Rebekah Bernard MD and Niran Al-Agba MD
Patients at Risk
Patients at Risk exposes the political maneuvering and corporate greed that has led to the replacement of physicians by lesser trained practitioners, including nurse practitioners and physician assistants. As corporations seek to save money and government agencies aim to increase constituent access, minimum qualifications for our nation’s healthcare guardians continue to decline—with deadly consequences. This is a story that has not yet been told, and one that has dangerous repercussions for all Americans.
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Rebekah Bernard MD and Niran Al-Agba MD
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May 16, 2026
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Episodes
Shocking urgent care study: 64% wrong diagnosis 16.05.2026 22:56
Most urgent cares are staffed by NPs/PAs, often without physician supervision - can you trust them with your life? Dr. John Lafferty shares details from a study showing that of 300 referrals from urgent cares to the ER, 55% were unnecessary and 64% resulted in a 'discordant' (different) diagnosis. "Our data found that 55% of patients referred to EDs from UCCs did not require ED-spec...
NP advocates testify in Florida for unsupervised practice rights in psychiatry 17.02.2026 36:01
When we think of potentially vulnerable patients, it just doesn't get riskier than those with mental health conditions, especially children. Yet, psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners are seeking the right to care for patients 'across the lifespan'--including those with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and addiction--without physician oversight. Listen in on testimony in Fl...
South Carolina Medical Association fights to ensure patient access to physician-led care 18.01.2026 34:32
South Carolina Medical Association (SCMA) immediate past president Mayes DuBose, MD and Vice President of Advocacy and Policy Counsel Holly Pisarik discuss efforts that the association has led in fighting bills that would allow unsupervised practice rights to NPs and PAs after just 2,000 hours of clinical hour experience - and let PAs switch specialties after just 1,000 hours. https://www.scmedica...
The 'P-word': Taking the No Provider Pledge 26.12.2025 35:46
Dr. Robert McLean, former President of the American College of Physicians discusses the negative impact of the word provider, and encourages all physicians to take the 'No Provider Pledge.' PhysiciansForPatientProtection.org
Rural Health Transformation Funding being used to justify NP/PA scope expansion - and PPP response to FTC letter of support 12.11.2025 24:10
Dr. Phil Shaffer and I are back in SC to testify yet again against a bill that would permit unsupervised NP and PA practice after 2,000 hours of experience. In this episode, I share subcommittee chair Senator Tom Davis's perspectives that SC will lose funding from the Rural Health Transformation project without scope expansion. You'll also hear a letter of support from the FTC Office of...
Powerful patient testimony to Senate committee about importance of physician-led care 18.10.2025 14:59
7 year old Betty Wattenbarger died hours after being evaluated by a pediatric nurse practitioner at a pediatric urgent care in Texas. Her father testifies to the Texas Legislature about his experience seeking accountability from the Board of Nursing and why he believes physician-led care matters for patient safety. Patients at risk video interview with Jeremy Wattenbarger Part 1 - https://youtu.b...
Drs. Bernard and Shaffer testify before the South Carolina Legislature on scope of practice 13.09.2025 33:55
The South Carolina Legislature has introduced bills that would allow unsupervised practice to nurse practitioners and physician assistants after 2000 hours of experience, as well as a bill that would expand pharmacist privileges. On the flip side, there's also a bill that would enhance team-based care, ensuring that physicians remain in the lead of medical care and strengthening requirements...
25 patients harmed and one dies after nurse permitted to perform ERCPs 18.08.2025 26:04
One patient died and 25 others were found to have been harmed when a nurse was permitted to perform complex medical procedures in the UK. Gastroenterologist Dr. Kaveh Hoda joins me to discuss the necessary training to perform an endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography (ERCP), a procedure most commonly used to remove gallstones. From the BBC article: 68 patients underwent ERCPs with a &apos...
A daughter's heartbreak: "My father died when an NP missed his pulmonary embolus" 14.07.2025 33:17
In this episode of 'Patients at Risk,' Angie Pereira shares the heartbreaking story of losing her father due to a misdiagnosed pulmonary embolism by a nurse practitioner in an after-hours clinic. Despite her father's presenting symptoms of shortness of breath and leg pain, strong family history of blood clots, and normal lung exam, the nurse practitioner diagnosed him with pneumonia...
BONUS EPISODE: Webinar on NP/ PA Unsupervised Practice of Medicine (UPM) Legislative Trends 27.06.2025 38:12
Rebekah Bernard discusses the legislative trends and impacts of allowing non-physician practitioners (NPs and PAs) to practice medicine unsupervised. She highlights the extensive training and hours required for physicians compared to the significantly less training for NPs and PAs. Bernard explains how legislative changes have allowed NPs and PAs to practice independently in many states, often wit...
"My NP education was not designed for independent practice": From RN to NP to Physician 18.06.2025 36:25
Dr. Denise Weiss always wanted to be a physician, but circumstances led her into nursing. She earned an associate's degree as a registered nurse, and then became a family nurse practitioner. After several years of practice, she realized that her education had not prepared her for independent practice, and she decided to return to school to become a physician. Now a practicing anesthesiologist...
"I have permanent nerve damage after filler by a RN - and the Board of Nursing did nothing about it" 27.05.2025 26:14
A patient shares her story of receiving the wrong type of filler into her face by a registered nurse, leading to severe and permanent nerve damage. Francesca explains that the RN, who was in NP school at the time, was not being supervised, and worked in a for-profit clinic owned by a non-physician. While some may argue, "Let the Buyer Beware," Francesca believes that patients are not be...
