Out of Session w/ Kindman & Co.

IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode, Liz and Logan get into what it really felt like to spend a weekend in the desert surrounded by queer community, why spaces like No Other Festival matter more than ever right now, how the experience of seeing all kinds of bodies just existing freely can quietly shift something inside you, and what it brings up when even in the most welcoming spaces, you still find...

IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode, Sarah, Madison, and Elizabeth get into what rupture really looks like, why repair feels so scary, how to know when a relationship is worth the effort, and what it actually takes to have those hard conversations without blowing everything up. So if you've ever wanted to get better at conflict — or just wondered why it feels so hard — this one's for you. SUM...

IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode of ‘Out of Session’ by Kindman and Co., hosts Paul and Dani sit down in a very real, very human place: tired, grieving, a little cynical, and unsure they “got it” today. What unfolds is an honest conversation about what happens when life hands you things that can’t be fixed — persistent grief, chronic stress, old childhood loneliness, the slow drip of exhaustion. T...

IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode of ‘Out of Session’ by Kindman and Co., hosts Liam and Sarah dive deep into the systemic nature of burnout. Through personal anecdotes and professional insights, they debunk the myth that burnout is an individual problem and highlight how workplace culture, unrealistic expectations, and lack of community contribute to this pervasive issue. They also discuss the imp...

IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode of ‘Out of Session’ by Kindman and Co., hosts Kaitlin, Dani, and Clarissa discuss the concepts of compassion fatigue, guilt, and shame, while reflecting on societal and cultural narratives around rest and productivity. The therapists underscore the importance of intentional rest as a form of resistance against the pressures of hyper-productivity and capitalist cult...

IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode of Out of Session with Kindman and Co., hosts Elizabeth and Logan discuss the importance of therapists embracing their own humanity and messiness. They challenge the societal expectation that therapists must always appear composed and all-knowing. SUMMARY: In this episode of Out of Session with Kindman and Co., Elizabeth and Logan dive into the topic of how therapi...

IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode of 'Out of Session with Kindman and Co.', Paul Kindman, co-founder and clinical director, converses with Lillian Farzan, a psychotherapist, digital nomad, poet, and activist. SUMMARY: Paul Kindman, co-founder and clinical director, reconnects with Lillian Farzan, a psychotherapist, digital nomad, poet, and activist. The conversation delves into Lillian'...

IN THIS EPISODE: Dani and Anna, who are both therapists specializing in grief, discuss their experiences and challenges related to grief therapy. SUMMARY: In this episode, therapists Dani and Anna dive deep into their experiences with grief and cultural practices surrounding it, particularly the creation of ofrendas for Día de los Muertos. They discuss the emotional complexities and mixed reaction...

IN THIS EPISODE In today’s episode, Sarah introduces Madison, a new therapist and grad student at Kindman and Co. They discuss their soon-to-be-launched caregiver support group. Both share personal experiences being caregivers and reflect on the challenges and responsibilities that come with this role. They express the importance of support systems, the evolving nature of caregiving, and their hop...

IN THIS EPISODE Two therapists unpack how masculinity is shaped by social policing, reflect on their own experiences of being shamed for vulnerability, and introduce a new men’s group dedicated to exploring more expansive and emotionally authentic forms of masculinity. TOPICS masculinity, vulnerability, therapy, community, connection, men’s groups KEY FIGURES Jesse Romo, Liam DeGeorgio, Kindman &a...

IN THIS EPISODE: Through a candid, unscripted conversation, two associate therapists explore what it really feels like to step into the role of healer while still learning how to hold space for themselves. Liam and Sarah reflect on their paths into therapy, the tension between confidence and self-doubt, and how the therapeutic relationship transforms both client and clinician. TOPICS: becoming a t...

IN THIS EPISODE: Through an engaging conversation, Shannon Stott reveals how improv can be a transformative practice for personal growth, healing, and building empathetic connections across diverse experiences. TOPICS: play, identity, Presence, healing, Improv, community KEY FIGURES: Logan Kim, Shannon Stott, Yinka Freeman, Know Other Fest, Vivica C. Coxx, Jozie Clapp, Nika Cherelle, Kindman &...

IN THIS EPISODE: Therapists living with chronic illness share their personal journeys of navigating health challenges, emphasizing the importance of community, self-acceptance, and finding humor in the face of ongoing medical struggles. Find the transcript ⁠here⁠ . TOPICS: healthcare, chronic illness, Disability, Bodies, community, mental health KEY FIGURES: Spoon theory, Christine Miserandino, Ki...

