Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon

Science In-Between

This is a conversation about how science teaching can move between and connect different worlds.

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Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon

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Education

Latest episode

Oct 21, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 244: Not My Definition of Good 14.05.2025

This week we talk about how to work with teachers who may not want to change in the way that you want them to change. Things that bring us joy this week: Thunderbolts* Never Split the Difference:: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It by Chris Voss Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 243: Call Me Aquaticus! 07.05.2025

This week, we discuss a recent Radiolab episode and how important research and exploration are. Radiolab episode: The Age of Aquaticus Things that bring us joy this week: 50th Anniversary of Monty Python and the Holy Grail Four Seasons on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 242: Potentially Unstable Nuclear Ollie 30.04.2025

This week we talk about leadership, transparency, workload, and evaluation. Things that bring us joy this week: The Residence on Netflix Moulin Rouge! on Broadway or on film Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 241: Blowing Stuff Up 23.04.2025

In this episode, we discuss what a practice-based teacher education could look like. Things that bring us joy this week: Dirty Chai Song Exploder , especially the episodes with MJ Lenderman and Adrianne Lenker Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 240: WTF PCK 16.04.2025

This week we talk about Pedagogical Content Knowledge, all the related concepts it has spawned, and how those are or are not useful in moving our understanding of teaching forward. Things that bring us joy this week: Remarkable (a new gadget) Fixing things (particuarly 3D printing in this case) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 239: A Manifesto Party 09.04.2025

In this episode, we discuss A Sudent Manifesto for Assessment in the Age of AI from the London School of Economics and Political Science. Things that bring us joy this week: Red Rising saga from Pierce Brown The Audacy app Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 238: Certain about Uncertainty 02.04.2025

This week we talk about uncertainty and how important it is to good science teaching. Watkins, J., & Manz, E. (2022). Characterizing pedagogical decision points in sense-making conversations motivated by scientific uncertainty. Science Education, 106(6), 1408–1441. https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.21747 Things that bring us joy this week: Awesome Toes Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legall...

Episode 237: Golden Days? 26.03.2025

In this episode, we discuss when the "golden age" of education was. Things that bring us joy this week: Japanese Breakfast - For Melancholy Brunettes (& Sad Women) Severance on AppleTV+ Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 236: Life Gets in the Way 19.03.2025

This week we talk about relabeling practice with new teaching terms and how it is like what happens with students in science classrooms. Things that bring us joy this week: Baseball (Especially Spring Training with the Pittsburgh Pirates) Ireland (and Library St. if you are looking for a restuarant recommendation) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 235: Grouped Together 05.03.2025

In this episode, we talk about grouping in classroom environments. Things that bring us joy this week: James by Percival Everett Erotic Stories for Punjabi Widows by Balli Kaur Jaswal Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 234: Fast and Furious DOGE 26.02.2025

This week we talk about the firings and threats around defunding NSF, NIH, and capping indirect costs to Universities. Things that bring us joy this week: Conclave Say Nothing by Patrick Radden Keefe Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 233: Don't Be a Tourist 19.02.2025

In this episode, we revisit the topic of artificial intelligence and discuss how it is being integrated into classwork. Things that bring us joy this week: My Old Ass White Lotus Season 3 Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 232: Face Full of Morning Ollie 12.02.2025

This week we talk about the keynote I am delivering at Pennsylvania Educational Technology Expo and Conference (PETE&C) STEELS Summit. Things that bring us joy this week: Paradise on Hulu Hirshhorn Museum in the Simthsonian Institute Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 231: Heading Home 05.02.2025

In this episode, we discuss homework. Things that bring us joy this week: Paul Krugman on Substack AI Snake Oil Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 230: Is a Hot Dog a Sandwich 29.01.2025

This week we negotiate the meaning of negotiation of meaning and what kind of talk that means. Things that bring us joy this week: The Last Showgirl Anatomy of a Fall Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 229: In Your Left Earhole 22.01.2025

This week we talk about how leaders learn to be leaders and what the challenges are for leaders who don't have training. Things that bring us joy this week: Skiing Machine Learning and Human Intelligence: The future of education for the 21st Century by Rosemary Luckin Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 228: Sticky Certifications 15.01.2025

In this episode, we discuss science certifications in PA. Things that bring us joy this week: Shogun on FX The Diplomat on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 227: Talking Teachers 08.01.2025

In this episode, we try to talk about our favorite fictional science teachers. Things that bring us joy this week: English Teacher Lee Movie Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 226: Caste(ing) Faculty 01.01.2025

This week we talk about the relationship between tenure track and teaching/clinical/non-tenure track faculty. Things that bring us joy this week: Red Rising by Pierce Brown Deacon King Kong by James McBride Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 225: Grades and Grace 25.12.2024

In this episode, we discuss student situations where grace may be needed. Things that bring us joy this week: Holiday Movies Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 224: Fear of Social Death 18.12.2024

This week we talk about the tension between knowing you need to let people talk through their own thinking and the fact that all learning opportunities have time constraints. Things that bring us joy this week: Sampson Boat Co. YouTube Channel Everyone This Christmas has a Secret by Benjamin Stevenson Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 223: Conferencing about Conferences 11.12.2024

In this episode, we discuss an upcoming conference presentation. Things that bring us joy this week: The Murderbot Diaries The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 222: Written Bold Predictions 04.12.2024

This week we talk about what the Department of Education does and what it means if it is weakened or eliminated. Things that bring us joy this week: Portugal (yes, the country) Tom Lake by Anne Patchett Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 221: It's Tricky 27.11.2024

In this episode, we discuss conducting observations with teacher candidates. Things that bring us joy this week: First Lie Wins by Ashley Elston Shrinking on AppleTV+ Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 220: Hard for Ollie to Say 20.11.2024

This week we talk about how we see and interpret the world is a lot about who we are and what our experiences have been all the way down to the data coming from our senses. [Alternative episode title: Old Man Illness Corner] Uexküll's Umwelt Things that bring us joy this week: Only Murders in the Building on Hulu Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

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