Drs. Jason Smith and Carl Gacono
Inside the Psychopathic Mind
Inside the Psychopathic Mind is hosted by two seasoned psychologists, Drs. Carl Gacono and Jason Smith. In concise, engaging episodes, the podcast explores psychopathy across theory and practice—including female psychopathy, assessment instruments, real cases from the past, stories ripped from the headlines, and current controversies. Drawing from research, clinical experience, articles, guest perspectives, and listener questions, the show is designed for both psychologists and lay listeners interested in understanding psychopathy beyond myths and sensationalism.
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Episodes
A Warden/Probation Officer's Perspective of Psychopathy 28.06.2026 59:43
In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Michael Segal. He has worked a psychologist and Warden in federal prison settings as well as a probation officer. He provides his unique insights to these various roles and how he helps manage and educate those around him to psychopathy. He also discusses gender differences he has seen from his experiences.
Corporate Psychopaths 21.06.2026 1:02:19
In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Cynthia Mathieu an expert on psychopathy in workplaces and on the corporate psychopath. We discuss her work, the harm these individuals cause, discuss some possible thoughts on female corporate psychopaths, and the consequences corporate psychopaths face. Dr. Cynthia Mathieu is an industrial-organizational psychologist and Professor of Organizational Behaviour...
Cultural Differences in Psychopathy 14.06.2026 38:26
In this episode, we are joined by Michael Schiøtt who is a Clinical Psychologist in Denmark. We discuss the differences between the USA, Denmark, other European countries and Greenland related to psychopathy. We discuss how certain items may appear differently and how it is not recommended to lower cut scores with any population.
Inside the Cold Trail II: The Mysterious Case of Cindy James 13.06.2026 48:02
In this episode, we discuss the tragic story of Cindy James on what would have been her 82nd birthday. We are again joined by the host and creator of the weekly true crime podcast, " The Trail Went Cold ", Robin Warder. We discuss all the facts of the case, new details that Robin learned since talking about it 10 years ago, conspiracy theories, the inconclusiveness of the case, Cindy James' person...
Personality Disorders 31.05.2026 46:35
In this episode, we discuss the 10 DSM Personality Disorders we use to diagnose in the USA. We provide the criteria, give a few examples, and discuss how it relates to our discussions on psychopathy.
Tales from the Cage I 17.05.2026 37:18
In this episode, we discuss stories from working in correctional and forensic settings, discuss ways to thrive in that environment, and strategies and tips for those wanting to work in these environments as a mental health worker.
Inside the Cold Trail: Steve Pankey & Jonelle Matthews 03.05.2026 34:06
In this episode, we interview Robin Warder, the host/creator of the weekly true crime podcast, " The Trail Went Cold ", which just passed its ten year anniversary and is closing in on 500 episodes. We talk about the cold case of Jonelle Matthews and its shocking conclusion. We dive into the personality of the person found guilty of the crime, Steve Pankey, and his beyond belief connection to Robin...
I Survived Ted Bundy 19.04.2026 28:36
In this episode, we have a follow-up to our Ted Bundy episode. We outline Ted Bundy's last few weeks on the run following his second escape from a Colorado jail. We interview Marti who interacted with Ted Bundy on February 14, 1978 mere hours before his final arrest in Pensacola, Florida. Marti describes the harrowing encounter and how she survived. She also provides ways to best handle these dang...
The Sunset Strip Killers 05.04.2026 20:44
In this episode, we discuss the Sunset Strip Killers, Carol Bundy and Doug Clark. We discuss some background, their crimes, and there psychopathic traits. This episode provides a primer to their crimes and allows one to understand a couple that were together psychopathic.
Surviving Female Psychopaths with Winifred Rule 22.03.2026 33:48
In this episode we are joined by Winifred Rule. She is the author of Born to Destroy and she is a regular contributor to Psychology Today. Her blog is titled: Surviving the Female Psychopath. She has lived with a mother and sister who were both psychopaths. She provides examples from her life and we link them to the PCL-R items. She also provides tips to deal with psychopaths in our lives and how...
The Criminal Personality 08.03.2026 49:09
In this episode we answer some listener questions and discuss the Criminal Personality. We delve into the characteristics of the Criminal Personality created by Yochelson and Samenow. We discuss what they are, how it affects their thinking, and how knowing them can better help people understand and/or treat those with antisocial behaviors.
Ted Bundy: What the Rorschach Inkblots Revealed 22.02.2026 51:11
In this episode, we are again joined by Dr. Tod A. Roy. We discuss the history of Ted Bundy, discuss his psychopathic traits, and discuss Ted Bundy's Rorschach. Also we compare and contrast Ted Bundy to Charles Manson on the Rorschach and provide some insights into interviewing/interacting with psychopathic persons. Article: https://nsuworks.nova.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1080&context=ps...
Charles Manson: The Final Interview 15.02.2026 48:45
In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Tod A. Roy who evaluated Charles Manson in 1997. We discuss his interactions with Manson, his assessment results, Manson's Rorschach, and different insights into Charles Manson. Dr. Tod Roy is a retired clinical and forensic psychologist. He has worked in both public and private practice throughout his career. His specific forensic areas were competency to sta...
Female Psychopathy: Same Disorder, Different Expression 08.02.2026 41:26
In this episode, we present the differences between female psychopaths and male psychopaths on eight PCL-R items. We provide clinical examples to better help showcase the differences.
Why the Rorschach with Psychopaths 01.02.2026 14:01
In this episode, we discuss why we use the Rorschach with psychopaths, what it helps us understand, and dispel some myths about the Rorschach Inkblot test.
Identifying Psychopathy 25.01.2026 51:36
In this episode we dive deeper into sound ways of identifying of psychopathy. We present the psychopathy criteria of Hervey Cleckley (Mask of Sanity) and Robert Hare (PCL-R). We discuss the items and provide examples of them in people we have assessed. We also discuss how is it we truly identify the signs of psychopathy in a person.
What is Psychopathy? 19.01.2026 19:10
In this episode we discuss what psychopathy is, what is not, clarify the misconceptions people have about psychopathy, and how we assess it. We discuss some stories and how to best understand psychopathy in males. Visit maverickpsychology.com
Introducing the Inside the Psychopathic Mind Podcast 19.01.2026 8:46
In this episode, Jason Smith and Carl Gacono discuss their clinical psychological experience with working with psychopathic persons. Feel free to comment and send questions. Visit maverickpsychology.com for more information!
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