Healthy Church Podcast

HCP - Ep. 160 - Live SENT! On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss what missional living should look like. Often we are creatures of habit and just fall into the routine of church events and status quo and forget to live with an awareness of those who need Jesus around us all the time. What does it look like to be SENT by Jesus to our neighborhoods, work environments, and other areas wh...

HCP - Ep. 159 - Evaluation #2 - Is Our Church Dying? On this podcast Larry and Drew continue their discussion about evaluating ministry. Many church leaders are really struggling in this season of ministry and asking hard questions about sustainability and even the scary reality that their church may actually be dying. In this conversation they discuss different strategy and imperatives of all chu...

HCP - Ep. 158 - Faith, Family, FITNESS (with Guest Ben Barker) On this episode of the HCP Larry and Drew welcome fitness expert and Larry’s son Ben Barker to the podcast. You can’t consider overall health of pastors and leaders and not include a consideration of physical health. It is just as important as Soul Health, Emotional Health, Relational Health, Financial Health, or Spiritual Health. Ben...

HCP - Ep. 157 - Evaluating Your Ministry On this podcast, Larry and Drew discuss the healthy habit of evaluation. Whether you’re new to a ministry context or yearly discussing what you should consider for the upcoming ministry season. Evaluation helps you take a hard look at things you’ve done good and bad, where you stand today and what the Lord might want to do in your ministry in the future. Fi...

HCP - Ep. 156- 4 Areas of Pride On this podcast Larry and Drew discuss 4 different areas where pride can work deceptively in our hearts and lives as leaders and how we need to actively seek to apply the Gospel of Jesus to each of these. Pride was the original sin that kicked Lucifer out of Heaven and what deceived Adam and Eve as well. Don’t let this allusive sin cause you a fall, deal with these...

HCP - Ep. 155 - Leadership Traps As human beings, church leaders have to be careful to watch for pitfalls of our humanity and traps that arise in ministry. It’s an ongoing battle to fight our flesh and rest and trust in our God to guard our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus. On this episode, the guys discuss 7 traps we need to be aware of. These ideas come from www.pastormentor.com and Drew and Lar...

**This post is a REPOST of our Ep. 117 ** HCP - Ep. 117 - 7 Observed Traits of the BEST Leaders On this episode of the Healthy Church Podcast, Larry and Drew discuss a great post from Ron Edmonson on what Great Leadership qualities look like.  Often we give best practices or strategies for leaders, but what we like about this list is these traits have already been proven and these are habits of gr...

HCP - Ep. 153 - Leadership Development On this Episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss how pastors should be actively engaging in leadership development. Who is serving well, discipling well and assuming leadership roles currently. Those men and women rise to the top of leadership consideration. Larry brings some notes from a Mac Lake blog that discusses how to help move new leaders through a p...

HCP - Ep. 152 - 5 Characteristics of a Multiplying Leader On this podcast, Larry and Drew discuss a recent podcast of JD Greear’s where he discussed content from His book. “Gaining By Losing”. He talked about these 5 characteristics and Larry and Drew add to those ideas with their own stories and pastoral and ministry experience. Greear says the “future belongs to churches that send”, and this con...

HCP - Ep. 151 - The 4 G’s of Gospel Fluency On this episode Larry and Drew begin season 3 with a conversation around a gospel tool meant for personal use as much as to equip and bless others. This tool comes from Jeff Vanderstelt and his book Gospel Fluency.  We each need to be reminded regularly that the Gospel of Jesus should be applied to every area of our lives. There are times where we feel a...

HCP - Ep. 150 - Missionary Care Recap On this episode Larry and Drew recap the Missionary Care Conference they were both just a part of. They discuss the session topics and insight on aspects of the conference and how the Lord moved and met needs of missionaries from around the world. Those topics included Soul Care, Marriage and Family, and Team Dynamics. All of these are applicable to all church...

HCP - Ep. 149 - Mobilizing for Mission (Guest John David Smith) On this episode - Larry and Drew welcome President of BMA Global, John David Smith to the podcast. He shares about the Word, the World and the Work we have to mobilize the church toward mission. This is a powerful podcast that will inspire your church or your own heart toward more obedience to the Great Commission of Jesus. Toward the...

