Brought to you by Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon
PMP Industry Insiders
Dan Gordon (PCO Bookkeepers) and Donnie Shelton (Triangle Home Services) will be sharing industry news and hosting other industry leaders to tell their stories and share expertise. Topics in this podcast will focus on maximizing revenue and growth for your pest control business.
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 199: The Critical Role of Due Diligence in Pest Control M&A 24.10.2024 45:57
On this episode, Donnie and Dan discuss the intricacies of the due diligence process in pest and lawn mergers and acquisitions. They explore the perspectives of both buyers and sellers and review the three major work streams in due diligence: legal, operational and financial. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 198: Q&A: Listener Mailbag 17.10.2024 44:37
On this episode, Donnie and Dan walk through answers to recent questions they've received from podcast listeners. Topics include tracking your critical number, how to develop your leadership skills, the best business advice they've ever received, customer service training and more. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 197: End-of-Season Wrap-Up 10.10.2024 40:49
With the busy season behind us, Dan and Donnie dive into the state of the market. From economic factors like inflation and interest rates to industry-specific trends, they break it all down and give you the insights you need to finish the year strong. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 196: Turning Around a Pest Control Business 03.10.2024 39:06
On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Steve Durham, former owner of EnviroCon Pest in Tomball, Texas. He explains how he successfully transformed his company by moving to a recurring revenue model. Steve talks about the discipline required to get away from one-time work, move to auto billing, transition to triennial service — and ultimately exit. Guests: Steve Durham, former owner, EnviroCon...
Episode 195: PestWorld 2024 Preview 26.09.2024 29:47
On this episode, NPMA's CEO Dominique Stumpf joins Dan and Donnie to discuss what's new at the association and what PMPs can expect from PestWorld 2024. Highlights include a nearly sold out exhibit hall, an improved first-timers experience, a new initiative called NPMA Basecamp, featuring fireside chats and opportunities for attendees to learn and engage with leaders, and more. Guest: Dominique...
Episode 194: How to Fuel Growth by Reducing Taxes 19.09.2024 30:36
On this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss smart strategies pest control operators can use to fund their growth by reducing taxes. They cover tax rate basics, accelerated depreciation, the importance of tax planning and other tactics for reinvesting tax savings into your business to scale and improve the value of your business long-term. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialis...
Episode 193: The Blueprint for a Dream Workplace 12.09.2024 41:37
Trent and Amanda Ragar, owners of Natural State Pest & Lawn in Lowell, Ark., join Dan and Donnie to discuss their efforts to build a great workplace, including programs they use and activities they do to foster employee engagement. Natural State was recently named to PCT's 2024 Best Places to Work rankings in the medium employer category. Guest: Trent & Amanda Ragar, Owners, Natural Sta...
Episode 192: From Lead to Lifetime Customer: Transforming Sales in Pest Control 05.09.2024 37:34
On this episode, Sheri Spencer Bachman shares her journey from second-generation PMP to founding her consulting firm, Pest Control Business Coach. She discusses best practices for developing salespeople, including training, role playing, tracking and more. Guests: Sheri Spencer Bachman, Owner, Pest Control Business Coach Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie She...
Episode 191: AI in Action: Enhancing Pest & Lawn Call Centers 29.08.2024 41:51
Pest control industry veteran Raymond Kidwell, Director of Business Development at Voice for Pest, joins the podcast to discuss AI's potential to enhance customer service and call center operations in the pest and lawn industries. He explores the benefits of AI-powered phone systems, such as call monitoring and scoring, and he addresses the limitations at this stage in the game. Guest: Raymond...
Episode 190: Journey of a Pest Control CEO 22.08.2024 44:06
On this episode, Certus Pest CEO Dave Bradford joins Dan and Donnie. He shares insights on the importance of employee and customer retention, data visibility and long-term value creation. They also cover growth opportunities for Certus and the company's unique approach to evaluating branch performance. Guest: Dave Bradford, CEO, Certus Pest Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Spec...
Episode 189: Meta Marketing: What Makes a Great Facebook & Instagram Ad? 15.08.2024 43:49
James Szojka, co-founder of Yard Dawgs in Calgary, Alberta, joins Dan and Donnie to share his experiences and strategies for using social media ads to market his lawn care company, emphasizing the importance of tracking lead sources and continuously testing and optimizing ads. He covers the difference between ads on Facebook and Instagram compared with Google, how to approach lawn care vs. pest co...
Episode 188: When Private Equity Comes Calling: Navigating the PE Acquisition Process 08.08.2024 39:28
As a pest or lawn business owner, it can be exciting to get your first call from a private equity firm. But it also raises many questions. Why are they contacting you now? How should you handle the call? Should you even take it? On this episode, Dan and Donnie answer these questions and other things to consider about partnering with private equity. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&am...
