In this episode, we turn the traditional fitness marketing playbook on its head. If you're like most fitness professionals we speak to, you may not know exactly who your ideal client is or how to market to them in a way that communicates your value, or you have an idea of how you want to portray yourself to your people, but don't know for certain if that intention is felt and understood. The truth...
FCM208: How To Sell Out Your Classes & Become A Sought-After Experience 09.02.2024 35:38
Unlock the secrets to transforming your fitness classes into must-attend events with this enlightening podcast episode. We dive into innovative strategies that go beyond traditional fitness classes, focusing on creating a unique and immersive experience for participants. Discover how to captivate and retain a broader audience by incorporating creativity and passion into your offer. Here's what you...
FCM207: From Chaos To Consistency: Why Structured Programming is Essential for Studios & Instructors 26.01.2024 44:33
In this eye-opening episode, we delve into a crucial yet often overlooked aspect of group fitness success: the power of standardized programming in fitness studios. Join us as we explore why allowing instructors to freestyle their classes is a misstep for boutique studio owners, and how implementing structured, templated programming can revolutionize your business, as well as help set up instructo...
FCM206: The Power of MVC: The Path to Addictive Fitness Classes 08.12.2023 37:23
Get ready to dive deep into the art and science of creating fitness experiences that keep clients coming back for more! In this episode, Shay, our seasoned experience designer, peels back the curtain on the number one challenge studio owners face - inconsistency in their classes. Discover the secret sauce of "Minimum Viable Certainty" (MVC) as Shay explains its profound impact on client engageme...
FCM205: The Game-Changer: How to Overcome Your Biggest Obstacle to Success 20.11.2023 25:56
Uncover the Game-Changing Secret to Skyrocket Your Fitness Career... Join Barry and Shay as they unveil exclusive insights from one of Barry's recent strategy sessions, exposing the ONE elusive factor holding back fitness professionals from achieving unparalleled success. Discover the 'why' behind this obstacle, unravel its mysteries, and gain actionable strategies to shatter it. Don't miss out o...
FCM204: Why You're Not Selling Out Your Classes (& What To Do About It!) Audiobook Version 26.10.2023 22:09
This episode is the audiobook version of an ebook we wrote called ' Why You're Not Selling Out Your Classes (& What To Do About It!)' where we summarize what we feel is everything you need to know about what it takes to easily and confidently attract more of your dream clients. As you listen, you'll notice that at the end of each section are some journal prompts to help you take action and implem...
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