Larry Barker & Drew Cline
Healthy Church Podcast
The Healthy Church Podcast is an honest conversation about what it means to be a part of a healthy church. There are no perfect churches - because they’re all filled with imperfect people led by imperfect leaders. But by God’s grace we can begin to dialogue about what changes can be made in our lives as leaders, and in the churches we serve, in order to better Love God and His people. For more information and other resources go to HealthyChurchPodcast. Com.
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Larry Barker & Drew Cline
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
HCP - Ep. 110 - Disqualification and Restoration 02.08.2022 32:39
HCP - Ep. 110 - Disqualification and Restoration On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss the sensitive topic of being disqualified for ministry. Are there signs to look for before a fall, as well as how to care for brothers and sisters after a fall. We all make mistakes and thankfully those mistakes don’t have to define us or our ministry in the future. “Brothers, if anyone is caught i...
HCP - Ep. 109 - Intentional Sabbath 26.07.2022 30:05
HCP - Ep. 109 - Intentional Sabbath As church leaders, we know about Sabbath and even probably understand it’s a commandment. Not a suggestion or best practice, but one of the big ones. WE NEED REST. God created us this way and yet we push back, disobey and often just don’t take time to sabbath. In this crazy climate of our broken society, now more than ever is the right time to begin to understan...
HCP - Ep. 108 - Leading in Mission (John Michael Poulin) 19.07.2022 28:21
HCP - Ep. 108 - Leading in Mission (John Michael Poulin) HCP welcomes Missions Field Coordinator for South America and Africa for the Baptist Missionary Association, John Michael Poulin. He is coordinating missions efforts for 24 different countries in these areas. This conversation is one that helps challenge church leaders to lead, pray, preach and live missionally before their congregations. Ef...
HCP - Ep. 107- Ministry To Trafficking Victims (Angelyn McMurray) 12.07.2022 28:58
HCP - Ep. 107- Ministry To Trafficking Victims (Angelyn McMurray) On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew sit down with Angelyn McMurray with WE ARE FREE, a ministry focused on caring for trafficking victims both adult and adolescent. The conversation was one asking the question on behalf of church leaders how they can better bring attention to the real horror that is trafficking plaguing ever...
HCP - Ep. 106- Student Perspective of Student Ministry (SOAR22) 05.07.2022 29:58
HCP - Ep. 106- Student Perspective of Student Ministry (SOAR22) On today’s podcast Larry and Drew speak to several students from recently graduated to early high school about the importance of student ministry in the church and what leaders should know about caring for the students in their churches. They also asked the question of where the focus of that ministry should be - it’s not all fun and...
HCP - Ep. 105- Biblical Metrics 28.06.2022 39:53
HCP - Ep. 105- Biblical Metrics On this episode of the HCP Larry and Drew discuss metrics (what we measure). Often church leaders focus on the 3 B’s - Buildings, Bodies, and Bucks as the main metrics for weather or not we are succeeding in our ministry efforts. The question however is, has God called us to success or faithfulness? David was guilty of counting his army instead of trusting God, Gi...
HCP - Ep. 104 - The Future Church 21.06.2022 30:15
HCP - Ep. 104 - The Future Church As church leaders we have to be careful to not to settle for status quo. We have to always be willing to analyze where we are as leaders or where our church is in the area of growth. We can’t only lean on where we’ve been or what we’ve tried in the past but dream and pray and vision for what God wants to do in years to come. In order to do this Biblically we have...
HCP - Ep. 103 - The “D” Word (Depression) 14.06.2022 37:28
HCP - Ep. 103 - The “D” Word (Depression) Studies show that 70% of pastors struggle with depression. It’s a very real issue in ministry and many high profile pastors and authors have committed suicide in recent years. On today’s podcast, Larry and Drew have one of the most vulnerable conversations ever about real struggles of depression, how to process it and next steps in allowing the Lord to hel...
HCP - Ep. 102 - Guest David Levy - with Good Soil 07.06.2022 30:26
HCP - Ep. 102 - Guest David Levy - with Good Soil On this episode of HCP Larry and Drew welcome special guest David Levy of the ministry of Good Soil. Good soil is an organization that focus on training believers, pastors and churches on discipleship and discipleship processes. In David’s study, he discovered that many pastors have never led someone to the Lord, much less discipled them and this b...
HCP - Ep. 101 - Church Strengthening with Guest Bryan Moak (Converge) 31.05.2022 30:21
HCP - Ep. 101 - Church Strengthening with Guest Bryan Moak (Converge) On this episode of the HCP Larry and Drew welcome very special guest Bryan Moak with Converge where Bryan serves as the Vice President of Church Strengthening. Much like the Apostle Paul, Bryan is helping new church communities and existing ones to become as healthy as possible. The discussion is about pastoral and overall chur...
HCP - Ep. 100 - Looking Out the Window or In a Mirror 17.05.2022 35:08
HCP - Ep. 100 - Looking Out the Window or In a Mirror On this centennial episode, Larry and Drew share how grateful and thankful they are for the privilege of sharing with you every week. As leaders we are called to reflect in good times of celebration and difficult times of challenge. In those moments do you “go to the window” and look for all the people who have made your celebration possible?...
HCP - Ep. 99 - Church: Destination or Distribution Center 10.05.2022 33:48
HCP - Ep. 99 - Church: Destination or Distribution Center On this episode, Larry and Drew talk about how many churches focus on our services and locations instead of what we’re producing in our people. Even making disciples alone isn’t enough. We need to be making disciple-makers who make disciples. What if our focus, our goal, our efforts all led to our people becoming missionaries leaving and go...
