John Driver and Jonnie W., Christian Comedy Creatives
Talk About That
Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
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John Driver and Jonnie W., Christian Comedy Creatives
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Santa Stops, Prison Visits, and Advent 12.12.2024 47:53
John questions Santa's delivery route and takes a private jet straight to prison. Meanwhile, Jonnie has his rental car confiscated in the middle of the night, and tells the story of the time Winston Churchill got a prescription for booze. Plus, a conversation about Advent, waiting, and the beauty of brokenness. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Gift Bags and Limp Bizkit: "Both great for people w...
Frozen Turkeys, Cheapskates, and Big Tables 28.11.2024 34:09
John tells us why we really eat turkey at Thanksgiving and is forced to perform in a talent show before he can join the feast. Meanwhile, Jonnie defends the lowly Sloppy Joe as a quality sandwich and tells the tale of the woman so cheap she made nightgowns out of newspapers. Plus, a conversation about what it really means to "prepare a table for us in the presence of our enemies” and why some peo...
Is Gen Z Ready to Shed Cynicism and Embrace Hope? 21.11.2024 34:09
On this episode of Talk About That , we come back to the idea that cynicism is easy and hope is hard. If we’re not careful, we can all be cynics. But what have we built? The things that we grow and build in life that matter most are usually the people with whom we’ve built relationships. Today, John and Jonnie have a conversation about the courage it takes to hope and why the next gene...
Peppers, Hobbies, & Filibusters 14.11.2024 43:16
John defends green peppers, eats gum wrappers, and needs a hobby. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders why people romanticize medieval times and reveals the surprising reason the sandwich was really invented. Plus, a conversation about wisdom and foolishness, and how the internet has robbed us of contemplation before rendering an opinion. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Chewing Gum: "We'll see you again...
Prayer Peekers, Smarty Pants, and Stubbornness 08.11.2024 42:38
John keeps a secret folder of phrases to make himself look cool at parties and invents a clothing line. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders people who pray with one eye open and tells the story of the man who was jailed for 7 years for smoking tobacco. Plus, a conversation about the one thing wise and stupid people have in common. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Dogs: "We're like cats, except we're ex...
Monk Retreats, Hotel Robes, and Generosity 01.11.2024 41:28
John gets frustrated with ChatGPT and wants to be a monk (except for the silence part). Meanwhile, Jonnie stays at a hotel with a fancy television and thinks his wife may have stolen several pair of slippers. Plus, a conversation about prosperity, giving, and surrender. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Bobbing for Apples: "The Halloween Party game that's also an interrogation technique." FO...
The Importance of Voting and Civic Duties (Plus Early Baldness and Bruce Lee) 24.10.2024 41:32
John tells us why he just can't lick his fingers anymore and gets jealous of the Bachelor. Meanwhile, Jonnie dishes on an exciting delivery to the old ‘Beverly Hills 90210’ set and gets irritated by fancy ketchup at restaurants. Plus, a conversation about talent vs discipline and why repetition matters more than you think. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Text Messages From Political Campaign...
A Better Way to Think about Forgiveness (Plus Dog Training & Confused Emus) 18.10.2024 38:31
John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about pandas who fake pregnancy and how Abe Lincoln got body-shamed by an 11-year old girl. Plus, a conversation about forgiveness and grace as a habitual act. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Moving Walkways at the Airport: "We make you feel like you're in a factory that makes lazy people." ...
Why Battle Language in Scripture Needs to Be Handled with Care (Plus Plane Crashes, Redshirts & Loving Our Enemies) 10.10.2024 42:42
John looks bad in volleyball shorts and talks to a coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of the “redshirt freshman” in football and why the Beatles’ biggest hit was almost a song about breakfast. Plus, a conversation about the subtle difference between a wise person and a fool. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Oatmeal: “Tastes 45% better than it looks.” Take a journey with us through...
The Perfect Sandwich, Dopamine, and Systems 04.10.2024 44:23
John supersizes his game day food and ponders a time before cellphones ruined us. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why a picnic is no picnic and reveals how a little citrus saved some British sailors. Plus, a conversation about goals and systems, and why one is more important than the other. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hot Air Balloons: “The only form of flight that combines a wicker basket wit...
Neural Implants, World War III, and The Party of Principle 26.09.2024 46:46
John ponders neural implants and whether he’d want to control devices with his mind. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us about the guy who saved the entire world from annihilation by not doing his job, and shares the absolute worst inspiration Bible verse if you are a a wrestler. Plus, a conversation about the broken two-party system and the importance of seeing the humanity in people with whom you disagre...
"I Have Everything, Why Am I Still Sad?" A Conversation on Anxiety (Plus Outdoor Comedy and Lightbulb Jokes) 20.09.2024 48:09
John and Jonnie chat about the pros and cons of performing at a music festival. Then, Jonnie tells the tale of the very first chiropractor and shares some old jokes about changing light bulbs. Plus, a conversation about anxiety and brokenness, and why we need the proper perspective during hard times. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Trophy Shops: "If you have 30 bucks, we'll make you a winner...
