Wanda Swan

Come Get Your White People

"Come Get Your White People" is a podcast for the change agent at their wit's end. You're dedicated to dismantling White Supremacy, but tired of arguing with your loved ones, friends, neighbors, strangers at the gas station, and damn near everyone else about the fact that anti-Blackness is a REAL thing. Your effort seems to be in vain and you're running out of arguments and fire, right? GOOD. Your arguments sucked anyway. No shade...slight shade. How do I know? Because I'm an anti-oppressive coach who has spent the past 15 years standing in rooms making liberation a tangible goal for thousands...

Author

Wanda Swan

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Education

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startbytalking.mykajabi.com

Latest episode

Jan 21, 2026

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Episodes

65: Warning: Coach with Me and You May Quit Your Job 29.03.2023

Wanda explains why so many of the people she coaches quit their jobs. Hear how the work under the umbrella of Start By Talking will move you and cause you to move.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com

64: You Don't Want Liberation; You Just Talk Like You Do 22.03.2023

As we wrap up the Practice Liberation Academy launch, Wanda answers the question, "Why PLA and why now?" Hear why you are not done learning, why the work is not done, and why PLA is so important.   Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

63: PLA One Year Later with Becca Williams, Part 2 15.03.2023

Wanda continues her conversation with Becca Williams about the Practice Liberation Academy. They talk about the success of PLA and the changes that are coming for Cohort 2.   Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

62: PLA One Year Later with Becca Williams, Part 1 08.03.2023

Wanda is joined by Becca Williams to discuss the Practice Liberation Academy. Becca was a facilitator in Cohort 1 of PLA and they talk through their experiences and learnings from the first cohort.   Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

61: Launching ABLE: A Look Back at 2022! 01.03.2023

To mark the upcoming One-Year Anniversary of the ABLE Launch Series, we are sharing the launch series we originally ran a year ago. This is the third episode of the three-part series.   This is the second part of the conversation that was started in the previous episode. Lissa Swan, Dr. Marvette Lacy, and I talk more about launching The A.B.L.E. Institute and what it means to do this work.   Learn...

60: Launching ABLE: A Look Back at 2022! 22.02.2023

To mark the upcoming One-Year Anniversary of the ABLE Launch Series, we are sharing the launch series we originally ran a year ago. This is the second episode of the three-part series.   Lissa Swan is back with me and we're joined by our business coach, Dr. Marvette Lacy, for a conversation about the road to A.B.L.E. and what we have learned along the way.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.m...

59: Launching ABLE: A Look Back at 2022! 15.02.2023

To mark the upcoming One-Year Anniversary of the ABLE Launch Series, we are sharing the launch series we originally ran a year ago. This is the first episode of the three-part series.   In this episode, I'm sharing more about The A.B.L.E. Institute, an anti-racism learning center that prioritizes the development of anti-oppressive advocacy skills for professionals seeking to expand their anti-raci...

58: Vulnerability is Your Anti-Oppressive Super Power 10.02.2023

Wanda talks about vulnerability and why it is so important on your anti-oppressive journey. Vulnerability is one part of the Practice Liberation Academy framework and Wanda shares how being vulnerable will help you move from just being performative to actually practicing liberation.   Join the Practice Liberation Academy at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy   Learn mor...

57: Practicing Liberation In Real Life 01.02.2023

Wanda is joined by Jane Wolff, a member of the Practice Liberation Academy. Jane shares her experience in the program and why it has been so valuable in her life.   Learn more about Good Wolff Dog Training at https://www.goodwolff.com/   Follow Jane @a.jane.wolff   Email questions to a.jane.wolff@gmail.com   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.co...

56: If you don't like Megan Thee Stallion, you don't like Black Women 25.01.2023

Wanda is back with dr. janine weaver-douglas to discuss the hate campaign that Megan Thee Stallion endured. They talk about misogynoir and share their encouraging messages to Megan along with their hopes for her life and career.   Learn more about dr. janine weaver-douglas at https://www.drjanineweaverdouglas.com/   Follow dr. janine weaver-douglas @plzsaythedoctor   Learn more at https://startbyt...

55: That One Time My Boss Called Me BET 18.01.2023

Wanda talks to organizational leaders and asks them some very specific questions. Listen to hear how you can practice liberation within your organization and work to dismantle white supremacy.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

54: A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To This Podcast Episode 11.01.2023

Wanda shares how 2023 is going so far and reminds you of the opportunity to invest in The Green Book Project. Make sure you listened to last week's episode with Christian Lowe to learn all about this valuable app and why it is so important.   Learn more about The Green Book Project at https://www.thegreenbook.io/   Invest in The Green Book Project at https://wefunder.com/thegreenbookproject   Lear...

