Larry Barker & Drew Cline

Healthy Church Podcast

Religion EN ↓ 310 episodes

The Healthy Church Podcast is an honest conversation about what it means to be a part of a healthy church. There are no perfect churches - because they’re all filled with imperfect people led by imperfect leaders. But by God’s grace we can begin to dialogue about what changes can be made in our lives as leaders, and in the churches we serve, in order to better Love God and His people. For more information and other resources go to HealthyChurchPodcast. Com.

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Larry Barker & Drew Cline

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Religion

Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

HCP - Ep. 135 - Godly Habits Turn Into Godly Humans 24.01.2023

HCP - Ep. 135 - Godly Habits Turn Into Godly Humans  On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss the importance of godly habits in the lives of leaders. Robby Gallaty said “The habits we do on a daily basis create the person we are”. So the question is, who are you? And what habits have you established in your life to determine who you’re becoming! For more information around these topics o...

HCP - Ep. 134 - Tools for Coaching Leaders 17.01.2023

HCP - Ep. 134 - Tools for Coaching Leaders On today’s podcast, Larry and Drew discuss the importance of helping leaders grow and different tools and resources to do just that. Whether you’re coaching staff members, small group leaders or Sunday school teachers the most important things we can do when coaching are Listening and Asking good questions.  The books mentioned are: https://www.amazon.com...

HCP - Ep. 133 - Guest Dr. Michael Hight - Intentional Leadership Implementation 10.01.2023

HCP - Ep. 133 - Guest Dr. Michael Hight - Intentional Leadership Implementation On this episode we welcome Pastor and new doctoral graduate Dr. Michael Hight to the podcast where He talks about raising up leaders and doing so with intentionality. Sometimes we have to start with just one person in discipleship but by God’s grace, we are creating a “farm” system of leadership development instead of...

HCP - Ep. 132 - The 5 P’s of Jesus’ Mission (part 2 - Start with the Why) 03.01.2023

HCP - Ep. 132 - The 5 P’s of Jesus’ Mission (part 2 - Start with the Why) On this episode, Larry and Drew finish the 5 P’s of Jesus’ mission and discuss why it’s so important to keep that mission front and center in new and existing churches. The book referenced on today’s podcast is: “Start with the Why” - Simon Sinek https://www.amazon.com/Start-with-Why-Simon-Sinek-audiobook/dp/B074VF6ZLM/ref=s...

HCP - Ep. 131 - The 5 P’s of Jesus’ Mission - Part 1 27.12.2022

HCP - Ep. 131 - The 5 P’s of Jesus’ Mission - Part 1 On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss the MAIN thing - the mission of Jesus! Sometimes, however, we get busy “doing church” instead of making sure we’re making disciples and moving this Commission of Jesus forward. So how do we do that??  Today we talk about the 5 P’s of this mission: Prayer Prepare Partner Plant Parent The guys onl...

HCP - Ep. 130 - Discipleship Seasons of Life 20.12.2022

HCP - Ep. 130 - Discipleship Seasons of Life On this episode Larry and Drew discuss the importance of understanding the different life stages of a disciples life. The Engel Scale talks about helping people far from Jesus move towards him until they know Him and then further into their relationship with Him where they’re making disciples. In this life in Christ we all walk through different levels...

HCP - Ep. 129 - Guest Danny Parmelee (w/ Converge) 13.12.2022

HCP - Ep. 129 - Guest Danny Parmelee (w/ Converge) On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew welcome special guest Danny Parmelee with Converge. The conversation is around leadership development, hiring inside your organization or culture vs. hiring outside and the pros and cons of each. There’s also discussion on what Danny has seen and learned about church planting through Covid and post Covid,...

HCP - Ep. 128 - Discipleship Systems 06.12.2022

HCP - Ep. 128 - Discipleship Systems Last week on the HCP, Larry and Drew discussed starting with yourself when it comes to a healthy life in Christ, specifically around spiritual disciplines. This week they discuss moving from being a disciple or a leader who values discipleship to being a Father and Pastor who values discipleship in your church. Here are some of the points being made on today’s...

HCP - Ep. 127 - Are You in Training? (Spiritual Disciplines) 29.11.2022

HCP - Ep. 127 - Are  You in Training? (Spiritual Disciplines) In our culture we are quick to add things to our lives, we incessantly think we need more stuff, so we can do more of the things. But the truth is we should probably consider subtracting some things and replacing those things with godly habits and disciplines that will bring us closer to Jesus. Paul told Timothy in 1 Timothy 4 to “train...

HCP - Ep. 126 - Being Thankful 22.11.2022

HCP - Ep. 126 - Being Thankful This week on the HCP - Larry and Drew discuss thankfulness and the lessons we see about that in Eph. 5. What are you thankful for? We pray that you take some extra time this week to really rest and worship as you consider all that Christ has done for us and is continually doing. As you think of those things, you can’t help but be thankful.  We also want to take this...

HCP - Ep. 125 - Shepherding Toxic People 15.11.2022

HCP - Ep. 125 - Shepherding Toxic People On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew talk about how to deal with toxic individuals. In ministry at some point, you’re going to run into one of more people who could be labeled “toxic”. These are people who you continually have issues with, but there’s a difference in those who can be difficult and may offer critique from time to time, and someone who...

HCP - Ep. 124 - Continuing Healthy Ministry in a Crazy Culture 08.11.2022

HCP - Ep. 124 - Continuing Healthy Ministry in a Crazy Culture We’re living in unprecedented times, especially as church leaders. How do we continue to be faithful to the Lord in leading His church when the culture around us seems only ambivalent to what we’re doing? On this podcast Larry and Drew offer 5 reminders given from Pete Scazerro that will help us to look in the mirror and ask hard quest...