How We’re Choosing Hope Instead of Cynicism (Plus Garbage Gifts and First Car Crashes) 12.09.2024 43:24
John gets a present straight from the garbage and starts a militia. Meanwhile, Jonnie wrecks his first car spectacularly and tells us about the longest baseball game in history. Plus, a conversation about choosing hope over fear and how our actions can make deserts or forests. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bubble Tea: “When you want a drink you can chew.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.co...
Rizz, Piggly Wiggly, and Priorities 05.09.2024 42:53
John learns the origins of the slang term “Rizz” and raises a celebratory toast to 17th century Massachusetts. Meanwhile, Jonnie haunts his own car while it’s in the repair shop and reveals why being the opener as a comedian can sometimes be a real sweet spot. Plus, a conversation about idols and order, and how misplaced priorities can lead to all kinds of problems. Today’s episode is NOT sponsore...
Recliners, False Endings, and Good Intentions 29.08.2024 31:12
John’s recliner dreams are dashed and he hesitates to tell strangers what he does for a living. Meanwhile, Jonnie has nightmares he can’t wake up from and argues that a very popular trilogy of movies are all about 30 minutes too long. Plus, a conversation about how we evaluate others versus how we judge ourselves. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Sporks: “Imagine an eating utensil somehow more...
Talking Volleyballs, Geometry, and Essentials 22.08.2024 31:45
John has to relearn geometry and tries his best not to be a bad sports parent. Meanwhile, Jonnie reminisces about school supplies that were also implements of carnage and reveals the history behind National Waffle Day. Plus, a conversation about disagreeing with someone without being disagreeable. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by High-Heeled Shoes: “When you want to make yourself look taller AN...
Breakdancing, Olympic Painting, and Eternity 16.08.2024 41:44
John tells us about some odd olympic sports that got discontinued and learns about a forbidden dance that terrified Christian parents when we were kids. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders an old joke about traffic and reveals the story of the woman behind the most iconic line from a commercial in the 1980’s. Plus, a conversation about eternity and why it’s a lot sooner than you think. Today’s episode is NO...
Olympics, Rap Beefs, and Trust 08.08.2024 52:08
John thinks the Olympic Steeplechase is unnecessarily dangerous and ponders getting our old band back together as a vanity project cash grab. Meanwhile, Jonnie explains why beefs between rappers are adorable and why learning about old political scandals actually comforts him. Plus, a conversation about faith in God that depends on an outcome vs. one that starts with a trust in His nature towards u...
Lost Keys, Finder’s Fees, and Wonder 01.08.2024 45:54
John thinks he deserves a cut of the proceeds from Jonnie’s comedy shows and dusts off his old Spanish lessons for a family trip. Meanwhile, Jonnie has the most expensive rental car ever and reveals the ordinary woman who inspired the Statue of Liberty. Plus, a conversation about stewarding an appreciation of the world around us and why you desperately need a 13-second hug, whether you know it or...
Pet Names, Typos, and Truth 18.07.2024 42:01
John can’t spell “yogurt” and has a dog who gives himself shock therapy. Meanwhile, Jonnie isn’t sure a llama should be in your kitchen and tells us the surprising retail price of the nation’s first ballpoint pen in 1945. Plus, a conversation about whether ignorance really is bliss and why knowing the truth makes things better, but not necessarily easier. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Slic...
Cat Jokes, Canyon Crashes, and Interdependence 11.07.2024 44:50
John misquotes yet another popular saying and wants to die at age 100 in the most dramatic way possible. Meanwhile, Jonnie argues that “tearing it off quick like a Band Aid” is terrible advice and tells us how to inform your neighbor that their cat has died. Plus, a conversation about vulnerability, worry, and independence—and what the Bible really means by “daily bread.” Today’s episode is NOT...
Love Languages, Torture Songs, and Goodness 04.07.2024 50:24
John becomes an overnight Lakers fan and tells us what song could be used to torture him into submission. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes to a Celine Dion concert and reveals the secret to a great comedy venue. Plus, a conversation about prayer and how our thoughts steer the direction of our lives, for better or worse. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Fireworks: “This year, put some Chinese-made explos...
Why It's So Easy to Idolize the Days of Youth 26.06.2024 46:09
John shares his supervillain origin story and why he loves sitting in a hot car (even though it might be killing him). Meanwhile, Jonnie tells an old (and pointed) joke about religion, along with the story of the Automobile Club who got busted for helping speeders avoid the cops. Plus, a conversation about our idolization of youth, the marginalization of the elderly, and why we all need to become...
Shoe Racks, Seatbelts, and Isolation 20.06.2024 52:22
John compares churches to soft drinks and reveals his wife’s growing (and dangerous) shoe problem. Meanwhile, Jonnie changes his mind about seatbelt laws and tells us about the time the Pope (literally) demonized cats and helped spread the Plague. Plus, a conversation about love and risk, and why a guarded heart is like putting plastic covers on your sofa. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by 1 o...
Doomsday Preppers, 25-foot Chickens, and The Truman Show 06.06.2024 50:42
John goes to a fishing rodeo and regrets not being a doomsday prepper. Meanwhile, Jonnie makes some new friends at a petting zoo and ponders being chased by 25-foot chickens. Plus, a conversation about Main Character Syndrome, victim mentality, and how to know whether you are being persecuted or just disagreed with. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bluetooth: “40% of the time, it works every t...
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