Healthy Church Podcast

HCP - Ep. 185 - 10 Things to STOP Doing This Year! On this podcast Larry picks 10 things from Carey Nieuwhof’s list of 42 things to stop doing for more productivity this year. It’s so easy as church leaders to fill our calendars and lives with a million things and before we now it, we can become exhausted, jaded, or even completely burn out. Maybe you need to slow down this year a little bit and t...

HCP - Ep. 184 - 5 Priorities for the New Year (plus 1) What should we as church leaders be focused on for the new year? It’s easy to start the year on the wrong things. On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss 5 important things to consider and focus on this year. After breaking each of those down, Larry adds one important one that MUST be considered. You can email us at info@healthychur...

HCP - Ep. 183 - 5 Steps to SOLITUDE On this pod, Larry and Drew talk about the extremely overlooked and under realized spiritual discipline of SOLITUDE. Many times in the Gospels, we see Jesus slipping away to have time with the Father for solitude, so what excuse do we have? Busyness, control, apathy may be some of the reasons we choose to not make moments of solitude happen in our lives. The guy...

HCP - Ep. 182 - The Goal (Intimacy) and Means (Discipline) On this podcast Larry and Drew discuss the ultimate goal as a believer in Jesus to have INTIMACY with the Father, but the only way to get there is through Spiritual disciplines. It’s easy to have passion and more challenging to follow through further with discipline. The guys discuss different ways to have a disciplined walk/ministry with...

HCP - Ep. 181 - Be All There - Vision (p2) Larry and Drew revisit the Vision conversation they started a couple of weeks ago. Not matter if you’re a church planter dreaming about the vision God has given you or a seasoned pastor with many years in the saddle - God wants to give us all vision for our lives, families and ministries. Larry also discusses the Vision Frame by Will Mancini from “Church...

HCP - Ep. 180 - 7 Values of Godly Men On this episode of the HCP, Drew shares some content from a talk he gave to the men of his church. This content included 7 values of Godly men. The conversation starts in Gen. 3 around the fall of man and the silence of Adam. Men are named “the remembering one” in Gen. 1 and called to remember and lead others to remember.  Some of this content comes from “The...

HCP - Ep. 179 - Be All There On this podcast Larry starts by quoting Jim Elliot and the comment “Wherever you are be all there”. This discussion leads to a conversation about vision and hope and even spiritual disciplines that move us toward God’s presence where He can use us for His glory. You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podca...

HCP - Ep. 178 - REPOST - Balancing Family and Ministry This is a repost from a previous post, but because of the holidays we thought it to be important to be reminded of what should come first in our lives. REPOST - HCP - Ep. 162 - Balancing Family and Ministry Too often pastors sacrifice their families on the altar of ministry. There are countless ministry marriages that are on the brink of divis...

HCP - Ep. 177 - Special Needs Ministry (Dr. Russell Threet) On this episode, Heidi and Drew welcome Dr. Russell Threet to the podcast. Dr. Threet is a Biblical Counselor and Pastor at West Park Baptist in Ozark, AR, and the parent of a special needs child. Often the church doesn’t realize one of the largest groups of people who need Jesus are families with special needs children. It’s hard for the...

HCP - Ep. 176 - Releasing Your Grip Letting go of control is never easy. Often the personality make up of pastors and church leaders is one that thrives in making decisions and and being in charge to some degree. But we must learn to let go at times. The Apostles had to let go in Acts 6 and focus on the Word and prayer and give other leadership and service opportunities to those around them. What...

HCP - Ep. 175 - Shepherding When People Leave Some people have called it the Great Exodus of people from the church, but no matter how you see it, a LOT of people are leaving the church. The American church in many ways is in decline. How do we as pastors deal with the pain of our people leaving? How do we keep our hearts tender toward people, and our skin thick from criticism. How do we shepherd...

HCP - Ep. 174 - Ministry for the Long Haul (Part 2) This is the second half of a conversation about longevity in ministry, but Larry and Drew give specifics on how to assess where you are and how to help extend your effective years in ministry.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com...

HCP - Ep. 173 - Ministry for the Long Haul On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss what it takes to endure in ministry for a long time. This conversation comes out of Larry celebrating 50 years in ministry this year and what he’s learned along the way about how to continue through difficult seasons and to trust God in the middle of whatever you’re walking through.  You can email us at i...

