Heidi Baker
Let’s Run That Again
None of us run ultras because we want the “easy button,” but at the same time we sometimes face them with unrealistic expectations. Heidi Baker and Michelle Goldberg are both experienced ultrarunners and UESCA Certified ultrarunning coaches who want to help you unpack and understand the race that didn’t go quite as planned, and show you how they are opportunities for growth, learning and resilience building. Bringing in guests of all running and experience levels, we want to encourage you to embrace the challenges, welcome the mistakes, and thrive in the struggles.
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Heidi Baker
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Mar 13, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 34: Steph Cloutier on Balance and Joy in Ultrarunning 21.03.2025 54:12
In this conversation, Heidi and Michelle interview Steph Cloutier, an ultra runner who shares her journey from casual running to participating in ultra marathons. Steph discusses her first experiences with ultra running, the challenges she faced during her first 100-mile race, and the mental strength required to overcome obstacles. She reflects on her return to the Javelina race, emphasizing the i...
Episode 33: LRTA x That's Runnable Crossover with Tommy Lewis 13.03.2025 1:04:16
This is a special podcast crossover episode! Also airing on the podcast That's Runnable with Tommy Lewis, we dive in and chat with Tommy about all things running! We share our personal experiences with training, the challenges of specific races like Cocodona 250 and Devil's Gulch, and the philosophy of maintaining fitness for adventure beyond just running. We also delve into the nuances of ultra r...
Episode 32: Katie Warren: "It's all about connection." 06.03.2025 1:03:56
n this episode, Heidi and Michelle welcome Katie Warren, an avalanche forecaster and race director for Evergreen Trails. They discuss Katie's unique career path, her passion for running, and the challenges of balancing her job with training for ultra marathons. Katie shares insights into her experiences as a race director, the importance of community in racing, and her upcoming participation in th...
Episode 31: Jason Bahamundi: Everyone Belongs At the Start Line 02.03.2025 1:12:45
Due to some technical issues we had to work through, there may be a few spots of pausing or overlapping voices in this episode, and for that we apologize! In this episode we welcome guest Jason Bahamundi of RunTriBike and we explore the world of endurance sports, emphasizing the importance of community, vulnerability, and humor. We discuss how everyday athletes can find their place in the sport, t...
Episode 30: Manika Gamble: Embracing the Journey and Experience 24.02.2025 1:01:03
*Due to some technical issues, there may be some minor sound overlap during the episode In this conversation, ultra runner Manika Gamble shares her incredible journey through unique and challenging races around the world, including her experiences in the Namibia Desert and the Arrowhead 135. The discussion delves into the mental and physical challenges of ultra running, the allure of extreme condi...
Episode 29: Avery Matthews: Overcoming Tremendous Obstacles 15.02.2025 1:00:19
In this conversation, Avery Matthews shares her inspiring journey into ultra running, discussing her training strategies, experiences with significant races like the Grindstone 100, and the challenges she faced, including a DNF and gallbladder surgery. She emphasizes the importance of mindset, nutrition, and the journey of ultra running, culminating in her participation in the Grand Slam of Ultra...
Episode 28: Dark Anchor Recap 06.02.2025 1:16:14
In this conversation, Heidi and Michelle reflect on their experiences at the Dark Anchor ultra race (where Heidi hit her first 100 miler and Michelle accomplished 119 miles!), discussing their personal achievements, recovery processes, unexpected challenges faced during the race, and the emotional roller coaster that comes with ultra running. They share insights on the physical and mental aspects...
Episode 27: Craig Lewis: Highlighting the Everyday Athletes 31.01.2025 1:03:55
In this conversation, Craig Lewis shares his journey as an everyday athlete and podcaster, emphasizing the importance of storytelling in the running community. He discusses the transition from casual running to ultra running, the challenges faced due to health issues, and the invaluable lessons learned from various races. The conversation highlights the power of community, collaboration, and the s...
Episode 26: Ryan Head: The Process is More Transformative than the Finish Line 23.01.2025 1:09:37
In this episode, ultra runner and coach Ryan Head shares his journey into the world of ultra running, discussing his recent accomplishments, the beauty of Utah, and the importance of community in the running world. He reflects on the challenges faced during his first 100-mile race and the lessons learned along the way, emphasizing the mental aspects of ultra running and the supportive nature of th...
Episode 25: Sarah Strong: The Trail Therapist 16.01.2025 57:44
In this conversation, Heidi and Michelle engage with Sarah Strong, a licensed clinical social worker and ultra runner, to explore the mental and emotional challenges faced by ultra runners, particularly in the context of DNFs. They discuss the emotional landscape of racing, and the importance of self-compassion and values in running. Sarah shares insights on how to navigate the grief and disappoin...
Episode 24: Amanda Rasmussen: Life Lessons from DNFs and a Journey to 200 Miles 09.01.2025 1:07:09
In this episode, Heidi and Michelle sit down with Amanda Rasmussen, an ultra runner and mother, to discuss her journey in the world of ultra running. Amanda shares her experiences, including her weight loss journey, the challenges she faced during races, and the emotional aspects of running. The conversation delves into the differences between 100-mile and 200-mile races, the importance of running...
Episode 23: New Year Reflections 02.01.2025 1:06:12
In this episode, Michelle and Heidi reflect on the year 2024, what we've learned and taken away from what we are doing here in this podcast space, and our hopes for 2025. We also take a few questions from our followers, and look forward into the new year with some new intentions.