53: The Green Book Project with Christian Lowe 04.01.2023

Wanda is joined by Christian Lowe of The Green Book Project, a mobile app that helps people from marginalized groups find inclusive businesses and avoid discrimination. Christian shares the story of how the app was started and how you can help further its mission.   Learn more about The Green Book Project at https://www.thegreenbook.io/   Invest in The Green Book Project at https://wefunder.com/th...

52: Year in Review 28.12.2022

Wanda and Lissa sit down together to discuss this year. They share what happened in 2022, both personally and professionally, and what it meant to each of them.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

51: Too Much and Not Enough: Why the World Hates Black Womxn 21.12.2022

Wanda discusses recent events involving Brittney Griner and Megan Thee Stallion and shares why the world hates Black womxn. Hear how Black womxn have been "othered" and where that leaves them today.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

50: Can You Be 1% Better? 14.12.2022

As you continue to build your anti-oppressive identity, consider shifting your oppressive habits by just 1%. Wanda explains how a 1% improvement in each area will make a big impact towards the goal.   Learn more about the Building Your Anti-Oppressive Identity Coaching Program - https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/anti-opressive-identity   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email...

49: The Problem with Herschel Walker: A Rant on Old Tropes 09.12.2022

Wanda discusses the problem with Herschel Walker and rants on old tropes. Listen to hear how Herschel Walker is tied to White Supremacy, on both sides. This system is dangerous and we need to dismantle it.   Watch on YouTube   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

48: Oppressive Muscle Memory and All It's Lil Friends 16.11.2022

Wanda continues helping you build your anti-oppressive identity by discussing Dr. Sherry Watt's Privileged Identity Exploration Model (the PIE Model). This model helps explain why unraveling yourself from your Oppressive Muscle Memory is so hard.   Learn more about the Building Your Anti-Oppressive Identity Coaching Program   Watch on YouTube   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/  ...

47: Building Your Anti-Oppressive Identity 09.11.2022

The next few episodes will cover the core foundational pieces of understanding you need to build your anti-oppressive identity. Wanda begins by sharing the definition of Oppressive Muscle Memory.   Learn more about the Building Your Anti-Oppressive Identity Coaching Program   Watch on YouTube   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

46: Black Women Leaders: Liberation Through Unlearning with Lauren Turner Hines 02.11.2022

Wanda talks with Lauren Turner Hines about Black women leaders continuing the journey to liberation. They discuss Lauren's experience and the ways she is a liberation-maker through unlearning.   Learn more about Lauren Turner Hines at https://www.nodreamdeferrednola.com/   Follow Lauren Turner Hines @somebdysmother or @nddnola   Watch on YouTube   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/...

45: Normalizing that "Oh Shit" Feeling of Failing 26.10.2022

Wanda discusses failing and why it is necessary in anti-oppressive work. She encourages you to get comfortable with that "oh shit" feeling as you practice liberation for a better world for us all.   Download the Free Guide: 5 Habits to Build Your Anti-Oppressive Identity   Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MXBCR6AfIfs   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtin...

44: On The Road To Liberation with Dr. Renai Ellison 19.10.2022

Wanda is joined again by Dr. Renai Ellison to discuss how her life has been since her book was released. They talk about the road to liberation, what Dr. Ellison has learned, and what she is still learning.   Learn more about Dr. Renai Ellison at https://www.iwillembracelife.com/ or email her at renai@iwillembracelife.com   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sb...

43: Mississippi Goddamn Part 2: Jackson Water Crisis 12.10.2022

Wanda continues talking about Mississippi as she covers the Jackson water crisis. She discusses how it happened and how it is connected to other oppressive acts, including environmental racism.    Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

42: Mississippi Goddamn Part 1: Brett Favre 05.10.2022

Wanda discusses the recent Brett Favre welfare scandal that has rocked the state of Mississippi. Hear how Mississippi has a long history of upholding race-based value systems and how this recent incident is an example of the relationship between poverty and profit.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

41: Going Back To Go Forward 21.09.2022

Wanda shares what has been going on in the past month and how the highs and lows have affected her life and business. Hear what changes are being made and the lessons she's learning along the way.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

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