John Driver and Jonnie W., Christian Comedy Creatives
Talk About That
Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
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John Driver and Jonnie W., Christian Comedy Creatives
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Latest episode
Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Old New Cars, Jingles, and Contrarianism 31.05.2024 52:22
John tells us the secret to happiness and gives his daughter (and himself) a birthday gift. Meanwhile, Jonnie takes a bucket list trip with his 84-year old father in law and comes up with a new way to get people to look at positive news stories. Plus, a conversation about the laziness of contrarianism and why we will be remembered for what we built, not what we've torn down. Today’s episode is...
Can You Choose to be in a Good Mood? 23.05.2024 31:20
John tells us why he would be a terrible NASCAR driver and the boys argue over whether professional wrestlers are athletes or actors. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a run-in with the cops because he forgets his phone and tells the story of NBC’s diabolical plan to get people to buy color TVs in the 1950s. Plus, a conversation about worry and the importance of attempting to affect the course of your though...
Are Cicadas Out for Revenge? 16.05.2024 31:14
John goes to extreme lengths to stop his snoring and attracts some local females. Meanwhile, Jonnie’s poor eyesight almost causes a scene at the grocery store. Plus, a conversation about letting go of our need for vengeance, and our inclination towards moral superiority. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Professional Wrestling : “Ironically less legitimate than amateur wrestling.” FOLLOW Jonn...
Prejudice, Body Language, and Twister 09.05.2024 38:46
John ponders what the best accent is and wants to bring back the word “comeuppance.” Meanwhile, Jonnie takes his first red-eye flight and tells the story of the time Johnny Carson saved the game Twister from extinction. Plus, a conversation about bias and why it so easy to make a hasty judgment before hearing all sides. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Cicadas: “After 17 years, we’re finally mo...
Cold Cuts, Traitors, and Self-Worth 02.05.2024 34:53
John changes his mind about lunchmeat and gets kicked out of a football game. Meanwhile, Jonnie turns the tables on a police officer, and tells the tale of the “Human Fish.” Plus, a conversation about self-esteem and the balance between knowing our value vs. over-inflating it. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Coffee: “You just woke up. Quick, pour this hot liquid into your face.” FOLLOW Jonn...
Loaded Broccoli, Gift Horses, and Hope 25.04.2024 47:22
John threatens someone with a loaded broccoli and tells us why not to look a gift horse in the mouth. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about redundant colons and gives his review of the newly re-styled Cracker Barrel. Plus, a conversation about success and happiness and why they are not usually the same thing. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Your Favorite Sports Team: “We are going to absolutely ruin...
You Will Definitely Be Forgotten (and That’s Great News) 18.04.2024 53:06
John gets a ’67 Mustang and some pointy sideburns, and wonders if relatives can see us from heaven. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders how long he could stand on one foot and ponders why having your accomplishments forgotten is actually a huge relief. Plus, a conversation about living by a standard vs. being ruled by our feelings or the actions of others. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by IKEA: Our Ins...
How Concerned Should You Be About the End of the World? 10.04.2024 53:06
John preaches the day before the eclipse and DOES NOT reference it in his sermon. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells the story of a presidential candidate who lost an entire state because of the way he ate a tamale. Plus, a conversation about the American obsession with End Times prophecies and our human need to know things that cannot be fully understood. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Ginger Ale: “W...
Analog Rebellion, Deep Fake News, and Divine Intervention 04.04.2024 56:05
John reads some listener emails and gets his writing into The Bible (but not like a heretic, we promise). Meanwhile, Jonnie is starting to fear Artificial Intelligence and tells the story of the craziest coincidence ever. Plus, a conversation about how tolerance and compromise is actually rooted in early Christianity. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Botox: “Your new face will raise some eyebr...
Christian Music, Big Orange, and Sowing & Reaping 28.03.2024 57:16
John tells us what NOT to say in a fight with your wife and that we basically drink orange juice for breakfast because of a government contract during World War II. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a dumb idea for church drum cages and has a conflicted relationship with his team’s colors. Plus, a conversation about people doing good while working in a flawed system and why changing your mind can lead to cha...
Ghost Shrubs, Arcade Robberies, and Perspective 21.03.2024 1:01:32
John heads to Las Vegas to help his daughter jump higher and gets scolded while gambling exactly one dollar. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets his computer stolen at a pastor’s conference and tells us about the time a woman got quarantined for life because she wouldn’t stop cooking. Plus, a conversation about faith as a lens by which we see the world. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Paper Straws: “Savi...
Eclipses, Fast Cars, and Friendship 13.03.2024 42:47
John makes an awkward joke on primary Election Day and has a magical (and questionable) encounter with a bald eagle. Meanwhile, Jonnie plans a weekend of comedy shows in the path of the coming eclipse, which may lead to him sleeping in his car. Plus, a conversation about compatibility in marriage and why it’s not necessarily the most important thing. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Wearing P...
