Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon
Science In-Between
This is a conversation about how science teaching can move between and connect different worlds.
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Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 304: Authentic Nugget Farming 08.07.2026 37:59
This week we talk about the idea of authenticity in science education (and more generally) and why it matters in education, particularly in terms of science practices. Our episode about Situated Cognition Brown, J. S., Collins, A., & Duguid, P. (1989). Situated Cognition and the Culture of Learning. Educational Researcher , 18 (1), 32-42. Things that bring us joy this week: Scene on Radio - Th...
Episode 303: Examining the Harms of AI 01.07.2026 47:15
In this episode, we share ideas from the Inside Higher Education article titled, A Taxonomy of Harm for the AI Age by Paul Corrigan. Things that bring us joy this week: Live Music World Cup Soccer Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 302: Not the Explorer 24.06.2026 37:56
This week we talk about how research gets valued, and specifically the Declaration on Research Assessment (DORA) and the idea of impact and impact factors. Things that bring us joy this week: World Cup Soccer The Devils by Joe Abercrombie Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 301: Chatting with ChatGPT 17.06.2026 39:00
In this episode, we answer questions that ChatGPT has generated based on our podcast. Things that bring us joy this week: Advice for New Fauclty Members by Robert Boice Wrexham vs Sunderland Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 300: Simulacrum of Passing Gas 10.06.2026 44:32
This week we celebrate our 300th episode by looking back at how it all began, how our focus remains on how people learn and then going many places you would not expect (as usual). Things that bring us joy this week: Summer Festival Season Meeting the Universe Halfway: Quantum Physics and the Entanglement of Matter and Meaning by Karen Barad Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 299: A More Perfect Union 03.06.2026 43:22
In this episode, we revisit the unionization efforts at Penn State University. Things that bring us joy this week: Welcome to Wrexham Project Hail Mary Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 298: Dewey Have to Joke? 27.05.2026 46:05
This week we talk about the surprisingly prescient article from John Dewey in Science Education from 1916. Why did we not listen to him? Things that bring us joy this week: Season 1 of Doctor Who on Tubi All the Water in the World by Eiren Caffall Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 297: Commencing to Speak 20.05.2026 44:02
In this episode, we discuss what makes a good commencement speech. Things that bring us joy this week: Reformer Pilates Wolf Hour by Jo Nesbo Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 296: Flexible Fairness 13.05.2026 46:20
This week we talk about the tension between fairness and flexibility when deciding about what kind of work people do and how we count it. Things that bring us joy this week: Noah Kahan Out of Body on Netflix and The Great Divide Glyph Word Game Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 295: Centering Humans with Technology 06.05.2026 40:17
In this episode, we discuss an article that outlines a framework for examining human-centered technology. Article: Guest, O. (2026). What Does ‘Human-Centred AI’ Mean? Behavioral Sciences, 16(4), 583. https://doi.org/10.3390/bs16040583 Things that bring us joy this week: Big Mistakes Day of the Jackal Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 294: Badgeless in Seattle 29.04.2026 41:41
This week we talk about deficit framing that researchers and teachers often take when doing their work. Framing students in terms of what they don't know instead of what they do know. Things that bring us joy this week: Detective Hole on Netflix Altered Carbon on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 293: Professional Noticing 22.04.2026 50:49
In this episode, we meet with Dr. Brett Criswell from West Chester University to discuss "professional noticing." Brett references his recent article in the New Educator . Some other books Brett references include: The Art of Noticing by Rob Walker On Looking by Alexandra Horowitz Slow Looking by Shari Tishman Objectivity by Lorraine Daston and Peter Galison Skilled Vision by Cristina Grasseni Thi...
Episode 292: Not Flying In 15.04.2026 47:48
The week we talk about scaling/impact, in other words how we think about innovation moving across educational systems. Things that bring us joy this week: Automated Ball-Strike Challenge System in Baseball Michigan Basketball (Now National Champions!) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 291: Pedgagogical Offloading 08.04.2026 43:37
In this episode, we discuss the pedagogical implications of AI use. Things that bring us joy this week: Red Rising A Swim in a Pond in the Rain Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 290: Partner Play 01.04.2026 41:57
This week we talk about doing partnership work with schools. Things that bring us joy this week: Euchre SITE Conference Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 289: Thoreau Corollary 25.03.2026 48:29
In this episode, we discuss technology, pedagogy, and what our future classrooms could look like. Things that bring us joy this week: How to Get to Heaven from Belfast Racing Mount Pleasant Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 288: Can You Accommodate Us? 18.03.2026 44:05
This week we talk about accommodations for students who need them and their increasing number in higher education. Things that bring us joy this week: Ammonite by Nicola Griffith King Sorrow by Joe Hill Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 287: AI Very Special Episode 11.03.2026 52:49
In this episode, we discuss how qualitative researchers are using AI with Dr. Elizabeth Langran, Dr. Paula Cristina Azevdo, and Dr. Shernette Dunn. Things that bring us joy this week: The City and Its Uncertain Walls by Haruki Murakami Author Charles Yu The Joy Lab Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind Special Guests: Elizabeth Langran, Paula Cristina Azevedo, and Shernette Dunn.
Episode 286: How Competent Are We? 04.03.2026 50:59
This week we discuss teacher education competencies and how they are used to structure requirements and thus courses at universities. Things that bring us joy this week: Traitors UK on Peacock Trumpet Ensemble Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 285: Take Me to Your Leader 25.02.2026 41:23
In this episode, we discuss the role of the Science Content Advisor at the PA Department of Education. Things that bring us joy this week: Fallout series on Amazon If I Had Legs I'd Kick You Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 284: Brains are Messy 18.02.2026 41:09
This week we talk about the difference between knowing and understanding and maybe how comparing to AI neural networks can help clarify the difference. Things that bring us joy this week: Vineland by Thomas Pynchon Absolute Batman Vol. 1&2 by Scott Snyder and Nick Dragotta Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 283: Games People Play 11.02.2026 46:30
In this episode, we discuss card games, especially ones for learning. Some of the games mentioned in the episode include: Analog Inspiration The Rithm Project AI Leadership Cards Things that bring us joy this week: The Pitt on HBO Pistachio Ice Cream Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 282: Snow Day 04.02.2026 37:35
This week we talk about snow days (since we had one) and also how they are a case study in policy vs. guidance vs. practice across lots of areas. Things that bring us joy this week: McSweeny's Quarterly Concern Academy Award Nominated Best Pictures (specifically Train Dreams ; F1 ; and Secret Agent ) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 281: Can We Make Science Education More Accessible? 28.01.2026 37:15
In this episode, we try to answer a listener's email about online accessibility and science education. Things that bring us joy this week: The Rip movie Is This Thing On? movie Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
Episode 280: Dark Forest of Naming 21.01.2026 45:47
This week we talk about conceptualizing and operationalizing ideas in educational research and the impact of that process on improving teaching practice. Things that bring us joy this week: Buena Vista Social Club F1 Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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