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Healthcare is Hard: A Podcast for Insiders
Healthcare is Hard: A Podcast for Insiders views healthcare transformation through the lens of prominent leaders across the industry. Through intimate one-on-one discussions with executives, policy advisors, and other “insiders,” each episode dives deep into the pressing challenges that come with changing how we care for people. Hear the unique perspectives of these industry leaders to get a better understanding of what is happening today, the challenges across the healthcare ecosystem, and how innovation is really shaping the future of healthcare delivery.
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Episodes
Designing Digital Change for Scale: Sutter Health’s Laura Wilt on AI, Leadership and the Human Side of Transformation 25.06.2026 43:08
Growing up on a farm in rural Missouri, and even through college, a career in healthcare was never in the forefront of Laura Wilt’s mind. She studied finance at Tulane and thought she might go into banking, but a decision to take a job at Epic changed everything. What began as an unexpected first step into healthcare IT quickly became a career, as Laura found she could use technology to make a rea...
Why Healthcare Leadership Is Harder Than Ever: Cedars-Sinai’s Tom Priselac on Culture, Change and Cost 28.05.2026 39:19
Cedars-Sinai has evolved from a community hospital to a major academic health system with an international reputation for quality care, community service, research and education. Much of that evolution and expansion took place under the leadership of Tom Priselac, who served as President and CEO for 30 years, until his retirement in 2024. After joining Cedars-Sinai in 1979, Priselac spent nearly h...
A Giant Leap for Healthcare: Dr. Bob Wachter on AI, Clinical Workflows and the Patient-Doctor Relationship 16.04.2026 46:44
Dr. Bob Wachter describes his career as the result of “what happens when a political science major becomes an academic physician.” Rather than focus on one specialty or scientific domain, he became fascinated by the healthcare system itself and has spent more than 40 years examining how care is organized, where it breaks down, and how technology can help make it better. The author of more than 300...
From Pilots to Production: Boston Children’s John Brownstein on the Next Phase of AI in Healthcare 19.03.2026 42:45
Dr. John Brownstein has been on the leading edge of digital health since medical school, where he was drawn to epidemiology because of the opportunity to use data sets for large-scale impact beyond the exam room. He’s been on a hunt for data ever since, shaping a career that has spanned public health, technology, startups, and healthcare innovation. Dr. Brownstein helped develop Google Flu Trends,...
DC’s Ambitious Plans for Modernizing Health Tech: U.S. DOGE Service Administrator & CMS Strategic Advisor, Amy Gleason 19.02.2026 38:35
The daughter of a hospital administrator, Amy Gleason never considered a career in the public sector – she went straight into healthcare. As an emergency room nurse, she started to see the dangers that unfold when healthcare providers don’t have access to the information they need to treat patients. Those experiences drove her towards a tech career in the emerging electronic health records space b...
Glimmers of Nonpartisan Progress: Decoding ACCESS, TEMPO and the Latest Government Healthcare Initiatives 15.01.2026 46:40
After three decades working to deliver easy, fast and cost-effective patient experiences through technology, Ryan Howells is more optimistic about the future than he’s ever been before. At a time when healthcare has been at the center of polarizing and partisan politics, Ryan is focused on an area foundational to digital health that he says draws consensus across party lines: data exchange and int...
340B Unpacked for the Holidays: Policy, Controversy, and Impact 18.12.2025 35:07
Sitting at the intersection of healthcare policy, hospital finance, and patient access, the 340B drug discount program is a hot button issues in the pharmacy space. The program is critically important to providers that serve high volumes of low income and vulnerable patient populations, but it’s drawing increasing scrutiny. 340B was established in 1992 as part of the Public Health Services Act to...
The Big Beautiful Maze of Health Policy and Innovation 20.11.2025 32:28
From being at the center of some of the most significant shifts in U.S. healthcare policy over the past two decades, Liz Fowler can offer valuable perspective in uncertain times. In her most recent government role, Liz served as director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (CMMI), an organization she helped create a decade earlier. As Chief Health Counsel at the Senate Finance Comm...
Lessons from Public Sector Leadership: Former CMS Administrator and FDA Commissioner, Dr. Mark McClellan 16.10.2025 48:10
Dr. Mark McClellan has served as a Member of the President’s Council of Economic Advisors, Administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), and Commissioner of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). But his experiences before, and accomplishments following these leadership roles at the highest levels of government health policy are equally important to his perspective...
Emerging Technologies (Part 3): Microsoft’s Chief Architect for Health on the Saga of Interoperability and AI 18.09.2025 48:06
Dr. Josh Mandel says his first love was software. But on a whim, while studying computer science and software engineering at MIT, he took a course that opened his eyes to the world of medicine and genetics. It changed the trajectory of his career away from software – but only temporarily. He entered medical school after earning a bachelor’s degree in computer science and began rotating through Bos...
Emerging Technologies (Part 2): Past, Present & Future of Healthcare Interoperability with HTD Health's Brendan Keeler 21.08.2025 49:12
Brendan Keeler’s path into healthcare interoperability has been anything but straightforward. After early stints implementing Epic in the U.S. and Europe, he helped hundreds of startups connect to provider and payer systems at Redox, Zus Health and Flexpa before taking the reins of the Interoperability Practice at HTD Health. Along the way, his Health API Guy blog turned dense policy updates into...
Emerging Technologies (Part 1): Inside Perspectives from Epic’s Seth Hain 17.07.2025 49:02
Seth Hain has spent two decades at Epic, watching the electronic health record evolve from digital filing cabinet to care-delivery platform. Now he thinks the entire stack of software is being re-imagined, only this time it isn’t mobile or cloud driving the change, but generative AI. In a conversation with Keith Figlioli, Hain explains how new tooling, cheaper compute and larger context windows...
