Larry Barker & Drew Cline

Healthy Church Podcast

Religion EN ↓ 310 episodes

The Healthy Church Podcast is an honest conversation about what it means to be a part of a healthy church. There are no perfect churches - because they’re all filled with imperfect people led by imperfect leaders. But by God’s grace we can begin to dialogue about what changes can be made in our lives as leaders, and in the churches we serve, in order to better Love God and His people. For more information and other resources go to HealthyChurchPodcast. Com.

Author

Larry Barker & Drew Cline

Category

Religion

Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

Where to listen?

Podcasts in the app Replaio Radio Coming soon

Podcasts are coming to the app soon. Install now and be the first to see a whole new take on podcasts

Get it on Google Play Install for free Android 5M+ downloads · 4.8 rating iOS soon

Episodes

HCP - Ep. 209 - Healthy Church Solutions 02.07.2024

HCP - Ep. 209 - Healthy Church Solutions On this podcast Host Larry Barker and Pastor’s Advocate Heidi Sorrells sit down to re-introduce you to exactly what Healthy Church Solutions is all about.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook! For a video of today’s po...

HCP - Ep. 208 - Guest Jonathan Cofer (Family Discipleship) 25.06.2024

HCP - Ep. 208 - Guest Jonathan Cofer (Family Discipleship) On this podcast Heidi and Larry welcome guest Jonathan Cofer to the show. Jonathan is the student pastor at Antioch Baptist Church in Conway, AR. The theme of the show is Family Discipleship and how parents can better equip their teens for life in Jesus.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about T...

HCP 207 - **REPOST of The 4 G's of Gospel Fluency 18.06.2024

HCP 207 - **REPOST of The 4 G's of Gospel Fluency HCP - Ep. 151 - The 4 G’s of Gospel Fluency On this episode Larry and Drew begin season 3 with a conversation around a gospel tool meant for personal use as much as to equip and bless others. This tool comes from Jeff Vanderstelt and his book Gospel Fluency.  We each need to be reminded regularly that the Gospel of Jesus should be applied to e...

HCP - Ep. 206 - (Guest Dr. John David Smith) Transparency Vs. Vulnerability 11.06.2024

HCP - Ep. 205 - (Guest John David Smith) Transparency Vs. Vulnerability On this podcast, Larry and Drew welcome BMA Global President Dr. John David Smith. John David talks about the difference and parameters of Transparency and Vulnerability. They are not the same thing, though one affects the other and both are required for effective leadership development.  You can email us at info@healthychurch...

HCP - Ep. 205 - Guest Elvis Garcia (Hispanic Church Planting) 04.06.2024

HCP - Ep. 204 - Guest Elvis Garcia (Hispanic Church Planting) On this episode, Larry and Drew welcome good friend Elvis Garcia. Elvis is the Director of Hispanic Church Planting for BMA Global and for BMA State of TX. On this pod, he shares his history of church planting and excitement around what the Lord is doing in Hispanic Mission around the country. Elvis is a catalyzer and sodal leader in mi...

REPOST - HCP Ep. 204 - Leadership Traps 29.05.2024

This is a REPOST of Ep. 155 - Leadership Traps.  HCP - Ep. 155 - Leadership Traps As human beings, church leaders have to be careful to watch for pitfalls of our humanity and traps that arise in ministry. It’s an ongoing battle to fight our flesh and rest and trust in our God to guard our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus. On this episode, the guys discuss 7 traps we need to be aware of. These idea...

HCP - Ep. 203 - Guest - Nathan Brewer (Ministry to Afghans) 21.05.2024

HCP - Ep. 203 - Nathan Brewer (Ministry to Afghans) On this episode, Larry and Drew welcome church OKC planter Nathan Brewer to the pod to discuss how his plant is going, but also how God is bringing Afghan refugees to their church and events. Nathan shares how this all began and how God has given him a heart for this people and churches can begin to move in the direction of focused mission to loc...

HCP - Ep. 202 - 12 Indispensable Leadership Skills (P. 2) 14.05.2024

HCP - Ep. 202 - 12 Indispensable Leadership Skills (P. 2) This pod is a continuation of the previous conversation on these 12 leadership skills, and Larry adds them into 4 categories as well.  On this podcast Larry and Drew discuss the topic of leadership. These 12 skills are from the Leadership Summit. Yes many pastors and church planters have vision but do they also have on-going awareness for g...

