Wanda Swan

Come Get Your White People

"Come Get Your White People" is a podcast for the change agent at their wit's end. You're dedicated to dismantling White Supremacy, but tired of arguing with your loved ones, friends, neighbors, strangers at the gas station, and damn near everyone else about the fact that anti-Blackness is a REAL thing. Your effort seems to be in vain and you're running out of arguments and fire, right? GOOD. Your arguments sucked anyway. No shade...slight shade. How do I know? Because I'm an anti-oppressive coach who has spent the past 15 years standing in rooms making liberation a tangible goal for thousands...

Author

Wanda Swan

Category

Education

Podcast website

startbytalking.mykajabi.com

Latest episode

Jan 21, 2026

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Episodes

90: Model Behavior: Art, Disability, and Social Change with Syanne Centeno-Bloom 11.10.2023

Wanda talks with Syanne Centeno-Bloom, an autistic activist and disabled model, about the work she is doing. Syanne shares about her experiences and why she is so committed to social change.   Learn more about Syanne on Instagram @syannebloom .   Listen to the Unveiling Democracy Podcast .   Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy   Lea...

89: Beyond Achieving: Exploring Black Entrepreneurship with Dr. Shaquinta Richardson 29.09.2023

Wanda is joined by another Black Woman Entrepreneur, Dr. Shaquinta Richardson of Beyond Achieving. Dr. Shaquinta tells her story and how she is committed to the liberation of Black women in all areas of life.   Learn more about Dr. Shaquinta at  beyondachieving.com   Join the Cheat on Your Job Collective at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/cheatonyourjob   Join the Practice Liberation Academy...

88: Liv Abundant: Exploring Black Entrepreneurship with Allison Butler 20.09.2023

Wanda talks with another Black Woman Entrepreneur, Allison Butler of Liv Abundant. Allison shares her journey and how she is unapologetically setting up multiple streams of income to find freedom.   Learn more about Allison and Liv Abundant at @livabundant .   Join the Cheat on Your Job Collective at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/cheatonyourjob   Join the Practice Liberation Academy at  htt...

87: Liberation Is Lit: Exploring Black Entrepreneurship with Tayler Simon 13.09.2023

As we continue to unravel the history of Black entrepreneurship, we are putting the focus on Black Women Entrepreneurs. Wanda talks with Tayler Simon of Liberation is Lit, to hear her story and see how she has taken up the legacy to achieve liberation.   Learn more about Tayler and Liberation is Lit at liberationislit.com   Join the Cheat on Your Job Collective at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi....

86: Blackity-Black September: Centering the History of Black Entrepreneurship in America 08.09.2023

Wanda shares the history of Black entrepreneurship in America. She discusses why Black entrepreneurship rat tles the original structure of capitalism, and how soon Black folx realized the quickest way to get their freedom was to create systems for themselves.   Join the Anti-Oppressive Supervision Program at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/anti-oppressive-supervision   Join the Cheat on Your J...

85: Anti-Oppressive Supervision: What Cultural Competency Gets Wrong 30.08.2023

Wanda discusses Anti-Oppressive Supervision, an approach to leadership and management that seeks to dismantle systems of oppression and foster equitable working environments. She shares more about this upcoming 8 week hybrid learning opportunity, and how it came about.   Join the Anti-Oppressive Supervision Program at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/anti-oppressive-supervision   Join the Cheat...

84: Reproductive Justice Is Not Just About Abortion with Khye Tyson, Part 2 23.08.2023

In part 2 of this conversation, Wanda and Khye Tyson talk about why reproductive justice and liberation have to be linked in order for people to experience life. They discuss the importance of cultivating a community to provide support outside of established systems.   Learn more about Khye and the Kuluntu Reproductive Justice Center at  https://kuluntu.center/   Join the Cheat on Your Job Collect...

83: Reproductive Justice Is Not Just About Abortion with Khye Tyson, Part 1 16.08.2023

Wanda talks with Khye Tyson, founder of Kuluntu Reproductive Justice Center, about reproductive justice as a tool for liberation. In part 1 of this conversation, Khye shares their journey and how that has led to the work they do today.   Learn more about Khye and the Kuluntu Reproductive Justice Center at  https://kuluntu.center/   Join the Cheat on Your Job Collective at  https://startbytalking.m...

