Just Like Nana

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by stress management coach Lolita Guarin, where they discuss struggling with anxiety and self abandonment as an unintentional way to honor your ancestors and how to break your ‘loyalty’ to your family’s trauma patterns. They also discuss the societal pressure to uphold perfectly happily family narratives, even when th...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Yildiz Sethi, a psychotherapist, best-selling author, and founder of Emotional Mind Integration, to challenge outmoded mental health models and explore the generational subconscious mind. Together they discuss the importance of addressing generational trauma and the potential for mental health recovery through neur...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Malinda DeMercurio, an acupuncturist and Sangoma, to explore how energy medicine, shamanic traditions, and ancestral healing can guide you back to your heart. Together they discuss how to begin working with your ancestors, trusting your intuition as it draws you to specific healing modalities, and more. About Malin...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Dr. Irit Felsen, a clinical psychologist who specializes in trauma and traumatic loss, where they discuss the impact of significant familial trauma through the lens of Holocaust survivors and their families. Together, they explore how to navigate family dynamics that result from trauma, and the importance of separa...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Liza Miron, Family Constellations facilitator and coach, to discuss ancestral trauma through family entanglements and how we can heal from them. Together they discover how to balance ancestral anger while honoring those ancestors, the importance of acceptance and belonging, and so much more. About Liza With over 15...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Melissa Taylor, a mental health provider who's deeply versed in cultural nuances and intergenerational trauma, to discuss seeking ancestral wisdom as part of healing. They also dive into the impact of systemic oppression on family dynamics and the importance of recognizing and validating individual experiences...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by psychologist and educator Annie Brook to discuss how the nervous system stores trauma, and what we can do to release those chemicals and emotions and ground back into our bodies. Together they explore pre-cognitive memories and how we can metabolize emotional distress. About Annie Annie Brook is a psychologist, edu...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Erica Bonham, a licensed counselor and embodied leadership coach, where they explore a “badass nervous system”, emotional alchemy, and tips for listening to your body. About Erica Erica Bonham is a licensed professional counselor, speaker, best selling author and embodied leadership coach. Her work bridges individu...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Bee Doyle, a  nurse practitioner, intuitive healer, and spiritual teacher, to discuss moving out of survival states into a journey of healing and thriving. Together, they explore the non-linear nature of healing, ways to regulate your nervous system, tapping into ancestral resilience, and more. About Bee Bee Doyle...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Dr. Erika Yourdan, a licensed therapist and counselor, where they discuss how to use systemic thinking and nature-based healing to bridge the gap between your past and your present, helping you claim your rightful place as a cycle breaker.  Together they explore the feeling of psychological homelessness, where the...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by healer and social justice educator Joanna Kent Katz, as they explore how to move from inherited patterns of trauma and cultural assimilation toward a heart-centered state of collective liberation. Together they discuss how healing your personal lineage is a vital step in dismantling systemic oppression and understa...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Savannah Brown, where they discuss the mental and emotional tolls of breaking generational trauma patterns.  Together, they explore the reality that breaking trauma cycles isn't a clean, linear process—it's messy, imperfect, and requires an incredible amount of somatic awareness and radical self-honesty t...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Dr. Frances Champagne to delve into the world of epigenetics to discover how your environment and experiences shape your brain and behavior.  This episode explores how understanding these interactive pathways can actually lead to greater resilience and personal agency, regardless of the past.  About Dr. Champagne A...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Amy Pons to discuss the importance of reconnecting with one's soul blueprint and breaking generational trauma. Together they explore the benefits of finding a deep connection to your ancestors, the connection between the brain and nervous system as it responds to trauma, and the importance of listening to your...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Harriet Shearsmith to discuss the balance between honoring our ancestors and drawing firm boundaries around destructive behavior.  Together, they explore how ancestral trauma is unintentionally passed down through generations, share stories of personal family estrangements, and dive deep into what it truly means to...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by licensed psychologist, Dr. Daphne Fatter to explore the world of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and its link to ancestral healing.  They explore how trauma isn’t just a personal experience but a legacy burden that can be handed down through DNA, attachment patterns, and energetic imprints. The flip side is that we c...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Reiki practitioner Erica Wallace Moore, as they explore how Reiki can help with “stuck” emotions or chronic stress caused by unintentionally carrying the energetic imprints from generations past.  Together, they explore how empathy and intuition serve as spiritual superpowers to help you navigate trauma, dissolve g...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by “The Formidable Genealogist,” Jen Shaffer, to discuss how uncovering the histories of our ancestors allows us to move forward with empathy and understanding.  They discuss how professional genealogy can be a powerful tool for exploring ancestral trauma and finding a path toward healing, and how you can get started...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Kenlee Valleskey, as they discuss Internal Family Systems (IFS) as it relates to the weight of generational cycles and ancestral trauma. This work is so important in understanding how our internal world of wounded and protective parts is shaped by the experiences of our ancestors.  About Kenlee: Kenlee Valleskey is...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler sits down with Dr. Isabelle Mansuy, a Professor in Neuroepigenetics. They get to the root of ancestral trauma, starting with the groundbreaking science of epigenetics and the transgenerational effects of trauma.  About Dr. Isabelle Mansuy Dr. Isabelle Mansuy is a leading expert in the field of neuroepigenetics and a professor b...

Content Warning: This episode includes mention of child sexual assault.  In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Dr. Peter Levine to discuss how trauma lives in the body and, more importantly, how the trauma cycle can be completed to restore a sense of inner peace.  They unpack the signs– persistent physical symptoms, repetitive relationship patterns, fe...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by acupuncturist, health coach, and breathwork facilitator Amy Kuretsky to dive into the world of trauma-informed healing.  Together, they explore how active breathwork serves as “vibrational medicine” to complete interrupted trauma cycles, helping you move from a state of fight, flight, or freeze, back into a regulat...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler sits down with author Mona Susan Power to discuss the complexities of cultural trauma, family history, and the transformative power of storytelling.  Together, they explore why many of us struggle with ancestral trauma and deep-seated personal shame without realizing these burdens aren’t entirely theirs to carry, how witnessing...

In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler sits down with Sarah Lindsey, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who uses a trauma-informed and relational perspective in her work. Together, they unpack the concept of intergenerational trauma and, more importantly, intergenerational healing.  They explore the profound idea that “pain runs through families until someone...

In the debut episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler introduces us to the Elizabeth Room. In this space, generations of her ancestors gather to tell their stories. Amie shares her deeply personal journey of discovering 45 grandmothers named Elizabeth through DNA testing and genealogical research. The heart of this episode is a narrative reimagining of Amie’s fifth great-gran...