Dr. Kenneth Critchfield and Dr. Eliza Stucker-Rozovsky
Loving Differently Podcast
The Loving Differently Podcast is a podcast created by two licensed clinical psychologists who are leading practitioners of Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy, known as IRT for short. In this podcast, Drs. Critchfield and Stucker-Rozovsky unpack the theory and practice of IRT, showing how IRT offers a novel way to work in psychotherapy towards unlearning maladaptive ("Red") patterns and building up their adaptive, growth-oriented ("Green") self. We discuss ways that psychological symptoms can be thought of as a love story gone wrong and how we can learn to love differently.
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Dr. Kenneth Critchfield and Dr. Eliza Stucker-Rozovsky
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Jun 8, 2026
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Trailer 08.06.2026 2:00
Welcome to Loving Differently, a podcast co-hosted by Drs. Ken Critchfield and Eliza Stucker-Rozovsky.
Episode 012 - Narcissistic and Antisocial Personality Disorders Through an IRT Lens 03.06.2026 1:24:15
Summary: In Episode 12 of the Loving Differently Podcast, Dr. Kenneth Critchfield, Ph. D., and Dr. Eliza Stucker-Rozovsky, Psy. D., continue their Personality Harmonics series with a deep dive into Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASD) through the lens of Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy (IRT). Rather than treating DSM-5 personality disorders as flat...
Episode 011 - Interpersonal Harmonics Mini Series Ep 3 - Histrionic Personality Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder 08.05.2026 52:58
Summary: This episode continues our personality disorder prototype series by exploring histrionic personality disorder (HPD) and its relationship to borderline personality disorder (BPD) through an Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy (IRT) lens. Clinical Psychologists Ken and Eliza examine how both patterns center around fears of abandonment, but diverge in how individuals attempt to meet those n...
Episode 010 - Interpersonal Harmonics Mini-Series Ep 2 - Borderline and Passive Aggressive Personality Disorders 01.05.2026 1:20:00
Summary: In Episode 010, we (Dr. Ken Critchfield and Dr. Eliza Stucker-Rozovsky, licensed clinical psychologists) continue our personality prototype series through the lens of Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy (IRT). We focus on borderline personality disorder (BPD) and passive-aggressive patterns, exploring how developmental trauma and complex interpersonal learning shape enduring patterns see...
Episode 009 - Interpersonal Harmonics Mini Series Ep 1 - Avoidant, Dependent, and Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorders 18.03.2026 1:36:09
In this episode, Ken Critchfield, PhD and Eliza Stucker-Rozovsky, PsyD begin a new miniseries on Interpersonal Harmonics—a core concept in Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy (IRT)—by exploring Cluster C personality disorders through an interpersonal lens. We walk through avoidant, dependent, and obsessive-compulsive personality patterns, highlighting how these presentations extend beyond DSM-5 s...
Episode 008 - Highlight Reel 04.01.2026 4:52
Check out episode 008 where we review an upcoming publication and its implications. Paper referenced: Panizo, M. T., Harrison, E. G., & Critchfield, K. L. (in press, 2026). Interpersonal Diagnosis of Personality Disorders: Explaining Comorbidity and Enhancing Clinical Relevance. Journal of Psychotherapy Integration .
Episode 008 - Personality Disorder through an Interpersonal Lens – Validating Lorna Benjamin’s Approach 04.01.2026 1:08:16
Summary In this episode of the Loving Differently Podcast, we (Dr. Ken Critchfield and Dr. Eliza Stucker-Rozovsky) dive into a newly accepted paper examining the interpersonal diagnosis of personality disorders through the lens of Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy (IRT). Using the SASB model, we explore how longstanding debates in the DSM-5—categorical versus dimensional models of personality d...
Year-End Thanks, Merch, and What We’re Working On 22.12.2025 4:18
In this short update, we (Ken and Eliza) wanted to pause and say thank you to everyone who has listened to Loving Differently this year. When we started the podcast, we genuinely didn’t know if anyone would be listening — and the thoughtful feedback, engagement, and curiosity from clinicians and learners alike has meant more to us than we can easily put into words. We also share a quick update abo...
Episode 007 - What Is the “R” in IRT? Reconstruction, Red & Green, and the Gift of Love 02.12.2025 42:25
In this episode, we unpack the “R” in Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy: Reconstruction —what it means, why it matters, and how it reshapes identity, relationships, and the patterns we carry forward from early life. We explore the dynamics of Red and Green , the powerful pull of the Gift of Love , and why change can feel both destabilizing and deeply transformative. Using clinical examples a...
Episode 003- Introduction to the Structural Analysis of Social Behavior (SASB), part 1 31.10.2025 40:36
Summary: Welcome back, folks! We are almost through with the beginning, didactic-like episodes where we introduce all the IRT/SASB lingo. Today's episode is introducing SASB and key concepts/terms associated with SASB. The intro to SASB topic is actually broken into two episodes, to make it easier to listen! If you like this episode, please subscribe, like, and share with your friends. Let us know...
Episode 006 - How Change Happens in IRT: The Gift of Love 19.10.2025 1:08:26
Summary: In this episode of Loving Differently, Dr. Ken Critchfield and Dr. Eliza Stucker-Rozovsky unpack one of the most important empirical contributions to Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy (IRT): The Gift of Love as a Candidate Mechanism of Psychopathology and Change in IRT. Published in Psychotherapy (APA), this study investigates how deeply entrenched interpersonal patterns—rooted in earl...
Episode 005 - What is a personality disorder, anyway? 05.10.2025 46:14
Summary: Welcome back! In today’s episode, we take a bird’s eye view of personality disorders. We look at the categorical definition of a personality disorder in the DSM-5 TR and compare and contrast it to an IRT understanding of personality disorders. We discuss stigma related to the term ‘personality disorder’ and our own ambivalence around this terminology. Over the course of the episode, we t...
Episode 004 - Introduction to SASB, part 2 - Touring the SASB Model 21.09.2025 54:41
Summary: Welcome back! We could talk about SASB for WAY longer than this, but this is part 2 of what we'll call the introduction to SASB. In today's episode, we take each of the eight positions of the cluster model one at a time and discuss each, complete with applications in everyday life as well as within therapy conversations! If you like this episode, please subscribe, like, and share with you...
Episode 002 - What is Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy (IRT), anyway? 07.09.2025 40:40
Summary: Welcome back! In today's episode, we give a general overview of some key terms and concepts underlying IRT as both a theory of psychopathology and a principles-based therapy approach. We discuss the goals of therapy in IRT, how to identify maladaptive behaviors linked to loved ones, and how to help build the adaptive part of the self that is able to let go and (you guessed it!) love diffe...
Episode 001 - Introduction to the Loving Differently Podcast 07.09.2025 1:04:31
Summary: In this premiere episode of Loving Differently , clinical psychologists Dr. Ken Critchfield and Dr. Eliza Stucker-Rozovsky introduce listeners to the spirit of Interpersonal Reconstructive Therapy (IRT) —a way of understanding how our earliest relationships shape the patterns of love we repeat throughout life. Through stories of mentorship under IRT founder Lorna Smith Benjamin an...
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