Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon
Science In-Between
This is a conversation about how science teaching can move between and connect different worlds.
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Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 179: Back in Our Prime 07.02.2024 1:05:03
In this episode, we discuss the role that AI tools should play in the development of beginning researchers. We introduce the following tools: Elicit Microsoft Copilot Claude LitMaps Connected papers Research Rabbit Consensus Things that bring us joy this week: The Holdovers All of Us Strangers Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 178: Flexing Your Affordances 31.01.2024 54:29
This week we at least start out talking about learning spaces, both virtual and physical, but we wander a bit from there. Things that bring us joy this week: Nuts and Bolts: Seven Small Inventions That Changed the World in a Big Way by Roma Agrawal The Right Mistake by Walter Mosley Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 177: Stuff We Think We Know 24.01.2024 1:00:09
In this episode, we discuss "10 Education Studies from 2023 that You Should Know" from Education Week. https://www.edweek.org/leadership/10-education-studies-you-should-know-from-2023/2023/12?utm_source=nl&utm_medium=eml&utm_campaign=eu&M=8614276&UUID=00e12bd8a61b87f3c64166df19fe4b41&T=11418127 Things that bring us joy this week: Cerakote Headlight Restoration Ninth House by Le...
Episode 176: Stars of Many Colors 17.01.2024 46:24
This week we talk about perfectionism, grades, and systems of evaluation and how they impact learners and us as humans. Things that bring us joy this week: Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel Dr. No by Percival Everett Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 175: Not Scott's Bucket List 10.01.2024 47:37
Here, we discuss a recent episode of the podcast, WorkLife with Adam Grant. In that episode, Grant meets with Ivy Ross and Susan Magsamen, the authors of the book "Your Brain on Art." We also chat about research showing the correlation between the arts and award-winning artists. Arts Foster Scientific Success: Avocations of Nobel, National Academy, Royal Society, and Sigma Xi Members Things that b...
Episode 174: Outgroup Bucket List 03.01.2024 53:52
Welcome to 2024! Look at us, we made it. This week we talk outgroup dehumanization and how we put people in buckets of us and them. What is the consequence of our tribal nature has humans and the way that makes us willing to treat people that our not in our tribe in dehumanizing ways? Adam Grant's Work Life podcast episode with Elliot Aronson Things that bring us joy this week: Whalefall by Daniel...
Episode 173: The Show Before the Show 27.12.2023 39:21
In this special holiday edition, Scott and Ollie record their pointless banter before the show. Things that bring us joy this week: Noah Kahan Great British Baking Show Holidays Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 172: Not Just Nonsense 20.12.2023 51:31
This week we talk about the research that we do when we are not talking to each other on the podcast. Things that bring us joy this week: Sufjan Stevens - Songs for Christmas Trust by Hernan Diaz Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 171: A Simulating Conversation 13.12.2023 48:52
In this episode, we discuss the role of computer simulations in science education. Some resources we share in this episode: https://phet.colorado.edu/ https://www.nsta.org/teaching-simulations https://www.openscied.org/simulation-library/ Things that bring us joy this week: Advent Calendars 8 Mile Pizza Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 170: Uncomfortable Transitions 06.12.2023 40:35
This week we talk about the importance of discomfort in learning. Inspired by reading: Hidden Potential by Adam Grant Things that bring us joy this week: The Passenger by Cormac McCarthy Grapevine Podcast Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 169: Add It Up 29.11.2023 40:16
In this episode, we discuss the NCTM standards and teaching practices and how they compare to the NGSS standards. NCTM Principles to Action Things that bring us joy this week: College Football: Michigan vs. Ohio State Tootsie Roll Snowballs Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 168: The Holiday Uncle Test 22.11.2023 35:29
This week we talk about The School of Thought, in particular the new Conspiracy Test that asks people to examine their own thinking. We make connections to how students learn and how to have civil conversations at the holidays. School of Thought The Conspiracy Test Things that bring us joy this week: Holiday Movies, in particular Four Christmases Scene on Radio , in particular the series Seeing Wh...