AAPA survey claims that physicians support PA independent practice 22.04.2025 31:39
In February 2025, the AAPA published a press release entitled: 'AAPA Releases Survey Showing Physician Support for Removing Barriers to PA Practice.' According to AAPA President Jason Prevelige (DMSc, MBA, PA-C, DFAAPA), the survey proved that, “Physicians recognize the need for change. It’s time to modernize these laws so healthcare teams can focus on what matters most, patient care.”...
New study: 7.4% of EDs are staffed by NP/PAs with NO physician on-site 31.03.2025 35:10
Emergency physician Dr. Deborah Fletcher is an author of the first study to evaluate physician presence in Emergency Departments across the country. She discusses the findings, including that 7.4% of all EDs have NO physician on-site, and of those, 3% have no ability for the NP/PA staffing the ED to discuss patient care with a physician. Emergency physician Dr. Mercy Hylton discusses the dangers o...
CDC considers allowing NP/PAs to read complex x-rays: Pulmonologist explains the dangers 24.02.2025 31:34
Pulmonologist / Intensivist Gary Dudek, MD, joins me to discuss the CDC's call for comments regarding allowing nurse practitioners and physician assistants to become National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) 'B Readers'. B-Readers are highly trained radiologists (medical school graduates with at least five years of residency as well as additional training in thi...
Regaining Patient Trust: The Importance of Physician Advocacy 06.02.2025 30:30
Susan J. Baumgaertel, MD FACP, an internal medicine physician, author, patient advocate, and ally to colleagues discusses how physicians can fight for patients. Trust in physicians has plummeted in the last few years (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2821693), making it more and more difficult for doctors to do their jobs, and potentially leading to a negative impact on...
What we can learn from legislator questions on scope of practice 16.01.2025 26:03
On September 17, 2024, the Texas Senate Health and Human Services Committee held an interim hearing on scope of practice expansion for nurse practitioners and other clinicians. In this third episode related to that hearing, Texas Medical Association (TMA) president Ray Callas MD discusses the importance of physician oversight for nonphysician practitioners and answers questions from legislators. I...
Texas Scope of Practice Hearing Part 2: NP testimony 08.12.2024 36:43
In the last episode, you heard some of my testimony at the Texas Interim Legislature hearing on Scope of Practice. Today you're going to hear from a nurse practitioner, Holly Jeffries, who is practicing in rural Texas. Her testimony was particularly impactful and really quite persuasive to legislators. I think it's important to understand the NP point of view and also learn the concerns...
Scope of Practice testimony at the Texas Legislature: Part 1 (Economic Impact) 17.11.2024 26:26
On September 17, 2024, the Texas Senate Health and Human Services Committee held an interim hearing on scope of practice expansion for nurse practitioners and other clinicians. The Texas Medical Association (TMA) invited Rebekah Bernard, MD to testify regarding the economic impact of NP independence. In part 1 of this series, we hear the NP expert witness, economist Alicia Plemons, followed by Dr....
The blind leading the blind? New NP gets bad advice from other NPs on Facebook 24.10.2024 36:33
Christopher Garofolo, MD, unpacks the many errors shared by a more seasoned NP to a brand new NP seeking advice on a Facebook post. Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/Imposter-Doctors-Patients-at-Risk/dp/1627344438/ PhysiciansForPatientProtection.org
Physician training saved my newborn grandbaby's life: I fear future patients won't have this privilege 16.09.2024 28:43
On the last podcast, I interviewed Dr. Anu Shokla who shared her story of her newborn baby being treated for an emergency rapid response by a nurse practitioner who had just rotated with her on the inpatient adult hematology oncology service. After hearing that podcast, Dr. Carol Nelson reached out to share a story of the alternate version: her newborn granddaughter was saved because of the outsta...
"My newborn baby required a rapid response: The NP that showed up had just rotated with me on the adult heme/onc service." 20.08.2024 31:38
Primary care physician Anu Shukla shares a personal story about the dangers that patients face when physicians are replaced with nonphysician practitioners. Dr. Shukla's comments on this podcast reflect her views and opinions. She does not speak for or represent her employer. Physiciansforpatientprotection.org patientsatrisk.com PhysiciansForPatientProtection.org
Bloomberg Report Questions NP Education 30.07.2024 24:33
In the first of a series 'The Nurse Will See You Now,' Bloomberg reporters investigate concerns about nurse practitioner education. The Miseducation of America’s Nurse Practitioners They don’t merely support doctors—NPs increasingly treat patients independently, including in specialty practices and emergency rooms. When they aren’t well trained, the results can be tragic. By Caleb Melby...
Dangers of nonphysician ketamine infusions 18.07.2024 40:57
There are an estimated 500-750 clinics across the U.S. providing infusions of Ketamine for the treatment of a variety of medical conditions. This is big business, estimated to bring in $3.1 billion per year and projected to rise to 6.9 billion by 2030. But is Ketamine safe and effective? Psychiatrist Kristina Kise, MD discusses the use of ketamine infusions in psychiatry, including the potential...
Why Psychiatry Needs Psychiatrists (and not just psych NPs) 27.05.2024 42:51
Psychiatrists are increasingly being replaced by non-physician practitioners - psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners (PMHNPs) and physician assistants (PAs). This webinar explains the difference between a psychiatrist and a PMHNP and reviews the evidence regarding unsupervised care of patients with mental illness by non-physicians. Link to webinar video: https://youtu.be/djDos6xbRos Contac...
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