HCP - Ep. 148 - Coaching (Guest Keith Webb) On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew welcome Author and Coaching expert Dr. Keith Webb to the podcast. Keith is the Author of “The Coach Model” and founder of Creative Results Management. As church leaders, there are a myriad of opportunities to coach leaders in our congregations. Keith shares about what it means to listen well and “draw” out peopl...

HCP - Ep. 147 - Guest Steve McCoy with Small Circle On this episode, Larry and Drew welcome Pastor and Discipleship innovator Steve McCoy to the podcast. Steve and his team created Small Circle, a program to help people disciple others in small environments, one on one and similar environments. Steve talks about his story and why discipleship has to be relational and intimate, for the purpose of c...

HCP - Ep. 146- Pastoring Through Crisis - (w Guest Dr.  Brian Sheppard) Today on the podcast the guys welcome Dr. Brian Sheppard to the show. Brian pastors Park View Baptist Church in North Little Rock, AR. On March 31st an F3 tornado tore through Central AR and destroyed Brian’s church property. The discussion today is about his story, how the church is dealing with the devastation, how God is sh...

HCP - Ep. 145 - Becoming a Better Listener On this episode of the HCP, Larry gives some tools on what it means to listen to understand, instead of just listening to respond. Whether your a pastor, husband, father or friend, we probably all have some growing to do when it comes to listening.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podc...

HCP - Ep. 144 - 5 Spiritual Dynamics for a Healthy Church On this episode, Larry and Drew discuss 5 Spiritual Dynamics for what it means to be a healthy, thriving church that God can use. Sadly however we often have roadblocks that keep us from seeing all that God was us to become. The guys discuss both sides, the dynamics we need and the wrong attitudes and realties that keep us from getting ther...

HCP - Ep. 143- Notes from Exponential On this episode of the HCP - Larry and Drew catch up on a few things like Drew’s trip to Exponential (church planting conference in Orlando) and what was helpful there, as well as Larry sharing about a couple in his church that are leaving His fellowship to be missional in the community where they live.   For more information about Exponential go to  exponenti...

HCP - Ep. 142 - Church in Revival - (w Guest Pastor PJ Noland) On this episode of the HCP - Drew and Heidi welcome Pastor PJ Noland of Collective Church in Bryant, AR. This church has been experiencing God in some extraordinary ways over the last month with 45 baptisms, many salvations and rededication’s and PJ shares with us what God is doing in their midst and what kind of prayer culture has bee...

HCP - Ep. 141 - Elements of Revival On this episode of the HCP, Drew and Larry again welcome friend and Pastor’s Advocate Heidi Sorrells to discuss preparing our hearts for what God may want to do in our lives and churches. They talk about the altar as a place dedicated to prayer and seeking the Lord, how testimony helps connect the family of God to the movement of God and the different times God...

HCP - Ep. 140 - PRAYER - A Precursor to Revival (w Heidi Sorrells) On this episode Larry and Drew welcome Healthy Church Solutions  Pastors Advocate Heidi Sorrells to the podcast to talk about prayer and how it prepares our hearts for the movement of God. They give several tips and ideas on how to focus your church family toward prayer and seeking the Lord. They discuss the temptation to critique...

HCP - Ep. 139 - Revival Conversations (w Guest Bill Elliff) On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew welcome Pastor and Author Bill Elliff to the podcast to discuss the Asbury revival as well as the history and Biblical significance of revival.  Bill has attended the Asbury revival since it began and has written about it on his blog. Bill has also written books around this topic and helps to ser...

HCP - Ep. 138- Guests Chase and Gavin Roberts (UT Church Planters) On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew welcome Chase and Gavin Roberts, Church Planters in Morgan, UT and Pastors of Morgan Grace Church.  They discuss the mission field their in, their work as coaches and how the Lord is moving in this almost exclusively Morman town.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To fin...

HCP - Ep. 137 - Paradigms (Part 2) On this podcast Larry and Drew continue the discussion on our Paradigms and the consideration of changing them. As church leaders we can often fall into the rut of doing the same things, the same way, and never question whether or not its the best way to approach the assignment of the Great Commission of Jesus. The trends are telling us less unbelievers are atten...

HCP - Ep. 136 - Paradigms - (part 1) On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss how our paradigm of church and church ministry can affect the outcomes of our discipleship effectiveness. Are we seeking to be as effective as possible in making disciples or do we just simply “do church the way we’ve always done it” and hope for the best in discipleship? This discussion might make you reconsid...