Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon

Science In-Between

This is a conversation about how science teaching can move between and connect different worlds.

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Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon

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Education

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Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 229: In Your Left Earhole 22.01.2025

This week we talk about how leaders learn to be leaders and what the challenges are for leaders who don't have training. Things that bring us joy this week: Skiing Machine Learning and Human Intelligence: The future of education for the 21st Century by Rosemary Luckin Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 228: Sticky Certifications 15.01.2025

In this episode, we discuss science certifications in PA. Things that bring us joy this week: Shogun on FX The Diplomat on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 227: Talking Teachers 08.01.2025

In this episode, we try to talk about our favorite fictional science teachers. Things that bring us joy this week: English Teacher Lee Movie Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 226: Caste(ing) Faculty 01.01.2025

This week we talk about the relationship between tenure track and teaching/clinical/non-tenure track faculty. Things that bring us joy this week: Red Rising by Pierce Brown Deacon King Kong by James McBride Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 225: Grades and Grace 25.12.2024

In this episode, we discuss student situations where grace may be needed. Things that bring us joy this week: Holiday Movies Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 224: Fear of Social Death 18.12.2024

This week we talk about the tension between knowing you need to let people talk through their own thinking and the fact that all learning opportunities have time constraints. Things that bring us joy this week: Sampson Boat Co. YouTube Channel Everyone This Christmas has a Secret by Benjamin Stevenson Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 223: Conferencing about Conferences 11.12.2024

In this episode, we discuss an upcoming conference presentation. Things that bring us joy this week: The Murderbot Diaries The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 222: Written Bold Predictions 04.12.2024

This week we talk about what the Department of Education does and what it means if it is weakened or eliminated. Things that bring us joy this week: Portugal (yes, the country) Tom Lake by Anne Patchett Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 221: It's Tricky 27.11.2024

In this episode, we discuss conducting observations with teacher candidates. Things that bring us joy this week: First Lie Wins by Ashley Elston Shrinking on AppleTV+ Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 220: Hard for Ollie to Say 20.11.2024

This week we talk about how we see and interpret the world is a lot about who we are and what our experiences have been all the way down to the data coming from our senses. [Alternative episode title: Old Man Illness Corner] Uexküll's Umwelt Things that bring us joy this week: Only Murders in the Building on Hulu Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 219: A Conversation about Controversy 13.11.2024

In this episode, we discuss the teaching of controversial topics in science. Things that bring us joy this week: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga NCAA College Football Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 218: Sad Batman 06.11.2024

This week we talk about how to answer the question "when does the teacher intervene when a kid's idea is wrong?" Things that bring us joy this week: The Penguin Question Everything with Brian Reed Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 217: Assessing the Assessments 30.10.2024

In this episode, we discuss the released sample questions for the PA Keystone exam in Biology. Things that bring us joy this week: PA Teacher Educator of the Year Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 216: Gaps and Naps 23.10.2024

In this episode, we revisit gapless explanations. Things that bring us joy this week: Sleeping Giants by Sylvain Neuvel Home Improvement Projects Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 215: CoPilot Failure 16.10.2024

This week we talk about failure in science and how we need to think about it in terms of teaching. Things that bring us joy this week: Horse by Geraldine Brooks Nobody Wants This on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 214: A Phenomenal Episode! 09.10.2024

In this episode, we revisit the topic of phenomena and their selection and use in science classes. Things that bring us joy this week: Against the Rules podcast The Old Guard Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 213: Answering Question #3 02.10.2024

This week we talk about book clubs for professional learning and how to structure them. Things that bring us joy this week: Apple Cider Doughnuts Smokeless Firepits ( Breeo (not (yet) a sponsor) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 212: Playing Whack A Mole 25.09.2024

In this episode, we discuss the complicated nature of learning space, learning theory, and pedagogy. Things that bring us joy this week: Dear Reader game Pittsburgh Riveters Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 211: Practice with Morning Ollie 18.09.2024

This week we talk about why hands-on and lab activities are not the same as phenomenon-driven science practices. Things that bring us joy this week: Mike Bribiglia - The Old Man and the Pool on Netflix Rex Orange County - The Alexander Technique Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 210: Our Nerd Era 11.09.2024

This week we talk about AI and what teachers should know about it. Things that bring us joy this week: The Fall Guy Slow Horses , Season 4 Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 209: Celebrating Partnerships 04.09.2024

In this episode, we discuss the value of partnerships between higher education institutions and schools. Things that bring us joy this week: The Demon of Unrest by Erik Larson The Gentlemen series on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 208: Joys to the World, Vol. 4 28.08.2024

This is the end of season 4, so it is an all joys episode, so enjoy (see what we did there). Things that bring us joy this week: Podcast Search Engine Decoder Ring Book Martyr! By Kaveh Akbar The Heaven & Earth Grocery Store by James McBride Album Maggie Rogers - Don't forget me Adrianne Lenker Game Cypher 007 Monikers Phone App Athlytic Yoga Go Movie Past Lives Deadpool & Wolverine Televi...

Episode 207: Devil in the Details 21.08.2024

In this episode, we discuss conducting observations of phenomenon-based science classrooms. Things that bring us joy this week: The Ferryman by Justin Cronin The band, Dehd Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 206: Craft of Carving 14.08.2024

This week we talk about teaching as a science, engineering, design, craft, or art practice. Things that bring us joy this week: Shop Class as Soulcraft: An Inquiry into the Value of Work by Matthew B. Crawford Meet You in Hell: Andrew Carnegie, Henry Clay Frick, and the Bitter Partnership That Changed America by Les Standiford Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 205: Project 2025 Explained 07.08.2024

In this episode, we outline the educational aspects of the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 documen t. Things that bring us joy this week: Spotle, Music Wordle game Immunity to Change book Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

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