HCP - Ep. 172 - The Power of Worship On this pod, Larry and Drew discuss how worship plays such a vital role in our relationship with God and our leadership. They discuss the story of Mary and Martha and how often church leaders stress over so much more than leading our people to know and love Jesus and to stay in His presence. You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more info...

HCP - Ep. 171 - Guest - The Kennedy’s On this pod, Larry and Drew are out and Heidi hosts by welcoming some BMA interns who are an entergetic couple on mission and in ministry in Mena, AR. Anthony and Adrienne Kennedy are being used of the Lord greatly in Anthony’s home church and in many ways for discipleship. ALSO! Don’t forget to REGISTER for RECHARGE in OKC, OK!!  http://bmaamerica.org/recharg...

HCP - Ep. 170 - Guest Donny Parrish (Lifeword) On this podcast, Larry and Drew welcome Lifeword Executive Director, Donny Parrish. Donny oversees the ministry of Lifeword that broadcast Gospel programming in over 150 languages around the world. On this podcast Donny shares about Lifeword’s ministry, the upcoming Lifeword Sunday, and the new discipleship initiative FOLLOW! For more info on Lifeword...

HCP - Ep. 169 - Hard Choices, Hard Changes On this pod - Larry and Drew talk about leadership and leadership inevitably comes with hard choices and change. You can try and avoid it and maintain status quo, but that won’t get you new results, or help you more obedient to the mission of Jesus. At some point in your leadership journey you will face hard choices, they have to be made. Someone’s feelin...

HCP - Ep. 168 - Special Guest Buddy Mullins On this episode of the HCP - Larry and Drew welcome long time friend of Larry’s, Buddy Mullins. Singer/Songwriter and guest artist for the ReCHARGE conference coming up Oct. 4-6 in Moore, OK. Get to know Buddy! Buddy Mullins is best known as an outstanding vocal artist and was inducted into the Gospel Music Association’s Hall of Fame for his time singing...

HCP - Ep. 167 - Redeeming Our Time On this podcast Larry shares 7 tips on how to understand the value of the time we have and how to best steward that time to glorify God. The Bible gives us many directives about living with an awareness of the time we have and Eph. 5 talks about “redeeming the time because the days we are in are evil”. Being aware of our time, managing our time, stewarding our ti...

HCP - Ep. 166 - Helping Churches Get Healthy (with Guest Chris Yeager) On this episode, Larry and Drew welcome guest Chris Yeager to the podcast. Chris is the Missions Director for the BMA of Mississippi. Chris talks about his desire to help churches to be as healthy as they can be and he mentioned a process of Renovation, Revitalization and Replanting. Chris has served in many states as a church...

HCP - Ep. 165 - Leading Organizational Change It’s never easy, but it’s necessary! We must change at times. We never change our mission or message, but we MUST change our methods in order to advance the mission of Jesus forward. On this podcast, Larry and Drew discuss what it takes to make major organizational changes. Larry gave us a process that looks like this: Increase urgency Build guiding te...

HCP - Ep. 164 - Leading Through Church Discipline (Part 2) On this episode, Larry gives us several reasons for Biblical church discipline and they might surprise you. He also shares about a recent season at his home church where they had to walk out this very topic as a result of unrepentant sin in the life of some of their people. Church discipline is always to be restorative not punitive. Our he...

HCP - Ep. 163 - Leading Through Church Discipline (part 1) One of the most difficult things to do in ministry is to follow the Biblical directive of church discipline. Some churches and leaders have led poorly through this and others have avoided it all together. In this podcast Larry and Drew talk about what it should look like from a loving and relationship perspective to encourage people to obe...

HCP - Ep. 162 - Balancing Family and Ministry Too often pastors sacrifice their families on the altar of ministry. There are countless ministry marriages that are on the brink of division or divorce because a pastor has prioritized his ministry over his marriage. On this episode, we discuss that tension and what needs to happen in the church and in our relationships to protect our families and hel...

HCP - Ep. 161 - Resources for Missional Neighboring On the podcast, Larry and Drew discuss the topic and Great Commandment to LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR! We know it, we teach it, do we do it? What does this look like for our congregations. There are several suggestions and resources given in this conversation that could help you encourage your people to be more present in the lives of those around us with...