HCP - Ep. 123 - Guest Eli Semedo (Meta Narrative of Discipleship) 01.11.2022

HCP - Ep. 123 - Guest Eli Semedo (Meta Narrative of Discipleship) On this episode of the HCP Larry and Drew welcome friend Eli Semedo on the podcast to discuss his work in leading GOOD SOIL Training that focuses on the Meta Narrative of Discipleship (helping people see Jesus from Genesis to Revelation). This system seeks to build relationship with people while understanding their worldview. From t...

HCP - Ep. 122 - 5 Ways To Lead Well 25.10.2022

HCP - Ep. 122 - 5 Ways To Lead Well On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew talk about leadership myths and reminders of how to lead in a way that honors the Lord and cares for others.  Often taking a position or having a title can cause you to have the misunderstanding that you’re now a leader. You’re not. A title alone or position doesn’t make you a leader. It’s what you do with that position...

HCP - Ep. 121 - Living with Accountability 18.10.2022

HCP - Ep. 121 - Living with Accountability On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew talk about the importance of living with accountability. Jesus sent the disciples out in pairs and we see some of his closest disciples fall when they are alone.  Many church leaders know about accountability and could even say it’s important, but are you being intentional in your life and ministry to walk in it?...

HCP - Ep. 120 - Mobilizing in Character 11.10.2022

HCP - Ep. 120 - Mobilizing in Character As church leaders, we stay busy putting out fires, running from meeting to meeting, prepping for a sermon or a million other things. It can be easy to forget to live with Biblical character - to serve the Lord when no one else is watching. Who are we in the dark, so to speak? When a  car gets on our bumper, when something inappropriate crosses our feed, or w...

HCP - Ep. 119 - Mobilizing in Biblical Knowledge 04.10.2022

HCP - Ep. 119 - Mobilizing in Biblical Knowledge On this episode Larry and Drew discuss the importance of helping your congregation grow in their knowledge and understanding of God’s Word. They discuss multiple options for added discipleship strategies beyond preaching alone. What are the different methods that you are using to help equip your folks for the work of ministry?  The books  and method...

HCP - Ep. 118 - Mobilizing the Church 27.09.2022

HCP - Ep. 118 - Mobilizing the Church We often talk about mission in the church, but the question being asked today is if it’s actually happening. There is a difference in Orthodoxy (Correct belief) and Orthopraxy (correct actions). As the church of Jesus, we’re called to both - rightly dividing the Word of Truth and actively walking it out in our lives. Sometimes we can get stuck in the rut of “d...

HCP - Ep. 117 - 7 Observed Traits of the BEST Leaders 20.09.2022

HCP - Ep. 117 - 7 Observed Traits of the BEST Leaders On this episode of the Healthy Church Podcast, Larry and Drew discuss a great post from Ron Edmonson on what Great Leadership qualities look like.  Often we give best practices or strategies for leaders, but what we like about this list is these traits have already been proven and these are habits of great men and women.  After we talk trough t...

HCP - Ep. 116 - 5 Leadership Growth Killers 13.09.2022

HCP - Ep. 116 - 5 Leadership Growth Killers On this podcast Larry and Drew discuss 5 things that leaders often do that could be killing their leadership growth and influence and even any leadership culture where they lead. We do these things sometimes without even thinking about it. For many leading is a natural ability and so to pull back, lighten up or listen to other voices seems counter-intuit...

HCP - Ep. 115 - 8 Negative Reactions to Anxiety 06.09.2022

HCP - Ep. 115 - 8 Negative Reactions to Anxiety We’re human beings. We make mistakes and even as pastors and church leaders, we can find ourselves choosing the wrong reaction to anxiety. On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew want to encourage you to find your identity firmly in Christ and to do the hard work of digging deeper into relationships, not ejecting from them.  Are you guilty of any...

HCP - Ep. 114 - Relationships in Ministry 30.08.2022

HCP - Ep. 114 - Relationships in Ministry Navigating relationships as a church leader can be interesting to say the least. God has called us to serve people and love people and be in relationship with people in order to love and serve them, but sometimes that’s easier said than done. Often pastors face the difficult aspect of wondering how much of myself can I give to this relationship, is this a...

HCP - Ep. 113 - Fasting 23.08.2022

HCP - Ep. 113 - Fasting We know Jesus did it. We see examples all throughout scripture, but is FASTING a discipline that exists in our lives? At the heart of Jesus’ definition of discipleship is denying yourself and that’s what fasting is. You’ve heard of intermittent fasting and possibly know of other health reasons for fasting, but when we fast in a Biblical way, it’s to connect with the Father....

HCP - Ep. 112 - Status Quo 16.08.2022

HCP - Ep. 112 - Status Quo It’s easy in the church to just do what we’ve always done. We get into our traditions and habits and roll for a long time, but just like an old road that you drive on, at some point it will become some deep ruts. In this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss looking at all that we do in the church and objectively asking ourselves this question - Are we settling for...

HCP - Ep. 111 - Guest Sam Douglas with DCPI (Life Objective) 10.08.2022

HCP - Ep. 111 - Guest Sam Douglas with DCPI (Life Objective) On this episode Larry and Drew speak with very special guest Sam Douglas with DCPI. Sam serves as the , with Dynamic Church Planting International. DCPI just celebrated planting 1 million churches around the world!! Sam has trained leaders and church planters all over the world and is an amazing story teller, as you will hear in this pod...

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