Brought to you by Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon
PMP Industry Insiders
Dan Gordon (PCO Bookkeepers) and Donnie Shelton (Triangle Home Services) will be sharing industry news and hosting other industry leaders to tell their stories and share expertise. Topics in this podcast will focus on maximizing revenue and growth for your pest control business.
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 174: Lawn Care Issues Update 25.04.2024 45:00
On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome back Andrew Bray, senior vice president of government relations & membership for the National Association of Landscape Professionals, to discuss top-of-mind issues on the lawn care side of the business. They cover the Farm Bill's significance, state preemption of local pesticide laws, election year scenarios, overtime pay and other regulatory concerns. ...
Episode 173: Optimize Your Organizational Health with Patrick Lencioni 18.04.2024 50:32
Join Dan and Donnie for an energizing episode with best-selling author Patrick Lencioni, the mastermind behind "The 5 Dysfunctions of a Team" and "The Advantage." They dive into the dysfunctions, three three essential traits of exceptional team players and how to get more out of meetings. Patrick also shares details about his latest book and concept, "The 6 Types of Working Genius." Guest: Patr...
Episode 172: The Economy Here & Now 11.04.2024 43:13
On this episode, Dan and Donnie review some of their recent predictions about the economy and whether or not they were correct. They also cover economic positives and negatives, trends to consider in the near term, and tips for pest and lawn companies. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 171: What's on Deck for PPMA 04.04.2024 41:51
Jim Fredericks, Ph. D. is back on the podcast to share the latest Professional Pest Management Alliance initiatives and what's coming down the pike. They cover large-scale projects, media coverage, the benefits of investing in PPMA and other ways the organization is growing and protecting the industry. Guest: Jim Fredericks, Ph. D., Senior VP of Public Affairs of NPMA and Executive Director of P...
Episode 170: Say THIS, Not THAT: Mastering Customer Phone Calls 28.03.2024 35:46
In this episode, Margaret Garcia, president of Grit PPO, joins Dan and Donnie to share her expertise in pest control customer service. She covers how to take control of a phone call, the importance of tone, words to avoid, what to say instead, why call scripts work and more. Guest: Margaret Garcia, President, Grit PPO Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelt...
Episode 169: From Zero to $100 Million+ 21.03.2024 45:48
Hawx Pest Control Co-founder Matt Mehr walks Dan and Donnie through how he and his partners have built a nine-figure enterprise from scratch. He discusses how his door-to-door business has evolved using data and proprietary technology, what it's like to get a private equity infusion and key metrics they're focusing on to continue to scale up. Guest: Matt Mehr, Co-founder, Hawx Pest Control Hos...
Episode 168: Customer Reviews: Do's & Don'ts 14.03.2024 42:17
In this episode, Dan and Donnie cover why online reviews are so critical in the pest control and lawn care industry and what you can do to up your review game. They go into the psychology of consumer reviews, Google's policies, how to get more reviews and tactics to avoid. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 167: Is Work From Home Dead? 07.03.2024 38:57
On this episode, Dan and Donnie ask whether there is still a place for allowing some staff to work from home in the service industry. They discuss the effect on productivity, culture, communication and client relationships, and they brainstorm ways to mitigate the downsides of WFH. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 166: Q&A with an AI Expert 29.02.2024 42:03
Dan & Donnie quiz AI consultant Andrew Louder about implementing AI in your business. They cover writing effective prompts, AI tools to consider and potential opportunities for the pest management industry, including marketing, operations and beyond. Guest: Andrew Louder, Founder, Louder Co. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Ser...
Episode 165: How To Be Better Than Average In Pest & Lawn 22.02.2024 41:42
In response to a social media post debating the importance of understanding industry averages, Dan and Donnie discuss the power of benchmarking. They delve into the concept of leadership capital, goal setting and using benchmarks as a starting point to become a better-than-average pest control or lawn care company. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Tr...
Episode 164: The Single Biggest Marketing Mistake & How to Avoid It 15.02.2024 38:12
On this episode, Dan and Donnie delve into the importance of nailing your marketing messaging. They cover how to improve your positioning in the marketplace and why you must differentiate your company from the competition. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 163: The People Component of EOS 08.02.2024 41:38
Sharon Roebuck-McBride, VP of Culture and Customer Experience for Triangle Home Services, is back on the podcast to discuss the people component of EOS and what pest control and lawn care professionals can learn from it. Guests: Sharon Roebuck-McBride, VP of Culture and Customer Experience, Triangle Home Services Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, ...
