Michael Max
Qiological Podcast
Acupuncture and East Asian medicine was not developed in a laboratory. It does not advance through double-blind controlled studies, nor does it respond well to petri dish experimentation. Our medicine did not come from the statistical regression of randomized cohorts, but from the observation and treatment of individuals in their particular environment. It grows out of an embodied sense of understanding how life moves, unfolds, develops and declines. Medicine comes from continuous, thoughtful practice of what we do in clinic, and how we approach that work. The practice of medicine is more — mu...
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468 The Challenge of Chinese Medicine • Alex Jacobs 07.07.2026 1:34:25
As acupuncture and Chinese medicine face regulatory pressure and institutional change on both sides of the Atlantic, many practitioners are asking what it takes to preserve the tradition while still being taken seriously as medical professionals. In this conversation, we visit with Alex Jacobs, CEO of the British Acupuncture Council, we explore the relationship between tradition and regulation, an...
467 History Series, Rebellious Empirical Scientists Pt. 2 • Bill Prensky & Gene Bruno 30.06.2026 52:40
Part Two How does a profession begin? Not on paper. Not with licensing boards or schools. Often enough, it starts with a handful of curious people who become convinced there's another way to do things. Part determination, part serendipity, and perhaps a good measure of luck. Bill Prensky and Gene Bruno were there before acupuncture had a place in American healthcare. In the wake of the Vietnam War...
467 History Series, Rebellious Empirical Scientists Pt. 1 • Bill Prensky & Gene Bruno 30.06.2026 1:38:33
Part One. How does a profession begin? Not on paper. Not with licensing boards or schools. Often enough, it starts with a handful of curious people who become convinced there's another way to do things. Part determination, part serendipity, and perhaps a good measure of luck. Bill Prensky and Gene Bruno were there before acupuncture had a place in American healthcare. In the wake of the Vietnam Wa...
The Cost of Entry—Loans, Schools, and Sustainability • Bex Groebner 25.06.2026 2:00:54
It’s not news that there are changes afoot in the world of education. You’re probably already well aware of the closure, over the past few years, of schools with a long history. There are concerns with loan debt that have been an issue since Obama was president. Most recently, the changes to student loans that not only fundamentally affect the acupuncture trade, but will change the landscape for g...
466 Not Two, The Geometry of Heaven and Earth • Johan Hausen 23.06.2026 1:28:25
Some teachings are preserved in books. Others are preserved in people. In this episode we visit with Johann Hausen, translator, publisher, practitioner, and long-time student of Daoist traditions in the Wudang Mountains. What begins with martial arts and Chinese medicine quickly opens into a wider conversation about cultivation, character, and the responsibility of carrying knowledge forward. We e...
Deconstruction or Innovation • Valerie Hobbs 18.06.2026 1:26:48
We tend to think of the acupuncture profession as something fixed and stable, but the reality is that it is always in motion. The practice of East Asian medicine in North America has been shaped by decades of effort—by practitioners, educators, regulators, and advocates working to create a place for this medicine in the American healthcare system. In this conversation with Valerie Hobbs, we take a...
465 Fire and Water, The Fire Horse at Mid-Year • Christine Cannon 16.06.2026 1:31:24
As the Fire Horse year reaches its peak, many practitioners are noticing shifts in both the environment and the clinic. In this conversation with Christine Cannon, we explore the interaction of fire and water through the lens of Wu Yun Liu Qi, and how these energies may be influencing respiratory health, anxiety, fatigue, and emotional resilience. We also discuss the importance of protecting Wei Q...
What is Essential • Kathleen Lumiere 11.06.2026 1:00:41
What if the very things that seem to be pulling our profession apart are actually the forces that will finally condense it into something more resilient? We’re in a moment of choppy waters—school closures, shrinking enrollment, and a shifting financial landscape—where the successes of what have brought us to this moment will not take us into the future. . In this conversation with Kathleen Lumiere...
464 Time, Timing and the Timeless • Peter Firebrace 09.06.2026 1:36:25
Many of us experience life through schedules, deadlines, and calendars, yet beneath them are deeper patterns that shape how we grow, adapt, heal, and change. In this conversation with Peter Firebrace, we explore Chinese perspectives on time, timing, and the timeless. Through seasonal cycles, the Chinese calendar, and the rhythms observed in nature, we look at how a deeper awareness of time can inf...
Realities of the Math • Ryan Hofer 04.06.2026 1:18:39
We’re at a moment where the structure of loans and professional education is changing. Not just for the acupuncture profession, but across the entire educational landscape. While it seems the storm has suddenly blown in, it’s been brewing for a while. In this conversation with Ryan Hofer we discuss the reality of Grad Plus loans, the true cost of them in terms of the interest they generate, and wh...
463 Complexity, Boundaries and Biomes • Neil Theise 02.06.2026 1:27:45
Clinical practice asks us to recognise patterns, trust experience, and make decisions under uncertainty. But what happens when discovery comes not from certainty, but from staying open to surprise? Dr. Neil Theise is a liver pathologist, stem cell researcher, Zen practitioner, and one of the scientists behind the discovery of the interstitium. In this conversation, he joins Michael to explore the...
Reckoning the Present, Wayfinding the Future • Danielle Reghi 28.05.2026 1:55:27
The acupuncture and East Asian profession is facing a number of critical challenges as long-established schools close, new federal guidelines on graduate education loans will dramatically change how much students can borrow, and fewer students consider a career as an acupuncturist. How to wayfind through these troubled times? That is the question explored in this series with practitioners, researc...
