Larry Barker & Drew Cline

Healthy Church Podcast

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The Healthy Church Podcast is an honest conversation about what it means to be a part of a healthy church. There are no perfect churches - because they’re all filled with imperfect people led by imperfect leaders. But by God’s grace we can begin to dialogue about what changes can be made in our lives as leaders, and in the churches we serve, in order to better Love God and His people. For more information and other resources go to HealthyChurchPodcast. Com.

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Larry Barker & Drew Cline

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Religion

Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

5 Ways To Build Trust - HCP 308 07.07.2026

On this episode of the HCP, the team continues a conversation that leads into 5 ways to build trust.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Diagnostics p. 3 - HCP 307 23.06.2026

On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Heidi and Drew finish the conversation around being intentional to diagnose your own heart, ministry and church for what may be keeping you from all God wants to do in you or your people.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook...

Diagnostics p. 2 - HCP 306 16.06.2026

Diagnostics p. 2 - HCP 306 On this podcast the team discusses more aspects of taking a healthy diagnostic within your leadership and ministry. The primary focus was approaching this with humility and prayer because "You don't know what you don't know"! Larry gets fired up when talking about prayer! You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information ab...

Guest Michael Strong - HCP 305 09.06.2026

Guest Michael Strong - HCP 305 On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Heidi welcome church planter Michael Strong to the podcast to discuss his journey from homelessness to Church Planting. Michael serves in the Minneapolis, MN area.  To reach Michael -  brothermike@nnccmpls.com You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: htt...

Diagnostics p. 1 - HCP 304 02.06.2026

On this podcast, Larry, Drew and Heidi start the conversation about being able to diagnose different issues in the church. The first place to consider is our own hearts and what may be keeping our leadership from being as effective. Addressing personal sin and right timing are the focus today and the wrap up is that we must always realize that PEOPLE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR PROJECT.  You can...

Cultivating Safe Relationships - HCP 303 26.05.2026

Cultivating Safe Relationships - HCP 303 On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss the need for honest, transparent, and accountable relationships. Those can only fully happen in a safe environment, judgment free and private. As followers of Jesus, we must first build a trust and fully vet those we're considering for this confessional and vulnerable space.  You can email us at...

Restoration - HCP 302 19.05.2026

Restoration - HCP 302 On this podcast Larry asked Drew to share more from a recent message from 1 Peter 5:5-14 and specifically how Peter encourages believers that after they have a season of suffering that the Lord himself will restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish them HIMSELF - just as he had done for Peter on the beach in Galilee after his denial of Christ. God can restore anyone willing...

Confessing Sin - HCP 301 12.05.2026

Confessing Sin - HCP 301 On this episode of the podcast, Larry, Drew and Heidi talk about the need for active and intentional confession in the life of the Christ follower and the need for church leaders to walk in this rhythm instead of hiding in shame and secrets. Larry also mentioned the RPMS from Dave Ferguson's new book "Multipliers" Are you healthy in these areas? Relational,...

Guest P.J. Noland (Ministry to Men) - HCP 300 05.05.2026

Guest P.J. Noland (Ministry to Men) - HCP 300 On this 300th episode of the HCP the guys welcome P.J. Noland, Lead Pastor of Collective Church in Bryant, AR. P.J. has been developing the ministry to men at Collective for a few years with his fellow pastor Justin Harrell and they have seen God do amazing things in their men, their families and the church as a whole. For more information about P.J or...

Guest Angelyn McMurray (Dealing with Pornography) - HCP 299 28.04.2026

Guest Angelyn McMurray (Dealing with Pornography) - HCP 299 On this episode, friend of the HCP, Angelyn McMurray, Director of WE ARE FREE (Human Trafficking Ministry) shares about the reality of porn addictions in the church and how it can lead to further brokenness and abuse. This conversation is about how pastors and church leaders need to have an awareness of this sin issue in their own lives a...

Healthy Church Panel Promo - HCP 298 21.04.2026

Healthy Church Panel Promo - HCP 298 On this podcast Larry, Heidi and Drew discuss recent guests, great conversations and the upcoming panel happening at Antioch Baptist on April 22, 2026 in Conway, AR at 9am.  Different aspects of a life in Christ are mentioned (Disciplines, Physical Health, Soul Health, Rest, etc..) You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information ab...

Guest Doug Brewer - HCP 297 14.04.2026

Guest Doug Brewer - HCP 297 On this episode, Pastor Doug Brewer shares about enduring intimacy with the Lord that helps him stay sensitive to the Lord as he leads his people in his church. Doug will be on a panel for Spiritual Health at the BMA National Meeting on Wednesday April 22 at Antioch Baptist Church in Conway AR at 9am.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more in...

