Kathryn De Bruin and Ronda Evans

Family Therapy Express

Health EN ↓ 56 episodes

Welcome to the the Family Family Express! We are glad you are joining us as we traverse the vast landscape of Emotionally Focused Family Therapy (EFFT) landscape including cultural attunement, lessons learned, shared fears, and the passion and curiosity that bonds our EFFT community. In addition, your hosts and guest speakers will share how lived experience have shaped and influenced their professional trajectories while keeping our conversations centered around attachment theory. Kathryn and Ronda are grateful to Sue Johnson and other mentors for the development of EFFT.

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Kathryn De Bruin and Ronda Evans

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Latest episode

Jun 30, 2026

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Episodes

E31. EFFT with Parents who have adult children. Conversations with Shenny Karmali, a Kenyan-Canadian family therapist. 25.02.2025

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Shenny Karmali, MSW, RSW who is sought out for her work with parents and their adult children, and even grandparents. Thank you for listening!  Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn a...

E30. The Use of Structure in EFFT with Jussi Light, LMFT 11.02.2025

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Jussi Light, LMFT who has an abundance of experience in working with families in family therapy using an integrated therapy approach and today our conversation focuses on the use of structure in EFFT. Thank...

E29. EFFT with Adult Children with Rachel Thomas, LMFT 28.01.2025

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Rachel Thomas. All Aboard ! Thank you for listening!  Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and therapists,...

E28. Helping Families with Youth with Screen Time with Laurie Branch, LPC 14.01.2025

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Laurie Branch. All Aboard ! Thank you for listening!  Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and therapists,...

E27 Families with Children who have Disabilities and Illnesses with Wendy Gage, MSW, RSW, CC-PMH 31.12.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today we speak with Wendy Gage about her speciality of working with families who have children with disabilities and illnesses. All Aboard ! Thank you for listening!  Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn...

E26. Validating Parents with Nancy Aikin, LMFT 17.12.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Nancy Aikin, LMFT in the Sacramento, CA area. She has specialized in working with families with teens in Hold Me Tight Let Me Go workshops. All Aboard ! Thank you for listening!  Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEE...

E25. DSM and Attachment from a Dual Medical and Therapy Perspective with Dr. Tat-Ying Wong 04.12.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Dr. Tat-Ying, a dual family medical physician and EFFT family therapist located in Toronto, Canada, who specializes in groups. All Aboard ! Thank you for listening!  Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified...

E24. Attachment in Action Series: Pre-school Stage 19.11.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today is our second installment in the Attachment in Action Series: Pre-School Stage (3-4 years old). All Aboard ! 1:00. A main developmental aspect of this age/stage is the growing ability of perception and absorbing informati...

E23. Attachment in Action Series: Toddler Stage 05.11.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today is our second installment in the Attachment in Action Series: Toddler Stage. All Aboard ! 3:30. Clear and direct and sequential language because the toddler takes in information and starts to draw conclusions. 5:50. Kathr...

E22. Integrating EFFT and Play Therapy 22.10.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Liliana Baylon, Ph. D. and we discuss integrating play therapy into EFFT when there are families with kids under the age of 12.   All Aboard ! 1:00. Play is the way that a baby/infant explores and experiences the world a...

E21. Attachment in Action Series: Infant Stage 08.10.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. This is the first installment of our Attachment in Action Series. In this episode we focus on attachment in the infant stage. We underscore the importance of assessing for the emotional and relational context at the time of birth and the i...

E20. EFFT Assessment of the Family System with Norma Brito de la Cuesta, Part Two 25.09.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest Norma Brito de la Cuesta from Costa Rica. Norma has a masters degree, and she has a vast history of experience in the field of psychology, and she is a practicing family therapist. You can hear part one of Norma's intervi...

E19. Working through Shame Blocks with Parents in Stage 1 with Dr James Hawkins 10.09.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Dr. James Hawkins from Arkansas. Our episode focuses on shame as a parental block.   All Aboard ! 1:00. James opens with what he likes about in EFFT. 5:20. We set our episode focus on parental shame and the impact on attac...

