Kathryn De Bruin and Ronda Evans

Family Therapy Express

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Welcome to the the Family Family Express! We are glad you are joining us as we traverse the vast landscape of Emotionally Focused Family Therapy (EFFT) landscape including cultural attunement, lessons learned, shared fears, and the passion and curiosity that bonds our EFFT community. In addition, your hosts and guest speakers will share how lived experience have shaped and influenced their professional trajectories while keeping our conversations centered around attachment theory. Kathryn and Ronda are grateful to Sue Johnson and other mentors for the development of EFFT.

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Kathryn De Bruin and Ronda Evans

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E60. Imposter syndrome with Katie Humilde 30.06.2026 28:23

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Katie Humilde Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and therapists, and AAMFT Approved Supervisors. You can f...

E55. Parental Alliance in EFFT with Sara Lamb and Devonne Strachan 09.06.2026 37:11

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest stoday are Sara Lamb, MEd, RCT, CCC and Devonne Strachan, M.S.W., R.S.W. They will speak about parental alliance in EFFT. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marria...

E54. Good Moms Lose It Too: The Truth about Parental Anger and Regulation with Michelle Puster, LPC 05.05.2026 40:33

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Michelle Puster, LPC in North Carolina. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and therapists, and AAMFT Appro...

E53. Adult Siblings in Family Therapy with Rebecca Fitzgerald, LCSW 31.03.2026 40:06

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Rebecca Fitzgerald, LCSW from North Carolina who is speaking about parent-child estrangement. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family thera...

E52. When Neurodiversity Isn’t Yet Named: Therapeutic Interventions with Care with Dr Kade Sharp. 10.03.2026 46:30

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Dr. Kade Sharp who will speak about what to do when someone does not want to acknowledge neurodiversity or autism. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marr...

E51. The Value of the Simulation Experience for Learning EFFT Therapeutic Skills with Dr. Bobbie Posmontier 17.02.2026 42:54

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Dr. Bobbie Posmontier, Professor, Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner, and the Evelyn Lauder Endowed Chair at Hunter-Bellevue School of Nursing. Dr. Posmontier leads innovative curriculum initiatives...

E50. Leaning into Children's Angry Feelings: the why and how with Stephanie Chimienti, RP 27.01.2026 47:25

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Stephanie Chimienti,RP, MA in the Toronto area. Stephanie will speak about anger and aggression in kids in the therapy room. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both lic...

E49. Estrangement in adult family relationships: perspectives and support with Rebecca Fitzgerald, LCSW 06.01.2026 33:51

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Rebecca Fitzgerald, LCSW from North Carolina who is speaking about parent-child estrangement. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family thera...

E48. The Healing Quest: Using D&D to Level Up Family and Group Communication with Riley Fairgrieve, LPC, NCC 16.12.2025 39:32

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Riley Fairgrieve, LPC, NCC. Riley speaks about the use of therapeutic tabletop role play gaming in families and peer groups -- in his case, D & D, Dungeons and Dragons. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certi...

E47. Neurodiversity in Family Therapy: Spotting the Signs and Starting the Conversation with Kade Sharp 25.11.2025 44:48

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Dr. Kade Sharp who will speak about spotting the signs of autism spectrum disorder and starting the conversation with families. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both...

E46. Co-therapy in EFFT with Katie Humilde and Angela Bishop 04.11.2025 44:54

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Katie Humilde and Angela Bishop and they are speaking about using co-therapy in EFFT which they use together. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage...

E45. Authenticity with Robyn Stewart-Amarra, LMFT 14.10.2025 44:10

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Robyn Stewart, counselor in Atlanta. Robyn speaks with us and you about authenticity in self both personally and professionally. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both...

E44. Fatherhood with Jeremy George LCMHC 23.09.2025 55:55

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Jeremy George, LMHCH therapist in North Carolina. Jeremy speaks with us about one of his passions -- fatherhood and working with fathers in family therapy. Jeremy speaks about the "five A's" -- At...