Episode 187: Revolutionizing Search for Businesses: What You Need to Know About Search GPT 01.08.2024 39:18
On this episode, Dan and Donnie explore the impact of AI-powered search engines on pest and lawn businesses. They discuss the shift from optimizing for search engines to focusing on user intent, emphasizing the importance of natural language processing and conversational AI integration. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 186: The Power of One: Harnessing the 'One Number' to Drive Business Growth 25.07.2024 28:47
On this episode, Dan and Donnie dive into Donnie's efforts to boil down team members' effectiveness to a single metric. Inspired by his experience as a pilot, Donnie shares how he is evaluating critical results to communicate clearly and ensure quality and excellence at Triangle Home Services. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 185: 8 Critical Factors for Profitability in Pest & Businesses 18.07.2024 41:37
Description: On this episode, Dan and Donnie share eight factors that can help you create a sustainable, thriving pest or lawn business and achieve a healthy bottom line. Dan details a list of useful operational ratios and gives an accountant's view on them, while Donnie gives an operator's perspective. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Hom...
Episode 184: GPT-4o: Unleashing Its Power for Your Business 11.07.2024 29:55
On this episode, Dan and Donnie review GPT-4o — OpenAI's latest artificial intelligence model. They cover how the algorithm is different from previous models, why that matters and how you can use it in your pest or lawn business. Donnie also demonstrates how to use it for data analysis, so be sure to check out the video version of this episode at youtube.com/@pmpindustryinsiders . Hosts: Dan G...
Episode 183: Review Generation & Its Impact on Your Growth 27.06.2024 40:32
Coalmarch's Christin Nein joins the podcast to share her expertise on the always important topic of generating customer reviews. She covers why reviews matter, how to generate more reviews, how to make sure you get the right reviews and what to do if you get a negative review. Guest: Christin Nein, Sr. Director, Product Development, Coalmarch by Workwave Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers &a...
Episode 182: Fly On The Wall: What We're Hearing in Peer Group Meetings 20.06.2024 45:52
David Billingsly, president and founder of The Billingsly Group, gives the inside scoop about what he's hearing as the facilitator of the PMP Industry Insiders Peer Groups, including insights on the economy, pricing, routing and AI. David also discusses how the groups are going so far and goals for the future. Guest: David Billingsly, President & Founder, The Billingsly Group Hosts: Dan G...
Episode 181 - 6 Keys to Customer-Centric Innovation 13.06.2024 39:49
On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Dr. Cassie Krejci Ph. D., Head of Science & Innovation, North America, for Rentokil Initial — better known as the Bug Doc. She updates us on Rentokil's new North American Innovation Center, details her six points of customer innovation and shares four ways she leverages social media to raise the profile of the pest control industry. Guest: Dr. Cassie...
Episode 180: Google AI Overview: The Next Frontier of Digital Marketing 06.06.2024 40:51
On this episode, Dan and Donnie break down Google's new AI-powered tool, formerly known as Google SGE. They cover why the search giant is rolling it out, how it works and what you need to know about it to market your pest control or lawn care company more effectively. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 179: 3 New Regulations Employers Need to Know 30.05.2024 55:29
HR expert Jean Seawright is back to discuss the latest federal regulations that affect employers, including pest control and lawn care companies. Tune in to hear what you need to know about three new rules that pertain to independent contractors, overtime pay and noncompete agreements. Guest: Jean Seawright, President, Seawright & Associates Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&...
Episode 178: Protecting the Future of Pest Management 23.05.2024 43:14
JD Darr, Director of Legislative and Regulatory Affairs for the National Pest Management Association, joins Dan and Donnie on this episode to share the legislative and regulatory issues on NPMA members’ minds. He also covers the importance of using your voice to influence public policy and what you can expect when you attend a Legislative Day event. Guests: JD Darr, Director, Legislative and Regu...
Episode 177: What To Do About Distracted Driving 16.05.2024 41:10
Distracted driving is on the rise, driving up auto insurance claims and increasing exposure for pest control companies. PestSure's Director of Safety Linda Midyett joins Dan and Donnie to discuss the problem and the most important things PMPs can do to fix it and control costs. Guests: Linda Midyett, Director of Safety, PestSure Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists D...
Episode 176: Optimizing Your Taxes as a PMP 09.05.2024 40:52
On the heels of tax season, Dan Gordon & Donnie Shelton review common questions pest control company owners have about optimizing their taxes. They discuss filing extensions, avoiding penalties, tracking expenses and claiming tax credits, among other FAQs. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
Episode 175: Rentokil's Leaders Talk Growth Strategy 02.05.2024 49:01
Join Dan and Donnie as they welcome Rentokil's John Myers and Brad Paulsen to the podcast. John shares the leadership lessons he's learned during Rentokil's period of explosive growth, Brad discusses the firm's The Right Way 2 Growth Plan, plus they cover the Terminix integration, M&A prospects, and much more. Guests: John Myers, CEO of U.S. Pest Control, & Brad Paulsen, CEO of North Am...
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