HCP - Ep. 201 - 12 Indispensable Leadership Skills (P. 1) 07.05.2024

HCP - Ep. 201 - 12 Indispensable Leadership Skills (P. 1) On this podcast Larry and Drew discuss the topic of leadership, and introduce this topic of these 12 skills from the Leadership Summit. Yes many pastors and church planters have vision but do they also have on-going awareness for growth, learning, and new skill development? One of the favorite quotes from this podcast is “It’s not about sel...

HCP - Ep. 200 - Substance Over Style 30.04.2024

HCP - Ep. 200 - Substance Over Style On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew discuss the importance of valuing substance over style and how we often struggle with different aspects of ministry in this area. We sometimes prioritize things like quantity over quality or decisions over discipleship. There’s also a small celebrations for the 200th episode! Thanks for listening! You can email us at i...

HCP - Ep. 199 - Building Blocks of Systems 23.04.2024

HCP - Ep. 199 - Building Block of Systems Today on the Podcast Larry and Drew discuss 7 building blocks for systems that can help you evaluate and establish structure for growth. The 7 blocks are: 1.     Attitude – What attitude or thinking needs to be fostered or corrected? 2.     Behaviors - What are the behaviors that reflect ownership and commitment to the system? 3.     Sequence – How? What a...

HCP - Ep. 198 - Guest Dr. Jonathan Montgomery 16.04.2024

HCP - Ep. 198 - Guest  Dr. Jonathan Montgomery On this podcast Larry and Drew welcome Dr. Jonathan Montgomery from BMA Global, who oversees their missionary care department. Jonathan recently finished his Phd in Biblical Counseling which is a wonderful resource for caring for missionaries around the world.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Hea...

HCP - Ep. 197 - P.R.A.Y. (P.2 - A&Y) 09.04.2024

HCP - Ep. 197 - P.R.A.Y. (P.2 - A&Y) This is part 2 of the podcast with Heidi Sorrells where we discuss the final two letters of the acronym for P.R.A.Y. and how we can be praying for the National Meeting and BMA Global churches in general.  Show note links:  http://bmamissions.org/prayerguide/ https://healthychurchsolutions.org/self-guided-courses/how-to-create-a-prayer-system-at-your-church/...

HCP - Ep. 197 - P.R.A.Y. (P.1 P&R) 02.04.2024

HCP - Ep. 197 - P.R.A.Y. (P.1 P&R) Larry and Drew welcome our friend and Pastor’s advocate from Healthy Church Solutions to the pod today to discuss the prayer initiative that BMA Global is asking churches and individuals to be a part of for the National Meeting coming up in a couple of weeks.  Today we focus on the first two letters of the P.R.A.Y. acronym (Praise and Repent) and how we have...

HCP - Ep. 196 - 4 C’s of Gethsemane Prayer 26.03.2024

HCP - Ep. 196 - 4 C’s of Gethsemane Prayer On this Podcast Larry and Drew discuss the prayer of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. This was when the disciples are sleeping, before being arrested and just before His trials and crucifixion.  Jesus modeled for us different aspects of what Prayer can do for us, in us and through us.   Jesus communed with the Father, received clarity from the Father, w...

HCP - Ep. 195 - Spaciousness (w Heidi Sorrells) 19.03.2024

HCP - Ep. 195 - Spaciousness (w Heidi Sorrells) On this episode, Larry and Drew welcome Healthy Church Solutions Pastors Advocate Heidi Sorrells to talk about this idea of Spaciousness. Often in ministry we feel trapped, closed in, surrounded, but Heidi challenges us to consider that God calls us to abundance and life and that even in difficult moments of life, we can know wider places. If you’re...

HCP - Ep. 194 - Kevin Marsico (3 Thirds of Discipleship) 12.03.2024

HCP - Ep. 194 - Kevin Marsico (3 Thirds) On this episode of the Healthy Church Podcast, Larry and Drew welcome friend Kevin Marsico to the podcast. Kevin is the VP of Acceleration for Dynamic Church Planting International -  DCPI. Larry and Kevin give highlights from their time at the Exponential Conference and then Kevin shares what he calls the 3 Thirds (Belief, Skills, Practice and Looking Back...