Episode 22: Andy Glaze: "Smile or you're doing it wrong." 27.12.2024 1:12:02
Andy Glaze is well known in the ultrarunnning world, especially on social media. Andy talks with us about mindset- and how his has evolved over the years of being in the sport, and how he mentally handles tough decisions and DNFs. Andy also talks with us about his work/life balance, and his own personal struggles with mental health and why he speaks up about it so often. As we say in the episode...
Episode 21: Kenneth Pinkney: "Love it, hate it, embrace the journey." 20.12.2024 1:06:36
Kenneth Pinckney is the founder of Live Run Boundless and the author of "The Hills We Climb". Kenneth talks with us about his journey into running and ultrarunning and how his past experiences have brought him on this journey. To him- it is all about the relationships in this running world, and creating a community of people who regardless of past experiences are out there challenging themselves...
Episode 20: Aum Gandhi: "I Have So Much to Learn and That's Exciting" 12.12.2024 1:18:50
Aum Gandhi tells us his superpower would be to make everyone feel special- and that is exactly what he is doing with Run Tri Bike as a co-owner who is helping spread the word and sharing stories of everyday athletes and inspiring people. He talks with us about his recent DNF at Moab 240, how he approaches DNFs and growth in the sport. Aum gives insight into constantly learning through mistakes a...
Episode 19: Charlotte Corriher and Stepping Outside of Comfort Zones 05.12.2024 1:08:31
You may know her as Marathon Costume Chic, and even if you don't follow her you have likely seen Charlotte Corriher at a race- she has completed almost 300 marathon or greater distance races, and over 100 ultramarathons. The best part is she does each one in costume! While no one would look at her Ultrasignup profile and think she takes the easy route at ALL, Charlotte struggles with a fear of DNF...
Episode 18: Joe Hardin: DNFs do not define us. 28.11.2024 1:13:54
Joe Hardin is an ultrarunner, podcast host, writer for RunTriBike, and he comes on to talk about his DNF at his recent 100 mile attempt. He went into the race with a lot stacked up against him and still gave an incredible effort. He gives us insight into how he processed it, and his plans moving forward! Listen in for a really relatable and great outlook on how DNFs do not define us but create les...
Episode 17: Elizabeth Flores and Kate Oliver: Running and Pacing Moab 240 21.11.2024 1:39:42
In this incredible episode we have TWO guests to gives us two different perspectives and insights. Elizabeth Flores dives into her running journey and her recent DNF at Moab 240. We are also joined by one of her pacers and members of her crew, Kate Oliver, to here the different perspectives and memories from the race. This longer episode is worth the listen! Find Elizabeth and Kate on Instagram:...
Episode 16: Hazel Harrison: "How Lucky Am I?" 14.11.2024 1:10:51
Hazel Harrison is an incredibly accomplished ultrarunner who has an amazing story. One of her most notable accomplishments is the Marathon des Sables, and incredibly challenging seven day ultramarathon, which she actually wrote a book about as well recapping her experience. She is also a coach and talks with us about how she overcomes difficulties in both training and life, how she works with mind...
Episode 15: Alyssa Lieb: DNFing with Grace and Joy 07.11.2024 1:15:28
Alyssa Lieb is a mountain sports dietician, ultrarunner, lover of the mountains and the sports that go along with it. She recently participated in The Rut Trifecta, which consists of a VK, 28k, and 50k races. She DNF'd the 50k after completing the other races in the prior days, and takes us through her decision making process, her mindset around DNFs and the stigma often carried with them, and h...
Bonus Episode: No Business 100 and Javelina Jundred Race Recaps 05.11.2024 1:06:15
In this bonus episode, Heidi and Michelle recap their experiences at two different races on the same weekend. Heidi dives into her DNF at the No Business 100, what went wrong, and the plan going forward. Michelle talks about her successful completion of Javelina Jundred on a record heat weekend in Arizona.
Episode 14: Andrea Moore: "The Secret Power is Believing in Yourself" 31.10.2024 1:16:08
Andrea Moore is an incredibly accomplished ultrarunner with Bigfoot 200, Cocodona 250, Moab 240, and more just being some of her recent trail victories. But outside of her Ultrasignup score is her incredible outlook and overwhelming positivity and love for the trails and journey. Andrea is bursting with love and we are so happy to share her story and mindset with you all. Follow Andrea on Instag...
Episode 13: Jeff Winchester and Having an Open Mind and Expecting the Hard 24.10.2024 1:16:43
Jeff Winchester is an ultrarunner, ultrarunning coach, podcast host, and all around inspirational person with wonderful insights into the sport. He talks with us about his personal experiences with DNFs, his coaching perspective, as well as diving into his recent experience of a cancelled ultramarathon and a last minute shift into a new race. Jeff has recently started a new podcast called Blueprin...
Episode 12: Richard Urias: "Be the person you needed when you were younger." 17.10.2024 1:06:53
Richard (Ricky) Urias is an ultrarunner, father, and works for Ultraspire! He is a genuine and kind person who volunteered at the Zion 100 Milestone Challenge and paced several athletes to their goals. He talks about his journey into running and ultras, how he learned to shift his perspectives and learn to enjoy the journey, how he handles hard and challenging moments, and his thoughts on impost...
Episode 11: Regina Parks: From 50k to 100 10.10.2024 1:05:39
Although not a DNF story, Regina joins us to talk about her first experience with 100 miles, having only run a 50k as her longest distance prior to it. She never expected to run 100 miles, so she talked us through her challenges, how she overcame and found her way to 100 miles! She also talks over her mindset going into her new scary goal coming up soon!! Find her on Instagram: @whollyregina
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