Talk About That

John issues a retraction about ranch dressing and pours money into an old car. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals why a hug from a Disney character is the best and tells us why fashion matters more than you think when climbing Mt. Everest.  Plus, a conversation about picking your battles, and beginning with the end in mind. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Bagged Salad Mix: "When you want to eat he...

John puts himself on the (literal) hot seat and buys a Cadillac made of gold. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us about the "Dancing Plague" of the 16th Century and the strange reason ketchup was invented. Plus, a conversation about the difference between healthy confidence and a self-destructive ego. Today episode is NOT sponsored by Biscuits & Gravy : "When you want some really wet flour on top of yo...

John stays in a hiking lodge with strangers and tells us why some things are better off being dirty. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a mishap trimming his goatee and reveals the pecking order of entertainers. Plus, a conversation about Self-Talk and why your words may matter more than you think. Today's episode is not sponsored by Garage Sales: "When you really want to waste a Saturday in your driveway to m...

John wants to take a long train ride and is exhausted by AI deep fake videos. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a Facebook comment that is actually helpful and makes a big splash when he reveals his very first memory from childhood. Plus, a conversation about how the movies and media we consume shape our personality and core values. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by SPF 15 Sunscreen: “When you want t...

John defies his GPS and begrudgingly admits his father's motto was actually pretty great. Meanwhile, Jonnie brags about his elite status on a budget airline and tells the story of the time a solar eclipse stopped a war and led to a royal wedding. Plus, a conversation about validating our feelings without always being driven by them. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Golf: "The angriest you've ev...

John has specific instructions for his wife when he dies, and reveals his obsession with vice grip pliers. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the real villain of the Titanic movie and tells the strange story of how government-imported camels in the 1800's led to ghost sightings in Arizona. Plus, a conversation about contemplation, and the power our thoughts have over the direction of our lives. Today's epi...

John critiques the Big Mac and tries to be productive, but only if he can track it on his phone. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a decade-old video go viral and does a Maypole dance against his Mom’s wishes.  Plus, a conversation about dopamine addiction and the urge to oversimplify problems that need more nuance. Today’s Episode is NOT sponsored by “Meaty Okra: The Vegetable that tas...

John gets invited by Jonnie to a gender reveal party for an insect and refuses to get his brain hacked by Elon Musk. Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks Abe Lincoln should’ve seen a dermatologist and tells us the history of the zipper. Plus, a conversation about emotional maturity and the right way to change someone’s mind. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by At Home Orthodontics: “Br...

John tries to stop his head from shining, and tells us the illustrious history of the Slurpee. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes to a 20 year old movie, and shares the story of the time Winnie the Pooh got sued for assault. Plus, a conversation about side-hustles, impostor syndrome, and why some of our favorite people doubt their abilities. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Skim Milk: "It's better for you,...

John teaches us about the history of candy and ponders growing a skullet. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a senior moment at the movie theater and tries to find out why Betty Ford danced on a table at the White House Plus, a conversation about how difficulties and trials tend to deepen our relationships. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by The Stock Market: "Like a casino, but without the free drinks!" Disc...

John ponders whether anyone "hate listens" to the show and makes sermon illustrations out of old cartoons. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why the first cell phone call was used to troll a competitor and what he learned from Jim Carrey about being a comedian. Plus, a conversation about human nature, humility, and why "Main Character Energy" isn't the flex you think it is. Today's episode is NOT sponsor...

John gets bougie with the sideline snacks for his daughter's volleyball game and wonders if Daniel from the Bible snuggled with the lions. Meanwhile, Jonnie gives us the strange history of the washing machine and gets intimidated at an event when he hears the list of previous keynote speakers. Plus, a conversation about virtuous leadership, honor, and the main thing George Washington got right. To...