E43. Walking through essential elements of the EFFT model with Colleen Anderson of South Africa 09.09.2025 40:35

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Colleen Anderson, therapist in South Africa. Colleen recently attended an EFFT prior to this recording and she provides a comprehensive look at the essential elements of the EFFT model based on her recent imm...

E42. A conversation with Dr. Sean Davis about feminine and masculine energy 19.08.2025 32:07

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Dr. Sean Davis, a leading voice in the couple and family therapy academic world and licensed therapist. Dr. Davis brings to us a topic of masculine and feminine energy in working with families. Kathryn de Bru...

E41. Living and Learning the EFFT Model with Colette Mrazek, RCC 29.07.2025 31:06

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Colette Mrazek, BA(CYC), MEd, RCC-ACS in Vancouver, Canada. Colette shares with us and you about her parallel process of living and learning the EFFT model including self of the person work and self of the th...

E40. Redefining the Bell Curve and Developing your Systemic, Attachment-Based Framework with Katie Humilde, RP 01.07.2025 36:37

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest today is Katie Humilde, MEd, Registered Psychologist in Edmonton, Canada. Our conversation traverses related topics of her journey into EFFT, the humanistic part of this humanistic therapy, and developing a systemic,...

E39. Attachment in Action Series: 4-5 Year Olds with a Systemic, Attachment Lens 17.06.2025 35:43

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Today, Kathryn and Ronda continue the Attachment in Action Series. This episode we focus on the world of the 4-5 year old (up until turning 6 year old). This conversation is taken from the chapter of the same name from the book...

E38. Supporting People with Disabilities Starts with Access with Joey Tapia, PhD 03.06.2025 34:30

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Joey Tapia PhD, CRC, LPC-S, RPT, NCC. Joey specializes in therapy for individuals, couples and families where at at least one person has a disability. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Ka...

E37. Expressive Arts in the EFT Tango with Kids and Teens with Dennis Eames, LMFT 20.05.2025 38:07

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Dennis Eames, LMFT, Certified EFT Supervisor and Therapist located in Washington State. Today our conversation centers around the use of expressive arts in the EFT Tango with kids and teens. Kathryn de Brui...

E36. A Family Systems Frame versus a Diagnostic Frame with Kathryn and Ronda 06.05.2025 40:05

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. In this episode, Kathryn and Ronda talk about making the shift conceptually, and in practice, from a diagnostic frame to a family systems frame.

E35. About our Book "A Jumble of Thoughts and a Tangle of Feelings" with Kathryn and Ronda 22.04.2025 18:07

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT. Today Kathryn and Ronda speak about their book, co-authored with Katie Stefano, "A Jumble of Thoughts and a Tangle of Feelings". Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Trainer. Kathryn and Ronda are both licensed marriage and family therapists, EFT supervisors and therapi...

E34. Self of the Therapist in Learning EFFT with Rikki Kumar, MA, RP, RCC, CCC 08.04.2025 40:48

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Rikki Kumar, MA, RP, RCC, CCC whose life traverses India and Vancouver. He is a certified EFIT, EFCT and EFFT Therapist. He works at the Vancouver EFT Centre. Kathryn de Bruin is an ICEEFT Certified EFT Tra...

E33. Impacting Culture and Context One Person at a Time with Arthur Mensah 25.03.2025 38:23

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Arthur Mensah, MA, an African therapist in Southern California by way of New York who shares his personal philosophy and passion for the field with us today. Thank you for listening! Kathryn de Bruin is an...

E32. Play as an Attachment Need with Clair Mellenthin, LCSW, RPT-S 11.03.2025 42:00

Welcome back for the next journey of The Family Express Podcast with Kathryn de Bruin, LMFT and Ronda Evans, LMFT where our destination is resilient and connected families. Our guest speaker is Clair Mellenthin, a licensed clinical social worker and registered play therapist supervisor in Utah. Today we are talking with Clair about play as an attachment need and attachment based play therapy integ...