Death Threats, Stressed States, and Wonder 07.03.2024 45:58
John wonders what happened to the roadside Rocket in Huntsville, AL and tells us which states are the most stressed out. Meanwhile, Jonnie releases an old comedy clip and somehow finds the angriest people in Iowa. Plus, a conversation about regaining a sense of wonder and what it really means to have “faith like a child.” Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Election Polls: “Getting the most accur...
Bike Ramps, Go-Karts, and Mistakes 29.02.2024 40:09
John gets a go-kart and embarrasses his daughter with a “cool” handshake routine. Meanwhile, Jonnie jumps over the neighborhood kids with his bike and tells the story of a basketball player who saved a dolphin’s life in the weirdest way possible. Plus, a conversation about the importance of taking risks and why a careful life is more empty than one full of mistakes. Today’s episode is NOT sponso...
Seasickness, Elopements, & Tribalism 22.02.2024 38:19
John gets the flu and makes Jonnie sing the highest harmony notes ever at his wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie ambushes John’s former teenage celebrity crush for a cruise ship selfie, and tells the story of Abe Lincoln becoming buddies with a guy who wanted to kill him. Plus, a conversation about how to disagree with someone without dehumanizing them. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Books: “It’s l...
ENCORE EPISODE : Valentines Day 14.02.2024 20:34
You wanted it, you got it! A special encore of Talk About That's 2023 Valentines Day minisode. The boys take a deep dive into the important topics like high school crushes, the best Valentine’s candy, and how long is too long in a hot tub. FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCR...
Awkward Roses, Ten Lepers, and Neuroplasticity 07.02.2024 38:12
John gets jealous at a Boyz II Men Concert and teaches us about Neuroplasticity. Meanwhile, Jonnie gives his band’s demo CD to Tobymac in hopes of a record deal, and ponders what it would be like to officiate the wedding of Kevin Bacon. Plus, a conversation about the power of positivity and giving our spouse the benefit of the doubt, and the danger of dehumanizing our enemies. Today’s episode is...
Space Monkeys, Food Poisoning, and Pressure 01.02.2024 42:47
John offers a chimpanzee a promotion at NASA, and travels back in time to Meet Alexander Hamilton, and neither goes well. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the one thing you don’t do on a tour bus and ponders the time that Russia skipped the first two weeks of February. Plus, a conversation about performing under intense pressure, and the most important quality a public speaker can have. Today’s episode...
Radio Silence, Patriotic Turkeys, and Contentment 25.01.2024 51:40
John puts all his memories in the cloud and begs Jonnie not to tell him the score of the game. Meanwhile, Jonnie performs in front of 16,000 people and hurts himself playing ice hockey. Plus, a conversation about toxic hustle culture, and finding the delicate balance between self-improvement and contentment. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by TikTok : “You’re gonna get injured. You may as well...
Weathermen, Bootleggers, and Power 18.01.2024 47:08
John worries about Jonnie driving in the snow, and considers getting his PhD. Meanwhile, Jonnie talks to his Uber driver and immediately regrets it, and ponders drinking from a boot. Plus, a conversation about the Illuminati and other conspiracies, our collective need for gossip and secrets, and what it says about our culture. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Doggie Doors: “Convenient for pets...
Trash Days, Camp Games, and Geniuses 11.01.2024 41:35
John has a power trip as a camp counselor, but gets humbled by the Lord of the Landfill. Meanwhile, Jonnie licks windowsills and ponders his questionable clothing choices in the 90’s. Plus a conversation about the difference between talent and genius. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Pickleball: “Hope you’ve already met your insurance deductible this year.” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https...
Speed Demons, Codependency, and Vices 03.01.2024 44:17
John plans to live to be 100 and drives on the emergency shoulder on Christmas. Meanwhile, Jonnie takes issue with the ending of Back to the Future and says something to a traffic cop that gets him pulled out of the car. Plus, a conversation about resolutions, vices, and remaining at peace with our neighbors. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Vitamin Supplements: “We aren’t sure if they work,...
The Grinch, Bathtub Boycotts, and Manifest Destiny 26.12.2023 39:19
John tells us about the perils of recording an audiobook and unveils the latest theme music for his “Quote of the Week” segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie writes love poems for a girl he isn’t even interested in and tells us about the time bathtubs got banned. Plus, a conversation about the problems with modern content creation and how legacy artists like the Beatles would’ve handled it. Today’s episode...
Christmas Fish, Toilet Paper Panics, and the Shoe-pocalypse 21.12.2023 48:14
John can’t stop replacing dead fish for his daughter and tells us the three words every parent dreads at Christmas. Meanwhile, Jonnie buys way too many coats and reveals his least favorite Christmas song. Plus, a conversation about irresponsible use of a public platform and how lies in print can have real world implications. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Tinsel: “When you want your Christm...
Cheetahs, Bad Listeners, and Christmas Toys 14.12.2023 47:26
John reassures Jonnie about his use of text emojis and admits he can’t multitask. Meanwhile, Jonnie finds a car wash with the dumbest name ever and tells the story of the original Doorbuster Christmas toy: the Cabbage Patch Doll. Plus, a conversation about how to be a better listener and learner. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Egg Nog: “Only available one month out of the year… because it’s...
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