HCP - Ep. 193 - REPOST of Ep. 165 - Leading Organizational Change 04.03.2024

HCP - Ep. 165 - Leading Organizational Change It’s never easy, but it’s necessary! We must change at times. We never change our mission or message, but we MUST change our methods in order to advance the mission of Jesus forward. On this podcast, Larry and Drew discuss what it takes to make major organizational changes. Larry gave us a process that looks like this: Increase urgency Build guiding te...

HCP - Ep. 192 - 5 Discipleship Environments 27.02.2024

HCP - Ep. 192 - 5 Discipleship Environments On this episode of the HCP, Larry and Drew continue some of the conversation from the interview with Jeff Vanderstelt. Jeff mentions in his new book 180: A Return to Disciple making, 5 different environments for discipleship. Some refer to these as the Biblical numbers of Jesus’s ministry. They offer a great breakdown of different group sizes and focuses...

HCP - Ep. 191 - Special Guest Jeff Vanderstelt 20.02.2024

HCP - Ep. 191 - Special Guest Jeff Vanderstelt On this podcast Larry and Drew welcome Author and Pastor Jeff Vanderstelt. Jeff is the founder of the Soma family of Churches and Visionary Director of Saturate. Jeff has served at Churches as large as Willow Creek Community Church in Chicago, and as small as the house church he currently shepherds. He has a heart for soul health and discipleship in t...

HCP - Ep. 190 - Prayer and Fasting (P.2 - 10 Biblical Fasts) 13.02.2024

HCP - Ep. 190 - 10 Biblical Fasts On this episode of the HCP, Larry shares 10 fasts from scripture that deal with different aspects of fasting and what we’re hoping to accomplish or how we’re asking god to move. These 10 ideas come from Elmer Towns book “Fasting for Spiritual Breakthrough” “Fasting for Spiritual Breakthrough” - Elmer Towns https://www.amazon.com/Fasting-Spiritual-Breakthrough-Prac...

HCP - Ep. 189 - Prayer and Fasting (P.1 - 5 Steps) 06.02.2024

HCP - Ep. 189 - Prayer and Fasting (P.1 - 5 Steps) The Bible talks about fasting as something that is expected in the life of the believer, and on this podcast Larry and Drew discuss how this is a difficult but important spiritual discipline to learn. Larry gives 5 simple considerations to begin your fasting journey and the guys discuss the benefits and Biblical precedence for how fasting is a ble...

HCP - Ep. 188 - Dealing with Ism’s - Radical Individualism 29.01.2024

HCP - Ep. 188 - Dealing with Ism’s - Radical Individualism Every church pastor is dealing with “radical individualism” either in his own heart or in his congregation. Part of our sin nature is to make everything about us. Part of being American is to celebrate our “rugged individual spirit”, it’s the American way - but is it Jesus’ way? Without exception Jesus and the Apostles call us to connected...

HCP - Ep. 187 - 5 Spiritual Laws 25.01.2024

HCP - Ep. 187 - 5 Spiritual Laws On this podcast Larry shares 5 Spiritual Laws that can help guide leaders in their calling.  You can email us at info@healthychurchpodcast.com or To find more information about The Healthy Church Podcast go to: http://www.healthychurchpodcast.com or find us on FaceBook! For a video of today’s podcast, you can find it on FaceBook or YouTube!

HCP - Ep. 186 - Identity In Christ 16.01.2024

HCP - Ep. 186 - Identity In Christ As leaders we often attach our personal identity to our successes, failures, titles, or other faulty foundations. As believers in Jesus, we should always find our identity in Him alone, not our wins or losses, not our numbers or failures, but only in Jesus. Larry offers some great examples of lies we believe and postures we should have to truly find our IDENTITY...

Listen to the Healthy Church Podcast podcast in Replaio

Radio and podcasts in one app - free, with no sign-up. Install today and do not miss the launch

Get it on Google Play

Replaio is not a podcast publisher; show names, artwork and audio belong to their authors and are distributed through public RSS feeds.