Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon

Science In-Between

This is a conversation about how science teaching can move between and connect different worlds.

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Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon

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Education

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Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 254: Going for the Corners 23.07.2025

This week we talk about assessing faculty in higher education and what it means to rate people on a scale. Satisfactory - fulfilling expectations or needs; acceptable, though not outstanding or perfect. Things that bring us joy this week: Watching tennis, specifically The Championships, Wimbeldon Cake (not the band) - an item of soft, sweet food made from a mixture of flour, shortening, eggs, suga...

Episode 253: Questioning Questions 16.07.2025

In this episode, we discuss questions that can be asked during dissertation defenses. Things that bring us joy this week: Broadchurch series Saga Compendium Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 252: Epistemic Apocalypse 09.07.2025

This week we talk about the knowledge system that is at the center of the way we think about learning and speculate what it will take to change it (and if AI is that thing). Things that bring us joy this week: Cameron Winter - Specifically Love Takes Miles Broken Harbor by Tana French Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 251: Book 'Em! 02.07.2025

In this episode, we talk about books about teachers and teaching. Things that bring us joy this week: The Bear - Season 4 Ottolenghi Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 250: Make America Competent Again 23.06.2025

This week we talk about the idea of what it means to be a competent outsider to science and how we prepare students to be one of those people. Feinstein, N. (2011). Salvaging science literacy. Science Education, 95(1), 168–185. https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.20414 Things that bring us joy this week: Beneath a Scarlet Sky by Mark T. Sullivan The Phoenician Scheme by Wes Anderson Intro/Outro Music: Not...

Episode 249: Going International 18.06.2025

In this episode, we discuss the nature of international students on US college campuses. We reference the following resource: Enrollment Trends from the Institute for International Education Things that bring us joy this week: Faithful Place by Tana French Preservation Hall Jazz Band Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 248: Negotiation Yoga 11.06.2025

This week we talk about negotiations and how they are like teaching. Things that bring us joy this week: Never Split the Difference: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It by Chris Voss and Tahl Raz Grilling Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 247: Sifting through SIFT 04.06.2025

In this episode, we talk about the SIFT model for media literacy. Things that bring us joy this week: The Message by Ta-Nehisi Coates The Likeness by Tana French Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 246: Stupid but Accurate 28.05.2025

This week we talk about how our labor in our communities can be a reflection of established patterns of privilege that can be treated as "the way we do things". Things that bring us joy this week: One by One by Freida McFadden Orphan X by Gregg Hurwitz Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 245: AI Alacrity 21.05.2025

In this episode, we discuss the AI Assessment Scale. Things that bring us joy this week: All Systems Red by Martha Wells Will & Harper Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 244: Not My Definition of Good 14.05.2025

This week we talk about how to work with teachers who may not want to change in the way that you want them to change. Things that bring us joy this week: Thunderbolts* Never Split the Difference:: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It by Chris Voss Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 243: Call Me Aquaticus! 07.05.2025

This week, we discuss a recent Radiolab episode and how important research and exploration are. Radiolab episode: The Age of Aquaticus Things that bring us joy this week: 50th Anniversary of Monty Python and the Holy Grail Four Seasons on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 242: Potentially Unstable Nuclear Ollie 30.04.2025

This week we talk about leadership, transparency, workload, and evaluation. Things that bring us joy this week: The Residence on Netflix Moulin Rouge! on Broadway or on film Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 241: Blowing Stuff Up 23.04.2025

In this episode, we discuss what a practice-based teacher education could look like. Things that bring us joy this week: Dirty Chai Song Exploder , especially the episodes with MJ Lenderman and Adrianne Lenker Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 240: WTF PCK 16.04.2025

This week we talk about Pedagogical Content Knowledge, all the related concepts it has spawned, and how those are or are not useful in moving our understanding of teaching forward. Things that bring us joy this week: Remarkable (a new gadget) Fixing things (particuarly 3D printing in this case) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 239: A Manifesto Party 09.04.2025

In this episode, we discuss A Sudent Manifesto for Assessment in the Age of AI from the London School of Economics and Political Science. Things that bring us joy this week: Red Rising saga from Pierce Brown The Audacy app Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 238: Certain about Uncertainty 02.04.2025

This week we talk about uncertainty and how important it is to good science teaching. Watkins, J., & Manz, E. (2022). Characterizing pedagogical decision points in sense-making conversations motivated by scientific uncertainty. Science Education, 106(6), 1408–1441. https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.21747 Things that bring us joy this week: Awesome Toes Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legall...

Episode 237: Golden Days? 26.03.2025

In this episode, we discuss when the "golden age" of education was. Things that bring us joy this week: Japanese Breakfast - For Melancholy Brunettes (& Sad Women) Severance on AppleTV+ Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 236: Life Gets in the Way 19.03.2025

This week we talk about relabeling practice with new teaching terms and how it is like what happens with students in science classrooms. Things that bring us joy this week: Baseball (Especially Spring Training with the Pittsburgh Pirates) Ireland (and Library St. if you are looking for a restuarant recommendation) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 235: Grouped Together 05.03.2025

In this episode, we talk about grouping in classroom environments. Things that bring us joy this week: James by Percival Everett Erotic Stories for Punjabi Widows by Balli Kaur Jaswal Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 234: Fast and Furious DOGE 26.02.2025

This week we talk about the firings and threats around defunding NSF, NIH, and capping indirect costs to Universities. Things that bring us joy this week: Conclave Say Nothing by Patrick Radden Keefe Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 233: Don't Be a Tourist 19.02.2025

In this episode, we revisit the topic of artificial intelligence and discuss how it is being integrated into classwork. Things that bring us joy this week: My Old Ass White Lotus Season 3 Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 232: Face Full of Morning Ollie 12.02.2025

This week we talk about the keynote I am delivering at Pennsylvania Educational Technology Expo and Conference (PETE&C) STEELS Summit. Things that bring us joy this week: Paradise on Hulu Hirshhorn Museum in the Simthsonian Institute Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 231: Heading Home 05.02.2025

In this episode, we discuss homework. Things that bring us joy this week: Paul Krugman on Substack AI Snake Oil Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

Episode 230: Is a Hot Dog a Sandwich 29.01.2025

This week we negotiate the meaning of negotiation of meaning and what kind of talk that means. Things that bring us joy this week: The Last Showgirl Anatomy of a Fall Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind

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