Guest Angelyn McMurray - HCP 296 07.04.2026

Guest Angelyn McMurray - HCP 296 On this episode of the HCP. Drew and Larry welcome Angelyn McMurray, director of We Are Free, a ministry to women coming out of Sex Trafficking. This conversation focuses on how the church should consider this issue and the relational aspects of people in need dealing with it. It's happening in and around our churches, and we must be ready to meet people who a...

Fitness & Spirituality with Guest Ben Barker - HCP 295 31.03.2026

Fitness & Spirituality with Guest Ben Barker - HCP 295 On this episode of the HCP, we welcome Ben Barker (fitness instructor and social media influencer) to the podcast to discuss how fitness and health play into our soul care and walk with Christ. You can find Ben on socials at @benbarkerfitness You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Ch...

Finding a Rhythm of Rest - Guest Richard Smith - HCP 294 24.03.2026

Finding a Rhythm of Rest - Guest Richard Smith - HCP 294 On this episode of the HCP, Heidi hosts a talk from Pastor Richard Smith around "Finding a Rhythm of Rest" through Sabbath.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Guest Bryan Atwood - Leading Through Disappointment - HCP 293 17.03.2026

Guest Bryan Atwood - Leading Through Disappointment - HCP 293 On this episode of the HCP, Drew and Heidi welcome pastor Bryan Atwood! Bryan serves the church he planted in the gulf of Mississippi and has a heart for people far from God. He talks about how to continue to lead through disappointment.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Chu...

Friendship In Grief - Daisy Cline and Ali Lorenz - HCP 292 10.03.2026

On this podcast the HCP team welcomes Daisy Cline and Ali Lorenz. Both of these college freshmen have lost a parent in the last 9 months and yet by God's grace, they have found one another. God has given them a wonderful friendship to encourage one another and process their grief together in a way that honors the Lord and is a testimony to His faithfulness. Daisy and Ali recently started a ne...

Pastor Highlight - Ben Kingston - HCP 291 03.03.2026

Pastor Highlight - Ben Kingston - HCP  On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Drew and Heidi sit down with Pastor Ben Kingston around personal disciplines, journaling and prayer. Pastor Ben keeps his walk with Jesus fresh and real as he seeks to disciple others in his church.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://w...

Raising Leaders Culture p3 - HCP 290 24.02.2026

Raising Leaders Culture p3 - HCP 290 On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Drew and Heidi talk again about creating a culture where developing leaders is an on-going reality. Today they discuss 5 realities in what you should look for in new leaders.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.co...

Living Out the Mission of God - HCP 289 17.02.2026

Living Out the Mission of God - HCP 289 On this podcast Larry and Heidi talk through what it means to live on mission.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook! Links mentioned:  https://bmaglobal.org/ https://healthychurchsolutions.org/ https://churchanswers.com...

Raising Leaders Culture - p. 2 HCP 288 10.02.2026

Raising Leaders Culture - p. 2 HCP 288 On this podcast Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss creating culture in your church with an awareness to cultivating leaders.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook!

Raising Leaders Culture - p.1 - HCP 287 03.02.2026

Raising Leaders Culture - p.1 - HCP 287 On this episode of the HCP - Larry, Drew and Heidi all begin several discussions on developing a leadership culture in your life and church. Part of the conversation was around how Barnabas was used of God to raise leaders like the Apostle Paul. Some of the aspects were: -Be Generous -Believe in People  -Be Willing to Risk -Be a Grace Finder -Be an Example t...

Worship Moments - HCP 286 27.01.2026

Worship Moments - 286 On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Heidi and Drew talk about the power of worship in our lives and in the life of our church family. We often make worship about music or a service instead of a surrendering of ourselves before a Holy God. Rom. 12:1-2 tells us that offering our lives as a "living sacrifice is our reasonable act of worship". Worship begins with surrend...

Revival and Surrender - HCP 285 20.01.2026

On this episode of the HCP Larry, Heidi and Drew all gather for a conversation around the prayer for personal and congregational revival and the personal surrender required to get there. This is also the first episode back for Drew after the loss of his wife Lori.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healt...

Don't Lead Alone! 13.01.2026

Larry and Heidi challenge us not to lead alone this year! They discuss things for leaders to be mindful of as we begin 2026. Some key takeaways: what it looks like to maintain the presence of God and stay responsive to his leading, self-examination and evaluation of your soul, the importance of staying in community, awareness of blind spots, and finding a coach or mentor. Soul evaluation mentioned...

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