Talk About That

John ponders how many pics of his kid is too many and vigorously defends coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals what all rock band photos have in common and finds out the terrible original name for the Girl Scouts. Plus, a conversation about The Sermon on the Mount and why it's needed now more than ever. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Restaurant To-Go Boxes: "Let the other half of your meal rot i...

John reads a listener email and wishes we could be a zany Morning Zoo Radio Show. Meanwhile, Jonnie has an important retraction from last week (because he is stupid) and tells us about some wild wedding proposals on Leap Day in 13th Century Scotland. Plus, a conversation about neighbors, enemies, and America's addiction to grievance. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Driving Directions From Old...

John cleans out his office and gets mad at his younger self while listening to some old tapes. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the history of the windshield wiper and the story of a man whose own hanging could not stop him from roasting the grammar of his captors. Plus, a conversation about certainty and humility—and why a clear path may not always be the best one. Today's episode is NOT sponsore...

"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life, and you will call it fate." - Carl Jung. Self-awareness is a double-edged sword. Too much of it and you can become an introspective navel gazer. But at the same time, as John Calvin said, "without knowledge of self, there is no knowledge of God." In this episode, John and Jonnie talk about what healthy self-awareness looks like v...

"He who fears he shall suffer, already suffers what he fears." - Michel de Montaigne. This guy said that in the 1500s… so anxiety has been around for a while. In this episode of Talk About That , we talk about fear and worry - is there a way to get better at worry? Can we worry less in 2025? Is that a resolution we can keep? Listen in to our conversation about gratitude and actively looking...

John can't sleep unless there’s noise and tries to remember math so he can help with his daughter's homework. Meanwhile, Jonnie almost has a heat stroke at a stranger's house in Phoenix and reveals what the "I've fallen and can't get up" lady was paid for her iconic commercial performance. Plus, a conversation about childlike wonder, and fighting the tendency to project our own cynicism onto...

The boys are joined by dear friend and documentary producer Alyson Holland to talk about her new project on Ronald Reagan. John forgets what generation he is in and ponders the last time we had Aly as a guest and almost burned their friendship to the ground.  Meanwhile, Jonnie decides he is exactly as famous as he ever wants to be and wonders whether the world’s longest hotdog was even...

John forgets the lyrics to his own song and reveals his earliest childhood memory. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders "very special episodes" of 80's sitcoms that dealt with heavy issues and tells the tale of the heroic birds who ruined Hitler's Olympic Games in Berlin. Plus, the boys are joined by their good friend, singer/songwriter Caleb Christopher Edwards, to talk about his brand new project "Hoosierm...

John changes his mind on a cheesy 90's song now that he's a girl dad and ponders whether aliens are real. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the commercial jingle that makes him homicidal and tells the insane story of the last bareknuckle boxing match. Plus, a conversation about friends, enemies, and the best revenge. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by July: "Water your plants all you want. They're alread...

John plays basketball against some teenagers and finds out that George Lucas was just making Star Wars up as he went along. Meanwhile, Jonnie evicts his uninvited bird guests and complains about fast food prices like an old man shouting at the clouds. Plus, a conversation about why negativity is so easy and why hope takes courage. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Oranges: "Now 100% pulp!”...

John passes a class without ever opening the textbook and ponders whether he used to preach too long. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders if train travel is really safe and tells the story of a gift from France that came unassembled—and the strange political path it took to become our symbol of freedom. Plus, a conversation about justice, greatness, and the responsibility we have to one another. Today...

John does the work of 3 grown men and learns why Benjamin Franklin was a lot like Andre the Giant. Meanwhile, Jonnie eats the last ice cream bar while out on tour with another comedian and tells the tale of the Satanic Panic that helped start the Black Plague in the 1200’s.  Plus, a conversation about why it's so hard to make new friends as adults. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Kl...

John avoids flying bread and questions whether the Apostle Paul was easy to get along with. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders his comedy origin story and tells the tale of the unfamous third man to walk on the moon. Plus, a conversation about coincidence, providence, and all the things we thought we wanted, but are glad we didn't get. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Movie Theatres: "Way more expensive...

John wants his friends to be honest, even if it hurts—and gets hungry hearing about a tornado in England. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns exactly how many roller coasters it takes to make him nauseous and makes a joke at a "General Baptist" convention. Plus, a conversation about whether compromise is always a bad thing. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Message in a Bottle: "The least reliable wa...

John is terrified of youth (even though he was a youth pastor) and congratulates Jonnie on his symmetrical face wounds. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the surprising star who was rejected for the lead role in the original Terminator movie and tells the tale of Fred Turner, the man who walked across America. Plus, a conversation about asking, seeking, and knocking—and why our persistence in prayer...

John goes on a fast to get ready for his time on camera and makes a staunch defense of green peppers. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the harrowing tale of a gnarly scooter crash that temporarily derailed his comedy tour, but might have actually improved his nose. Plus, a conversation about what "good" really means and why God is trustworthy, but not predictable. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Aco...

This week, take a walk down memory lane from our October 17, 2024 episode where John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about pandas who fake pregnancy and how Abe Lincoln got body-shamed by an 11-year old girl.  Plus, a conversation about forgiveness and grace as a habitual act. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Moving Walkways a...

John makes sermon illustrations about soda and hosts a Santa convention at the church. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells the story of Elmo testifying before Congress and wonders if police dogs know that they're cops. Plus, a conversation about mercy and sin—and why our perspective of how God sees us is so important. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Rainbows: "We just escaped from prism." FOLLOW Jon...

John can't find the remote until he finds his glasses and defends his love of McDonald's. Meanwhile, Jonnie feels old after a conversation with a young comedian and tells the story of the time Winnie the Pooh went on trial for assault in the 80’s. Plus, a conversation about the late great author and theologian Brennan Manning and what it means to be a "Ragamuffin.”  Today's episod...

John prepares for his "Super Bowl" and adds a middle initial to his books. Meanwhile Jonnie channels his inner Chris Farley for a church skit and tells the tale of the Spaghetti Tree Hoax. Plus, a conversation about love and the gospel—and why how we present it shows whether or not we really have it. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Air Travel: "Soar through the clouds like a bird (but on...

John dreams of a month-long train ride and tries not to embarrass himself in front of a Christian music legend. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a flat tire in the weirdest way possible and reveals the strange history of Super Glue. Plus, a conversation about humility and how we are being shaped by the difficulties in our lives. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Best Western Hotels: “If we are...

John wishes his girls would get ready faster and writes a children's book about a fish. Meanwhile, Jonnie think March has the most violent holidays, and reveals why he never liked The Power Team.  Plus, a conversation about how we think God sees us and why it really matters. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Android phones: "Turning your text threads green since 2008.”  FOLLOW Jo...

John rents a haunted AirBnB and ponders podcasting from his deathbed. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries to be a better listener and discovers the terrifying reason he likes hotel pillows. Plus, a conversation about what real leadership is… and what it isn't. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Sliced Bread: "It's the best thing since…bread."   FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW J...

John has no idea how ice hockey works and ponders if a cat could get elected mayor. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders if a big butt helps you or hurts you with a hula hoop and tells the creepy story of the first chiropractor. Plus, a conversation about oversimplification and why critical thinking is more rare than ever. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Stools: "When you need to sit down, but also want...

John tries to sneak a knife onto a plane and aims fireworks at his friends. Meanwhile, Jonnie meets Tim Tebow and tells the story of the time the Pope influenced an entire generation to sip the "Devils Drink.”  Plus, a conversation about looking for the good in the world and getting more vulnerable with age. Today's Episode is NOT sponsored by Bananas: "Deliciously ripe for exactly fift...