John gets secret messages in his ear during worship and ponders whether we need merch. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets interviewed by an 80's comedy icon and tells us the demographic breakdown of his fanbase. Plus, a conversation about reactionaryism, revolution, and choosing hope over fear. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Grapefruit: "If you like oranges, try their bitter, overweight cousin!" FOLLOW J...

John ponders how many pics of his kid is too many and vigorously defends coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals what all rock band photos have in common and finds out the terrible original name for the Girl Scouts. Plus, a conversation about The Sermon on the Mount and why it's needed now more than ever. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Restaurant To-Go Boxes: "Let the other half of your meal rot i...

John tells us about his short-lived career as a rapper and ponders how much protection his book would offer against a would be assassin. Meanwhile, Jonnie changes his rock band's name way too many times and tries in vain to stop a rodent infestation. Plus, a conversation about how God shapes us through pain and disappointment, and why that's actually a good thing. Today's episode is NOT sponsored...

John reads a listener email and wishes we could be a zany Morning Zoo Radio Show. Meanwhile, Jonnie has an important retraction from last week (because he is stupid) and tells us about some wild wedding proposals on Leap Day in 13th Century Scotland. Plus, a conversation about neighbors, enemies, and America's addiction to grievance. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Driving Directions From Old...

John cleans out his office and gets mad at his younger self while listening to some old tapes. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the history of the windshield wiper and the story of a man whose own hanging could not stop him from roasting the grammar of his captors. Plus, a conversation about certainty and humility—and why a clear path may not always be the best one. Today's episode is NOT sponsore...

John does some retail therapy and ponders a bold new way to reduce his screen time. Meanwhile, Jonnie hits the road with way too much luggage and tells the strange history of the Patron Saint of Toothaches. Plus, a conversation about vulnerability and why a life without humility is so dangerous. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Telepathy: "Tell me you know what I'm saying without telling me you...

"You do not need to know precisely what is happening or exactly where it is all going. What you need is to recognize the possibilities and challenges offered by the present moment and to embrace them with courage, faith, and hope." - Thomas Merton. In this episode, we have a conversation about the "pursuit of happiness" and why adapting to challenges is a far better goal.  Plus, John gets a 4...

Bertrand Russell said, “There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge.” If there was ever a flagship quote for our podcast, is this it? Are we drowning in knowledge? Is knowing too much actually harming our brains? In today's episode, a conversation about information overload in the age of the internet and whether knowing too much is killing our brains. Plus, Joh...

"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life, and you will call it fate." - Carl Jung. Self-awareness is a double-edged sword. Too much of it and you can become an introspective navel gazer. But at the same time, as John Calvin said, "without knowledge of self, there is no knowledge of God." In this episode, John and Jonnie talk about what healthy self-awareness looks like v...

John comes in second place A LOT and tries his best to look menacing on his way to Walgreens. Meanwhile, Jonnie eats way too many caramels and learns that the most highly ranked restaurants are also selling car parts. Plus, a conversation about the trap of comparison and how to enjoy the one life you've been given. We make a lot of resolutions this time of year, things we plan to do... but is ther...

"He who fears he shall suffer, already suffers what he fears." - Michel de Montaigne. This guy said that in the 1500s… so anxiety has been around for a while. In this episode of Talk About That , we talk about fear and worry - is there a way to get better at worry? Can we worry less in 2025? Is that a resolution we can keep? Listen in to our conversation about gratitude and actively looking...

Think about it: the greatest adventures you’ve experienced almost certainly had inconveniences. What mishaps are you currently experiencing that might lead to great stories later on? On this episode of Talk About That , we share some laughs about our holiday hiccups, and a few of our favorite funny moments from Christmases past. As GK Chesterton wisely said, "An adventure is only an inconven...

John becomes an impromptu firefighter and turns Jonnie's rental car story into a sermon illustration. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets flagged at the airport and tells us the real reason "It's a Wonderful Life" became a classic. Plus, a conversation about self-righteousness and the temptation to make the gospel about "other more sinful people" when it's really about us. Today's episode is NOT sponsored...