82: Extinction Bursts and Riverboat Brawls: Where the Fuck Around meets the Find Out 11.08.2023

Wanda talks about how the recent riverfront brawl in Montgomery, Alabama is an example of an extinction burst happening in real time. Hear why extinction bursts are indicators that society is changing and disruption is working.   Review the Equal Justice Initiative brochure here .   Join the Practice Liberation Academy at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/practiceliberationacademy   Learn more a...

81: Trans Women Are Women: A Rant and A Read, Part 2 02.08.2023

In Part 2 on this topic, Wanda explains why Trans Women are Women. She shares that when oppressed people oppress further oppressed people, they are justifying and reinforcing White Supremacy.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

80: Trans Women Are Women: A Rant and A Read, Part 1 26.07.2023

In Part 1 on this topic, Wanda talks about the internalization of White Supremacy and how it affects Black Women and their treatment of others. She discusses the recent dialog around Black Trans Women and outlines some vocabulary words and labels.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

79: The Racist History of Student Loan Debt 19.07.2023

Wanda talks about the recent student loan debt forgiveness discussions. She explains the racist history of student loans and how student loan debt is one of the most racist orchestrations of capitalism.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

78: I Don't Argue With No Damn Body No More 14.07.2023

Wanda explains why she doesn't argue with anyone anymore. She shares the process she uses to structure conversations around controversial topics to remove emotion so progress can be made.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com

77: Cop City, Part 2 28.06.2023

Wanda continues with part two of her discussion of Cop City. She explains where things stand today and why you should care about this situation.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com

76: Cop City, Part 1 21.06.2023

Wanda discusses Cop City, the nickname given to a police training facility slated to open in Atlanta, Georgia. She explains the controversy in the current headlines and gives some insight into land use throughout time.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com

75: What 40 Taught Me 14.06.2023

This episode is a birthday reflection as Wanda moves from 40 to 41. She shares all the things she's learned this past year and what she expects in the coming year.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

74: My Anti-Oppressive Community, Part 2 with Jacqueline Wilburn 31.05.2023

In part 2 of Wanda's conversation with her Aunt Jackie, Aunt Jackie shares her perspective on their community and how everyone worked together. Wanda expresses how happy she is to be a part of, and to come from, a community that was intentionally built to save them.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

73: My Anti-Oppressive Community, Part 1 with Jacqueline Wilburn 24.05.2023

Wanda continues highlighting her Anti-Oppressive community as she talks with her Aunt Jackie. Aunt Jackie explains her role as a liaison between two communities and the goals she had for the next generation.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

72: My Anti-Oppressive Community, Part 2 with Dr. Linda McMullen 17.05.2023

In part 2 of Wanda's conversation with her Aunt Faye, Aunt Faye shares more about what Wanda and Lissa were like as children. Wanda reflects on the ways they were taught how to live in community with one another, including important lessons on how to argue, disagree, and forgive each other.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

71: My Anti-Oppressive Community, Part 1 with Dr. Linda McMullen 10.05.2023

Wanda is joined by her Aunt Faye, Dr. Linda McMullen, and they discuss the ways that Aunt Faye took on her role as aunt, caretaker, and second mom, to instill the skill sets and values that became necessary for Wanda and Lissa to do the work that they do today.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

70: Walking The Talk: Creating An Anti-Oppressive Community, Part 1 03.05.2023

Wanda explores the community aspect of creating a sustainability plan around liberation. She shares why community is valuable as you grow.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

69: The Origin and Impact of Digital Blackface 26.04.2023

Wanda explores the history and popularity of Digital Blackface, the prevalence of Black culture being appropriated by non-Black folx. She shares how these forms of "entertainment and laughs" have been used to dehumanize an entire race and culture for centuries.   CNN Article: What's 'digital blackface?' And why is it wrong when White people use it?   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi....

68: TN GOP, Anti-Blackness, and White Motherhood 19.04.2023

Wanda discusses the recent political firestorm around gun control laws. Hear why now is the time for white women to take action and disrupt the system.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

67: Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark, and the Racist Defense of White Womanhood 12.04.2023

Wanda explores the double standard of race regarding Black athletes. She discusses the recent events involving LSU's Angel Reese and Iowa's Caitlin Clark and shares how whiteness does all it can to remind people of their place.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

66: PLA This Time Around with Lissa Swan 05.04.2023

Wanda is joined by Lissa Swan to discuss the Practice Liberation Academy this time around. Hear about the sense of groundedness Lissa brings and what updates and considerations are now a part of PLA.   Learn more at  https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to  sbtinfo@wanswan.com  

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