Since Right Now

Hey, look! It's the first episode of Season 4! With Refuge Recovery founder, Noah Levine! Exclamation point!

About an hour after the show ended I got an email from Alice apologizing for getting her days mixed up. D'oh! With HP as my witness, she will be on the show. Someday. In her absence we talked about a wide range of issues not the least of which was the passing of Carrie Fisher.

The boys went to a Refuge Recovery meeting and found it refreshingly light on the dogma and heavy on the karma.

Contentment. A great feeling? Or, the best feeling? Also, alcohol causes cancer.

Matt & Chris cover a wide range of topics. Did Matt ever score on Silk Road? Can shrooms cure alcoholism? Are we cynical assholes? Find out the answers and more in this episode.

Scott Steven of TheAlcohologist.com joins us to discuss the health risks of alcohol and it's impact on healthcare and society.

Are non-alcoholic beverages only for non-alcoholics? Burning question? Or burning desire? Just the boys again, talking the Trump administration's dismantling of all the addiction and recovery progress made by the previous administration, N.A. beer, Refuge Recovery, and more.

"I need to remember how bad it was and how bad it could have been.”—Chris as his 20th year of sobriety nears. Jeff & Chris discuss long-term sobriety, meeting others of our kind in the wild and how others' stories can help remind us of what we've gained in sobriety.

"Fuck, I'm Ben Affleck."—Chris on our sobro casting in our Since Right Now biopic. Chris is back from Europe and the gang's back together! Topics: N.A. beer, Brad Pitt, anonymity, and more!

“Please listen responsibly." Some old favorites are back again: depression, anxiety, resentments, to go to meetings or not, what we drank—or didn't, getting out of our own heads and more! Last episode before a 3 week! hiatus. Yikes.

“You have to put a wall around Purdue Pharma."—Jeff on preventative wall placement. The boys discuss Buddhism and psyche themselves up to go to a Refuge Recovery meeting, they express skepticism that "He" will do anything of note to support prevention and recovery efforts (unless you count wasting a tremendous amount of money on building a wall,) they discuss whether or not Chris has relapsed (!,)...

"My dad asked me if you could go anywhere and do anything, what would you do? And I said, I'd go back to bed."—Wilson on depression in early recovery. Lift Heavy, Run Long: https://www.liftheavyrunlong.com/ _________ Themes by @djfmdotcom

"I couldn't just run two miles, I had to run a marathon." —Jennifer on her 'all or nothing' nature Jennifer O of The First 500 on The Recovery Revolution joins us in studio.

"The personal is political." Jeff, Matt, & Chris break one of the taboo topics on the show and discuss recovery in context of the current political atmosphere.

Ryan Hampton & Garrett Hade of http://AddictionXAmerica.com ____________ Themes by @djfmdotcom

"I just want to be well in recovery." Liv Pennelle of http://LivsRecoveryKitchen.com Themes by @djfmdotcom

Depression! Anxiety! Panic Attacks! It's all here folks. Themes by @djfmdotcom!

"(I was) having these moments where things were going really well and then things weren't going well and I didn't know why they were not going well.…'cause I thought I was trying." — Andy on the mysteries of the unsober Stand-up comedian and writer, Andy Haynes! http://ImAndyHaynes.com (Yes, the Outro accidentally recorded—wihout my knowing—over the beginning of the show. FML?) _____ Themes: @djfm...

Do I really have to spell it out for you?

“You can’t fight your way out.” Chris on the fight-or-flight response to situations that trigger his social anxiety Get a pen and paper and make your own liner notes. Fun for you!

“It keeps a lot of people out.”—Jeff on the dogmatic requirement of a higher power in AA Jeff, Matt & Chris try to figure out what the difference is between religion and spirituality; if they're either; if they want either and they laugh at Jesus…the jacked, Korean Jesus that is.

“I literally woke up on morning and just wanted to stop everything and make them all.”—Sondra on the insistence of creative inspiration. Tammi Salas of http://TammiSalas.com and Sondra Primeaux of http://TheUnruffled.com talk sobriety, recovery, and creativity.

”I'm a woman, I'm good with that.”—Claire ”Not everything has to be a perfect experience.”—Kristi Claire Rudy Foster & Kristi Coulter back again. Claire: http://honestopinionreviews.com/ Kristi: http://www.kristicoulter.com/ _______________ Themes by @djfmdotcom

Jennifer is author of four nonfiction books about body, mind, and human well-being, including the just-published Sex in Recovery: A Meeting between the Covers, as well as The Recovering Body: Physical and Spiritual Fitness for Living Clean and Sober. She speaks and writes widely, and she teaches writing at the University of Pittsburgh. Her long-running site about addiction and recovery, Guinevere...

”I have not been relieved of the desire…I've been relieved of the obsession.” Find out more about Tess and her upcoming Web series, Cleaner Daze @ http://CleanerDaze.com and on the show's Facebook page, @CleanerDazeSeries