Episode 162: Get the Most Out of a Selling Technician 01.02.2024 40:00
Veteran sales consultant Patrick Quigley joins Dan and Donnie to discuss how to develop selling technicians. He covers different types of techs and salespeople, the concept of "drop-dead pests" and steps to take to cultivate technicians who sell in your company. Guests: Patrick Quigley, president of Sales Training by Design Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donni...
Episode 161: Signs You Might Need a Culture Change 25.01.2024 48:12
What is company culture? How do you know if yours is effective or ineffective? On this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss how they think about culture in pest control and lawn care companies and how to approach a culture change if you need one. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 160: Reviewing '23, Planning for '24 18.01.2024 40:16
Description: On this episode, Dan and Donnie reflect on 2023 from an economic and trend standpoint. They cover the Pest Index, the Rollins Q3 earnings call, marketing, M&A, and they look ahead to 2024 and beyond. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 159: Home Service Industry Roll Ups & What It Means for You 11.01.2024 42:15
On this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss the status of private equity firms rolling up companies in the pest control, lawn care and home services industries. They cover why it's happening, how it's different from other roll ups in the past and the end game for these firms. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 158: Pest Control Insurance Market Update 04.01.2024 45:46
PestSure's Todd Burke gives us an inside look at various areas of the pest control insurance market. We cover what PMPs should know, price increases, questions to ask before your next renewal, and ways to limit your exposure. Guest: Todd Burke, COO PestSure Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 157: Developing Your Leadership Bench 21.12.2023 52:25
Many pest and lawn businesses are great at training technicians but neglect to develop their leaders. On this episode, pest control industry veteran and consultant David Billingsly discusses the building blocks of leadership and how to set your company's leaders up for success. Guest: David Billingsly, The Billingsly Group Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Sh...
Episode 156 - 9 Levers to Control Labor Costs 14.12.2023 48:41
On this episode, Dan reviews an exclusive labor inflation study he conducted and wrote about for Pest Management Professional magazine's December 2023 cover story. Then, he and Donnie discuss tactics you can implement to reduce turnover and create a positive, productive work environment for your team members. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangl...
Episode 155: How to Leverage AI in 2024 07.12.2023 53:33
On this episode, Dan and Donnie revisit the rapidly changing topic of artificial intelligence (AI) in business. They dive into how AI works and applications for the pest control and lawn care industry. They also speculate about what's going on in the AI world. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 154: Why to Host a State of the Company Meeting 30.11.2023 52:25
At Triangle Pest Control, Donnie is a big fan of hosting "state of the company" meetings. On this episode, he and Dan discuss why these meetings are a great tool and how to go about planning and executing them in a pest control or lawn care company. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 153: How to Craft a Successful Transition 16.11.2023 48:28
Fox Pest Control Co-Founders Mike Romney and Bryant White join the podcast to discuss the keys to scaling their company from $0 to $120 million before selling to Rollins earlier this year. They also cover their exit-planning advice for other owners. Guests: Mike Romney & Bryant White, Co-Founders, Fox Pest Control Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelto...
Episode 152: The Difference Between Information & Insight 09.11.2023 43:03
It's easy to be overwhelmed by the quantity of data available to you in your pest or lawn business. On this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss how to ensure you're working with good data, why to focus on key industry KPIs and how to use these insights to improve your business. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 151: How to Build a D2D Team 02.11.2023 37:08
Being a successful door-to-door (D2D) company in the pest control and lawn care industries begins with your ability to hire sales reps. Stephen Rhyne, CEO of ConveYour, joins the podcast to share tips for recruiting, onboarding, training and retaining salespeople. Guest: Stephen Rhyne, CEO, ConveYour Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Service...
Episode 150: Lawn Care Wisdom with Joe Kucik 26.10.2023 41:48
Lawn care industry icon Joe Kucik joins the podcast to share the wisdom he's gathered from decades of experience as an operator and as founder of Real Green Systems. He shares what he's up to now, where the industry is headed and what advice he'd give his younger self. Guest: Joe Kucik, co-chairman of ExperiGreen & founder of Real Green Systems Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers &...
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