HCP - Ep. 98 - The 4 V’s of a Healthy Leader 03.05.2022 40:55
HCP - Ep. 98 - The 4 V’s of a Healthy Leader. On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss elements from the book “How To Lead and Still Have a Life” by H. Dale Burke. We often give more credibility to leaders based on their looks, credentials or successes, but we should probably consider who they are more than what they’ve done. How are you doing in these areas of personal leadership? The 4...
HCP - Ep. 97 - BMA Natl Meeting - Clif Johnson 26.04.2022 28:53
HCP - Ep. 97 - BMA Natl Meeting - Clif Johnson On this episode Larry and Drew welcome special guest Clif Johnson, President of the BMA to discuss this meeting’s theme, current struggles and concerns as well as vision he has for this association going forward. After a productive few days in Springfield, MO at this meeting, the question is asked, will we take this theme and challenge back to churche...
HCP - Ep. 96 - 5 Key EQ Qualities for Leaders 19.04.2022 31:58
HCP - Ep. 96 - 5 Key EQ Qualities for Leaders On this episode of the HCP - Larry and Drew discuss Emotional Health and 5 of the top qualities needed in church leadership. You may be familiar with IQ, but do you know about EQ? It’s not all about what you know in ministry it’s also about how you relate to people on your team and in your church. We discuss the need to understand and lead with: Empath...
HCP - Ep. 95 - Under EASTER Pressure 12.04.2022 31:13
HCP - Ep. 95 - Under EASTER Pressure It’s EASTER week! Praise God for the resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!! But how quickly does our celebration take on pressures we were never intended to carry? As pastors, we stress out this week probably more than any other in the year. Is the lawn perfect, is the choir ready, will I preach the greatest sermon of my life, will we reach all who...
HCP - Ep. 94 - Ukrainian Refugees and Romanian Church Planting (Live from Romania) 05.04.2022 40:13
HCP - Ep. 94 - Ukrainian Refugees and Romania Church Planting (Live from Romania) On this special podcast Larry calls is from Romania to discuss all that God is doing in the Ukrainian refugee crisis as well as how the mission of Jesus is going forward through church planting in this area of Romania. Larry and His wife Shelby served here for 2 years developing leaders and planting churches and over...
HCP - Ep. 93 - What Is Discipleship? (Part 1) 29.03.2022 33:12
HCP - Ep. 93 - What Is Discipleship? (Part 1) On this episode of the HCP. Larry and Drew discuss the topic of discipleship and creating a culture of discipleship in our churches. Jesus was clear in the great commission to “go and make disciples”, yet many churches and pastors don’t know how to define it, much less create a culture of expectation for our people to become disciple makers. Why is...
HCP - Ep. 92 - The OTHER Pandemics 22.03.2022 38:48
HCP - Ep. 92 - The OTHER Pandemics On this episode of the HCP Larry and Drew discuss what other issues have developed in our lives and in the church as a result of the Covid 19 Pandemic. Ed Stetzer wrote an article in Outreach Magazine called The 6 Other Pandemics - this is where the content of this podcast comes from. We talk about the Pandemic of: - Mental Illness - so many are struggling wit...
HCP - Ep. 91 - Caring For Your Soul 15.03.2022 35:54
HCP - Ep. 91 0 Caring For Your Soul If your arm hurts, it's obvious - you go to the doctor. Same for other physical issues, but what if you can't seem to describe what you're struggling with, but it's affecting different areas of your life? There's a good chance you need to consider what's going on in your soul. On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss this...
HCP - Ep. 90 - The “3 D’s” (Disappointment, Discouragement and Depression) 08.03.2022 44:44
HCP - Ep. 90 - The “3 D’s” (Disappointment, Discouragement and Depression) You don’t have to lead in ministry very long in order to struggle with one of these 3 issues. As leaders we want to see God move in our people and grow in their faith. We want them to attend our events and participate in the mission of Jesus, but when they don’t (as much as you wish they would), you can get disappointed. Be...
HCP - Ep. 89 - REPLAY - Foundations of a Healthy Church (Vision) 01.03.2022 49:19
HCP - Ep. 89 - REPLAY - Foundations of a Healthy Church (Vision) This is a REPLAY of Episode 39 from March 2, 2021 - On this episode of the Healthy Church Podcast, Larry and Drew continue in their series called Foundations of a Health Church. Today they discuss the 3rd element - Vision. Do you know the vision of your church? What is it that your church family is working towards? Believing for? Fee...
HCP - Ep. 88 - REPLAY - Foundations of a Healthy Church - Mission 22.02.2022 31:31
This is a REPLAY of Ep. 37 from Feb. 16th, 2021 What is the Mission of the church? Do you know? Or better yet, are you doing it? On last weeks podcast we discussed the WHY of a healthy church - Core Values. This week we’re talking about the WHAT which is Mission! Many of our churches have “rehearsed” the service elements of the church and most would say they are “on mission”, but the big question...
HCP - Ep. 87 - REPLAY - Foundations of a Healthy Church - Core Values 15.02.2022 33:55
THIS IS A REPLAY of Ep. 36 from Feb. 9th, 2021. Whether a new church plant or established church, they all need core values to help direct them to become the church God wants them to be. On this episode of HCP, Larry and Drew discuss why core values are so important to church health. Core values can give your church a common language and specific identity towards the church you believe God wants...
HCP - Ep. 86 - REPLAY - Foundations of a Healthy Church - Intro 10.02.2022 27:00
REPLAY from Ep. 35 - Feb. 2, 2021 Every healthy church has a clear understanding about what they value, their mission, vision and strategy to be effective. On today's podcast, Larry and Drew discuss the intro for a series of upcoming podcasts breaking each of these things down to help churches successfully plan towards health and actually live each of these imperatives out. Values - The WHY...
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