Heidi Baker

Let’s Run That Again

Health EN ↓ 61 episodes

None of us run ultras because we want the “easy button,” but at the same time we sometimes face them with unrealistic expectations. Heidi Baker and Michelle Goldberg are both experienced ultrarunners and UESCA Certified ultrarunning coaches who want to help you unpack and understand the race that didn’t go quite as planned, and show you how they are opportunities for growth, learning and resilience building. Bringing in guests of all running and experience levels, we want to encourage you to embrace the challenges, welcome the mistakes, and thrive in the struggles.

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Heidi Baker

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Health

Latest episode

Mar 13, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 10: Lauren Jones and Doing Things That Scare You 03.10.2024

Lauren Jones is not stranger to challenging races in ultrarunning. She has completed the Cocodona 250 along with tons of other challenging races, and often places or gets a podium spot. But she has also had some DNFs along the way, that helped shape her into the ultrarunner she is. Listen to her incredible mindset of diving into things that scare her, and how that helps her get back up to run agai...

Episode 9: Mary Namestnik: "Trying is the most important thing you can do when things get hard." 26.09.2024

Mary Namestnik is a seasoned ultrarunner, who often finds herself on the women's or overall podium. She's a running coach, a cross country coach, a mom of three, and an all around incredible person with a mindset that gets her through distances of up to 100 miles. Mary talks about her backyard ultra experiences, an influential DNF moment at the Bloodroot 50 miler, and how she approaches training,...

Episode 8: Albie Day and Learning and Encouraging Through Pacing 19.09.2024

Albie Day is an experienced ultrarunner who has such an incredible mindset around running and the relationships and bonds formed through it. Although he does run ultramarathons himself, he has found his most profound and formative moments outside of racing, or in another's race as he paces someone. Albie shares his amazing perspectives with us and talks about his love of pacing at ultramarathons....

Episode 7: Emily Lyons and Positivity, Playfulness, and Pupfish 12.09.2024

Emily Lyons is an experienced ultrarunner who has completed Badwater 135 twice, and is currently signed up for inaugural Arizona Monster 300. She keeps a full race calendar and has a constant sense of fun and playfulness. This mindset helps carry her through these tough races but also her DNFs. She also educates us on the Devil's Hole Pupfish- so be sure to tune in!!   Find her on Instagram: @hung...

Bonus Episode: Michelle's DNF at Loopy Looper 10.09.2024

Michelle recently experienced her first DNF. Listen to her recap her experience and how she came to the decision to stop and how she moved forward after the race.   Disclaimer: This podcast does not cause DNF's

Episode 6: Kaylee Frederick and Overcoming Internal Disappointment at Race Outcomes 05.09.2024

Kaylee is a phenomenal ultrarunner, and a young one too being only 19 years old with a resume that many experienced runners would envy. She has run Badwater 135 twice, and this past year although she finished in a better time than the year before, dealt with a lot of disappointment and mental struggles as she didn't reach her own personal goals. She discusses with us overcoming those struggles, an...

Episode 5: Andrew Gaub- "You can do a whole a lot with curiosity and determination." 29.08.2024

Andrew Gaub is a rare book seller, father, husband, ultrarunner, and Heidi's brother! Andrew has run a handful of ultras and recently DNF'd World's End 100k, which is known as a particularly challenging race. Listen to him talk about his journey through sobriety, ultrarunning, and rare book selling and how all this parts of him complement each other and encourage him to keep seeing what he is capa...

Episode 4: Justin Andreas and Relatability, Coaching, and Having Fun in Ultrarunning 22.08.2024

Justin Andreas is an experienced ultrarunner, a coach, a podcast host, and a really fun follow on Instagram. He is all about making funny and relatable content to draw people into the sport. He talks about his coaching perspective on helping athletes through DNFs and hard races, talks through his own running adventures and difficult races, and shares some fun stories. Find him on Instagram: @runni...

Episode 3: Steve Epifano and Always Respecting the Ultramarathon 15.08.2024

Steve Epifano is an ultrarunning coach and a very accomplished ultrarunner himself. He discusses the races that have taught him to always respect the ultramarathon distance, no matter his experience level, and how it is always a challenge. Steve also discusses the coaching perspective on DNFs and how he helps his athletes process them. @so_cal_runner https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/

Episode 2: Kayla Fitzgerald and DNF at Barkley Fall Classic 08.08.2024

Kayla Fitzgerald is an ultrarunner, a sports dietician, a mom, and now a race director too! She talks with us about her DNF experiences at the Barkley Fall Classic, and how they changed her perspective on ultrarunning, goals, and life in general! Find her on Instagram at @the.endurance.nutritionist and @palmetto.ultras ⁠https://www.palmettoultras.com/⁠ ⁠https://www.endurance-nutritionist.com/

Episode 1: Let's Run That Again! 24.07.2024

Welcome to Let's Run That Again! In this episode, Heidi and Michelle share their ultrarunning journeys, why they decided to start this podcast, and talk about the importance persisting and learning every race.

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