462 History Series: When Resistance Strengthens Tradition • James Flowers 26.05.2026 1:23:34
Medicine is never only about treatment. It also carries culture, identity, and memory. Sometimes preserving a medicine is a way of preserving a people. In this episode we visit with James Flowers to explore a potent moment in the history of Korean medicine and how Hanbang became part of Korea’s cultural resistance during the Japanese colonization. Not through politics or violence, but through pres...
461 Neurology, Concussion and the Curious Organ of Chinese Medicine • Clayton Shiu & Ayla Wolf 19.05.2026 1:24:30
Often what brings someone into our office looks straightforward at first—a concussion, dizziness, headache, or a sense that something is not quite right. But what begins as the search to fix a symptom often reveals something deeper—a nervous system that has lost its bearings, sensory maps that no longer line up, and a body quietly adapting around signals it can no longer fully trust. Ayla Wolf and...
460 Using Chinese Medicine to Treat Alpha-Gal • Rebecca Chrestman 12.05.2026 1:03:35
We often think of allergies as simple reactions, but some conditions reveal a far deeper conversation between the immune system, environment, and daily life—one that evolves with every exposure. In this conversation with Rebecca Chrestman, we explore Alpha-Gal syndrome through both modern understanding and Chinese medicine, looking at how patterns like damp heat and spleen imbalance help make sens...
459 Wandering Into Saam- History, Premodern Medicine & The Power of Four Needles • Philip Suger & Michael Brown 05.05.2026 1:21:37
What makes a system feel trustworthy—results, lineage, or the way it brings you into the resonance of what’s happening? Philip Suger didn’t start with Saam acupuncture. He was in Beijing in 2010, following a thread that led him to Wang Ju-Yi and channel palpation—hands on the body, feeling where things change and where they resolve. Later, back in the States, he found himself working with patients...
458 History Series - What a long strange trip it's been • Jeffrey Dann 28.04.2026 1:08:01
The path into acupuncture isn’t always clean or linear—sometimes it begins in the grit and confusion of working out just who you are in this world. From anthropology studies in Seattle’s Skid Row to the disciplined intensity of kendo in Japan, Jeffrey Dann’s journey was shaped by curiosity, discomfort, and a search for something deeper. A knee injury, a moment on a subway, and an unexpected recove...
457 Apprentice to Curiosity • Arnie Lade 21.04.2026 1:09:37
Points don’t really have a number, they have a name. They are not just a function, they embody characteristics and relationships. In this episode I get to sit for a conversation with Arnie Lade. He’s the author of a book I spent a lot of time with in the library when I was in acupuncture school. Acupuncture Points: Images and Functions wasn’t a book I read to pass exams, it was one I read to get a...
456 Something About Slowing Down • Sue Crites 14.04.2026 1:11:35
In practice, healing often begins with seeking a solution to a problem that has us looking for help. What first looks like a search for relief becomes an encounter with something wider: the patterns of striving, the habits of attention, and the quiet ways body, mind, and spirit reorganise when we slow down enough to notice. Sue Crites is a qigong teacher with a background in ecological science, ho...
455 Psychoacoustics, Healing Frequencies and the Songs of Plants • Yuval Ron • Rick Gold 07.04.2026 1:16:39
Some projects kick off with a business plan. Others begin as a response to an odd little ad in the back of a magazine, or sparked by following a hunch. When you think about it, this is often how the interesting work begins—not with certainty, but with curiosity and enough craft and gumption to stay with the question. This conversation with Rick Gold and Yuval Ron moves through the strange and incr...
454 History Series- You Have to Start with Imagination • Holly Guzman 31.03.2026 1:07:04
We all find our own unique way into the practice of East Asian medicine. It’s part luck, part dogged curiosity and persistence, and sometimes a bit of fate. In this conversation with Holly Guzman, we wander through her circuitous route into the medicine—from knocking on the door of the Chinese embassy in Kabul, to hanging out at a bookstore in San Francisco, waiting to see who might pick up the on...
453 Dry Needling, Tensegrity, and the Challenges of Integration • Darren Maynard 24.03.2026 1:19:40
Sports medicine acupuncture is one of those phrases that sounds neat and tidy. But, what does it actually mean?. In this conversation with Darren Maynard, dig into the complexity and methods that fall within the world of orthopedic and musculo-skeletal medicine. We explore what it means to be bilingual in clinic, and the value of being able to hold a Chinese medicine diagnosis and a Western ortho...
452 Perspectives on the Mingmen • Anne Shelton Crute, Thomas Sørensen, Z'ev Rosenberg 17.03.2026 1:31:52
Some concepts in Chinese medicine don’t need more poetry. They need a hands-on palpable marker, and a willingness to admit, “I think I get it… and then the light changes and I can’t see it.” That’s the territory we’re in with the Ming Men—the so‑called Gate of Destiny, the fire that isn’t just heat, the thing we can discuss over the centuries and still not be sure about when meeting it again on Tu...
451 Zang Fu Tuina and the Microbiome • Henry Tarazona 10.03.2026 1:23:25
We no longer pretend the gut and the mind are separate; we know the interconnections are vast and rich. Furthermore, their communication isn’t a hack—it’s a relationship that responds to your input, and it’s something you can actually touch. In this conversation with Henry Tarazona, we hear about his unlikely path into Chinese medicine—his love of tuina, and how he uses it to affect organ function...
450 The Fire is Unavoidable • Haunani Chong Drake 03.03.2026 1:51:16
Sometimes the people who shape us most aren’t the ones who formally taught us anything. They’re the people in a potent moment who say something that we hear with something other than our ears— it sends us down a path we hadn't noticed that was right under our feet. In this conversation with Haunani Chong-Drake, we explore the edges of mentorship—not as a program, credential, or transaction, but as...
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