IN THIS EPISODE: Three therapists deconstruct toxic masculine norms by vulnerably sharing personal experiences and advocating for a more emotionally intelligent, nurturing approach to masculinity. TOPICS: vulnerability, Masculinity, Therapy, emotions, connection KEY FIGURES: bell hooks, Steve Wilson, Sophie Strand, The Will to Change, The Flowering Wand, Paul Kindman, Liam DeGeorgio, FD Signifier,...

TOPICS: coping, play, adulthood, Privilege, Creativity KEY FIGURES: Dan Siegel, Jesse Romo, Dani Marrufo, Healthy Mind Platter, Kindman & Co. SUMMARY:In this episode of Out of Session, hosts Dani Marrufo⁠ and ⁠Jesse Romo⁠ explore the concept of play in adulthood, discussing how the spontaneous, purposeless nature of play that comes naturally to children becomes increasingly difficult to mainta...

IN THIS EPISODE: In a candid discussion about managing stress and anxiety, two therapists offer compassionate insights into navigating complex social challenges through community support, self-care, and collective resilience. TOPICS: Media, community, Stress, activism, dissociation, Anxiety KEY FIGURES: Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Sanders, Steve Wilson, Ava Max, Zach Stafford, Vi...

IN THIS EPISODE: A candid podcast episode examining the challenges of discussing politics with family during the holidays, emphasizing personal boundaries, emotional self-care, and the nuanced ways individuals navigate potentially divisive familial relationships. TOPICS: politics, Holidays, Boundaries, Bodily autonomy, family, Voting KEY FIGURES: Donald Trump, Dani Marrufo, Demi Rodriguez, Kindman...

In this episode of Out of Session, therapist, Anna Kim , together with guest, Dr. Aaron Balick , critically examine the rise of online therapy platforms like BetterHelp, discussing the fundamental differences between traditional psychotherapy and tech-driven mental health services. They argue that while these platforms promise convenience and accessibility, they fundamentally misunderstand the com...

Join ⁠Jesse⁠ in conversation with ⁠Anthony Bishop⁠ as they discuss their experiences in recovery from addiction and the social landscape of addiction and recovery. Their conversation covers a wide range of topics, including defining addiction, the relation between human connection and addiction/recovery, and the importance of community and social context in how we understand recovery. This is the...

Join Jesse in conversation with Anthony Bishop as they discuss their experiences in recovery from addiction and the social landscape of addiction and recovery. Their conversation covers a wide range of topics, including defining addiction, the relation between human connection and addiction/recovery, and the importance of community and social context in how we understand recovery. This is the firs...

Join Dani in an interview with Demi Rodriguez as they discuss their experiences with voting as Latinas. Demi is a 1st generation Latina who grew up seeing her parents' relationship with voting and developed her own understanding of how to embrace culture and her right to vote.  Look out for the full transcript of this episode on the Kindman & Co. blog and sign up for our Kindman & Co. news...

In this episode of 'Out of Session w/ Kindman & Co.', host Caitlin Harrison interviews Cait Ference-Saunders, of ⁠Move with Cait⁠ , a Trauma Centered Trauma Sensitive Yoga⁠ (TCTSY) facilitator, about embodiment, making choices, and religious trauma. Cait shares her background in yoga and her journey through understanding trauma, explaining that TCTSY is a research-based recovery modali...

Dani, Steve , and Caitlin , three therapists, dive into the origin and meaning of 'Hot Girl Summer', tracing its roots to Megan Thee Stallion's 2019 album and subsequent social media posts. Stallion defined the term as being about being unapologetically oneself, having fun, being confident, and living your truth - a message that transcends gender and celebrates personal authenticity. T...

In this episode of Out of Session w/ Kindman & Co. , host Dani Marrufo engages in a profound conversation with José Vidrio, owner of Highland Park Training, about the evolving concepts of fatherhood and masculinity. They delve into the challenges and responsibilities of modern fatherhood, exploring how traditional masculine roles are being redefined in today's society. José shares personal...

Explore gender and sexuality with Courtney Rago and Steve Wilson - two of our therapists who are queer and also work with many queer clients. Courtney and Steve will dive deeper into the definitions and terminology used by the LGBTQIA2S+ community. They'll also share their own experiences and identity, and discuss how definitions themselves can be frustrating.