E18. EFFT Assessment of the Family System with Norma Brito de la Cuesta, Part One 27.08.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest Norma Brito de la Cuesta from Costa Rica. Norma has a masters degree, and she has a vast history of experience in the field of psychology, and she is a practicing family therapist. All Aboard ! 0:55. Norma talks about her vas...

E17. Getting Technical with EFFT Stage 1: 4 Goals to Achieve with Parents with Gail Palmer, MSW, RMFT 13.08.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Gail Palmer, MSW, RMFT, one of the founders of EFFT. All Aboard ! 2:05. (Goal #2) Parental/Caregiver Intent. 4:30. (Goal #1) Parent/Caregiver Buy-In. Clinician advocates for family therapy with parent involvement. 6:40. St...

E16. Gender Affirming Therapists and Therapy with Dr. Laura Castro 30.07.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Laura Castro, LMFT, PhD. whose life passion and purpose is as a gender affirmative therapist who helps queer adolescents, adults, and families overcome trauma, complex PTSD and relational trauma, and live authentically. Al...

E15. Genetic Mirrors, Connection & Loss with Pendo Galukande, MA 16.07.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Pendo Galukande, licensed counselor in Uganda and graduate student in the US, and we are talking about loss, genetic mirrors, and maintaining connection with loved ones beyond time and space. All Aboard ! 2:50. Pendo descr...

E14. Engaging Muslim Families with Cultural Humility and Understanding with Dalia Sileem-Naguib 02.07.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Dalia Sileem-Naguib who will speak with us about engaging Muslim Families with Cultural Humility and Understanding. All Aboard ! Dalia opens our conversation speaking about the families she works with and the presenting is...

E13. How Connection Brings Hope to Neurodiverse Families with Elizabeth Gillespie, MAC, MEd, LMFT 18.06.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Elizabeth Gillespie, MAC, MEd, LMFT from Boulder, Colorado. Our conversation centers the importance of connection with neurodiversity. All Aboard ! 1:14 Elizabeth tells us how her path led her to work with neurodiversity a...

E12. Parents and Therapists Getting Comfortable with Identity Development in their LGBTQ Queer Children with Abraham Mehboob Alam, LMFTA 04.06.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Abraham Mehboob Alam, LMFTA (they/them). Our conversation today centers around identity development and some helpful guidelines in approaching family therapy with queer youth. All Aboard ! 1:00 Kathryn and Ronda ask for Ab...

E11. Preparing Teens to Launch with Dr Katherine Stavrianopoulos 21.05.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Dr. Katherine Stavrianopoulos. Our conversations centers around the unique developmental stage of adolescence with brain changes and the seismic relational shift. All Aboard ! 1:39  Dr. Stavros tells us where she starts wi...

E10. Families Responding to Suicidal Ideation in their Children with Preston Herdt, LMFT 07.05.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Preston Herdt, LMFTA. Our conversation centers around helping families respond to suicidal thoughts in their children (abbreviated as SI). All Aboard ! 1:10 Preston tells us about how we got started working with youth with...

E9. Honoring Sue Johnson, Creator of Emotionally Focused Therapy 02.05.2024

Welcome back to The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans. In today's episode we honor and remember Sue Johnson, creator and founder of EFT, and we share our grief and loss with each other, and with our listeners. Thank you for listening!  Kathryn is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and t...

E8. Fostering Empathy in Children and Pre-Teens with Dr. Yamilka Urquiza 23.04.2024

Welcome back for the next adventure of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans. Today’s guest is Dr. Yamilka Urquiza and she will speak about her research into fostering empathy in kids. All Aboard ! 1:41  Dr. Urquiza tells us about her upbringing in Cuba in a multi-generational households. 10:50 Her research findings included a reciprocity of caregiving between the genera...

E7. A Journey into Practicing EFFT with Allie Zangari, LMHC, LMFT 09.04.2024

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin and Ronda Evans where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today’s guest is Allie Zangari, LMHC, LMFT from Florida. Allie shares about her journey into EFFT. All Aboard ! 1:05 Allie tells us how she applied EFT for couples to EFT for families. 3:00 Allie and Kathryn talk about how the flexibility...

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