Episode 167: One Query, Two Query, Red Query, Blue Query 15.11.2023 47:54
In this episode, we discuss different ethical scenarios that relate to the use of generative AI in academic situations. Things that bring us joy this week: Hadsel by Beirut The Squirrel and Acorn Bookstore Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 166: Fidelity Landmines 08.11.2023 43:54
This week we talk about the complexity of "scaling up," or how we try and spread innovations in practice. We unpack the notion of fidelity and what it means when you want to avoid deficit positioning of learners and hierarchical notions of change. Things that bring us joy this week: The Banshees of Inisherin Research Rabbit Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 165: Fallacious Beasts and Where to Find Them 01.11.2023 42:49
In this episode, we discuss logical fallacies and how they apply to science education reform efforts. Some resources from this episode include: Audible Reckoning: How top political podcasters spread unsubstantiated and false claims (Brookings Institute, 2023) Some logical fallacies Things that bring us joy this week: Hidden Potential by Adam Grant Make Stuff Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction b...
Episode 164: Old and Regular Practices 25.10.2023 43:35
This week we talk about the engineering practices, which were added to the science practices as part of the Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS). Things that bring us joy this week: Great British Baking Show on Netflix Tour de France Unchained on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 163: Caught in Charlotte's Web 18.10.2023 47:52
In this episode, we attempt to do a cross-walk between Charlotte Danielson's Framework for Teaching and the Next Generation Science Standards and Ambitious Science Teaching. In our conversation, we draw on the following the documents: New Jersey's Science Instruction Companion to the Danielson Framework New Vision for Public Schools' Science Look Fors Things that bring us joy this week: The Winner...
Episode 162: Your Cultural Cookies 11.10.2023 44:32
This week we talk about how we talk about the social and political consequences of science as part of what we do in Ambitious Science Teaching classrooms. Heraclitius - Never step in the same river twice... Things that bring us joy this week: Fall/Autumn Weather (Sweater Weather) Dan Coe Carto Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 161: A Nobel Aspiration 04.10.2023 45:46
In this episode, we discuss who would qualify for a Nobel Prize in Education, if one existed. Things that bring us joy this week: Stop Making Sense Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 160: It Just Something Vibrating 27.09.2023 36:05
This week we return to the gapless explanation and how it can help with planning and enactment of teaching. Things that bring us joy this week: Adult Kids Moving Out Chef Reactions Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 159: I'm Julius Sumner Miller... 20.09.2023 38:13
In the episode, we discuss Julius Sumner Miller, Professor Wonderful. We specifically examine his work in the following videos: From the Australian ABC Network: Why is it so? - Tanker truck video From PBS: Demonstrations in Physics - Centrifugal Force and Other Strange Matters From The Hilarious House of Frightenstein – The Professor Things that bring us joy this week: Hijack on Apple TV+ All the...
Episode 158: Do You Want to be a Sibling? 13.09.2023 41:06
This week we talk about becoming a new member of a community and how old-timers can support bringing in new folks. Things that bring us joy this week: Seth Godin's Blog The Killing Room by Robert Smartwood Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 157: An Eye on Identity 06.09.2023 39:37
In this episode, we talk about "professional identity" and how it informs our work in teacher education and science professional development. Things that bring us joy this week: The US Open Theater Camp Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 156: Joys to the World, Vol. 3 30.08.2023 43:47
This week we share our joys for the year in books, movies, apps, games, and more. Things that bring us joy this week: Podcast The Retrievals from Serial Productions Blank Check with Griffin and David Books The Mountain in the Sea by Ray Naylar Scythe Album / Recording Artist The Record by boygenius John Craigie Game Elevate [Connections](Connections) Application Obsidian Goodreads Movie Oppenheime...
Episode 155: Crafting Syllabi in a Chat GPT World 23.08.2023 46:05
In this episode, we discuss the curricular implications of Chat GPT as we craft our syllabi for the Fall semester. This episode was inspired by a post Ollie wrote on his blog: https://the8blog.wordpress.com/2023/08/15/crafting-syllabi-in-a-chat-gpt-world/ Things that bring us joy this week: John Mulaney's comedy special, Baby J on Netflix Heart of Stone on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Evic...
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