How a Tech-Minded CEO Sees the Future: CareFirst’s Brian D. Pieninck on Medicare, Medicaid & the AI-Driven Inflection Point in Healthcare 19.06.2025 45:17
Brian D. Pieninck didn’t take a conventional path to healthcare leadership. He started his career as an 18-year-old IT contractor and spent two decades working across the industry before becoming President and CEO of CareFirst Blue Cross Blue Shield. He now also serves as Chair of the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, bringing both local and national perspective to the role. In this episode, Ke...
Medicaid Uncovered: Decoding the System 15.05.2025 44:57
Kody Kinsley has been called many things—operator, innovator, Medicaid “nerd”—but above all, he’s a fierce advocate for the health and well-being of the populations Medicaid serves. Now a senior advisor at the Milken Institute and recently North Carolina’s Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kinsley joins Keith Figlioli for a wide-ranging conversation about how Medicaid works, why it matters,...
Where Medicare Stands—And Where It’s Headed with Aetna’s Dr. Ali Khan 29.04.2025 49:25
Dr. Ali Khan has spent his career at the intersection of medicine, public policy, and value-based care. He’s also been at the forefront of some of the country's most innovative care delivery models—from Iora Health and CareMore to Oak Street Health and now Aetna, where he serves as Chief Medical Officer of Medicare at Aetna, a CVS Health company. In this episode, Keith Figlioli sits down with...
Opportunities in Oncology (Part 3): Getting Deep Into Patient Care with Mass General Brigham’s Head of Radiation Oncology 20.03.2025 37:19
The first two episodes in this Healthcare is Hard podcast series on “Opportunities in Oncology” explored the relationship between academic medical centers and community care, with guests Dr. Stephen Schleicher from Tennessee Oncology, and Dr. Harlan Levine from City of Hope. For the third and final episode in the series, Dr. Daphne Haas-Kogan joined Keith Figlioli for a conversation that dives mor...
Opportunities in Oncology (Part 2): Balancing Cutting-Edge Research and Community Care 20.02.2025 40:47
Dr. Harlan Levine began his career practicing internal medicine but soon moved into business leadership roles at national healthcare organizations to help improve the dysfunction with payer-provider relationships that he experienced firsthand as a physician. At United Health Group, Dr. Levine joined as clinical lead of the team that launched Optum, where he subsequently served as chief medical off...
Opportunities in Oncology (Part 1): The Intersection of Clinical Care, Business and Policy 23.01.2025 48:19
There’s been a massive gap in oncology where people who have been responsible for a dramatic increase in the standard of care have lacked a solid understanding of the business, payment and policy constructs required to deliver it. Dr. Stephen Schleicher has spent the early part of his career working to fill that gap. Dr. Schleicher entered medical school with an interest in oncology, anchored by a...
Election Implications (Part 4): Forecasting For Healthcare As The Second Trump Administration Takes Shape 12.12.2024 36:09
Elements of the new Trump administration are coming into focus as announcements of key healthcare appointments and nominations provide indications for what the market can expect starting in January. To dissect the impact these changes might have, Wall Street Analyst Jeff Garro joined Keith Figlioli to wrap up a four-part series of episodes on election implications. Previous episodes featured conve...
Election Implications (Part 3): JP Morgan’s Read on Trump 2.0 and What’s Next for Healthcare 21.11.2024 45:44
Healthcare was not a major focus during the 2024 election where other key issues drove most of the discussion. This left a vacuum around specific healthcare policies and what to expect from a second Trump Administration. With few details available and political capital to spend from the ‘red sweep’ this election, healthcare stakeholders are pondering how much of the incoming administration’s prefe...
Election Implications (Part 2): This Wall Street Analyst Agrees, “Healthcare is Hard” 30.10.2024 30:42
With the White House and Congress up for grabs this election, anticipation in the healthcare industry is high. Shifts in healthcare policy will influence how care is paid for and delivered, which will of course influence the flow of investment dollars in both public and private markets. During the first episode of a four-part series on election implications, beltway insider Julie Barnes laid out p...
Election Implications (Part 1): Angst, Uncertainty and an Urge for Calm from Maverick Health Policy’s Julie Barnes 26.09.2024 45:42
Julie Barnes has made a career helping health plans, tech vendors, investors and others in the healthcare space decipher health policy. She’s a former Hill staffer who earned her law degree and spent a decade in corporate law serving healthcare clients before moving to policy think tanks, business consulting, and founding Maverick Health Policy. At Maverick, she provides strategic advice on federa...
What’s the Difference Between Innovation and Performance Improvement? 29.08.2024 38:00
OSF HealthCare stands as a model health system for those who want to do innovation right. One of the defining characteristics of the Peoria, Illinois-based system is how it aligns innovation with operations for everyone – all 24,000 employees across 159 locations, including 16 hospitals. Becky Buchen is responsible for driving innovation at OSF HealthCare. As SVP of Innovation Operations she works...
Help or Harm? How CHAI is Mitigating the Risk of AI in Healthcare 18.07.2024 54:30
With great power comes great responsibility and in healthcare, those words may have never held more meaning than they do with the advent of artificial intelligence. AI most certainly has the power to transform healthcare, and those in the industry working to develop and use it have an immense responsibility to shape principles that ensure these technologies help, not harm. The Coalition for Health...
Live from DHIS East: Mass General Brigham CIO, Christopher Coburn 20.06.2024 44:17
Chris Coburn has been driving health system innovation for decades. He is currently chief innovation officer at Mass General Brigham (MGB), the nation’s largest academic research enterprise with over $16 billion in annual revenue, 1.5 million patient visits and more than $2.4 billion in research expenditures. MGB also has a managed care organization, out-patient facilities and community hospitals....
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