Wanda Swan

Come Get Your White People

"Come Get Your White People" is a podcast for the change agent at their wit's end. You're dedicated to dismantling White Supremacy, but tired of arguing with your loved ones, friends, neighbors, strangers at the gas station, and damn near everyone else about the fact that anti-Blackness is a REAL thing. Your effort seems to be in vain and you're running out of arguments and fire, right? GOOD. Your arguments sucked anyway. No shade...slight shade. How do I know? Because I'm an anti-oppressive coach who has spent the past 15 years standing in rooms making liberation a tangible goal for thousands...

Author

Wanda Swan

Category

Education

Podcast website

startbytalking.mykajabi.com

Latest episode

Jan 21, 2026

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Episodes

40: A Conversation with Jane Elliott, Part 4 14.09.2022

In the last part of Wanda's conversation with Jane Elliott, they talk about finding the humor that comes out of the fatigue of fighting oppression. You also hear how their personal experiences create differences in how they view the construct of race. Wanda expresses her gratitude for the amazing opportunity to talk with Jane. Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to s...

Be Back Next Week 07.09.2022

Wanda shares a behind-the-scenes update and explains that she'll be back next week with more reflection on the conversation with Jane Elliott.

39: A Conversation with Jane Elliott, Part 3 31.08.2022

Continuing the conversation with Jane Elliott, Wanda and Jane discuss issues around safety with the work they do. They talk about where we are headed and Jane shares why she has no choice but to stay in this movement.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

38: A Conversation with Jane Elliott, Part 2 24.08.2022

In a continuation of Wanda's conversation with Jane Elliott, Jane shares why she still has work to do and how she continues to unravel her own social conditioning. She says we're all conditioned badly and we need to recognize that to change it for our children. Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

37: A Conversation with Jane Elliott, Part 1 17.08.2022

Wanda talks with Jane Elliott, internationally known teacher, lecturer, and diversity trainer. In part 1 of this conversation, Jane discusses the effects of the evangelical Christian movement, how the construct of race was formed, and how she got started in this work.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

36: The Celebrity Interview That Left Me Shook 10.08.2022

Wanda reveals who she was able to interview that left her shook. She explains how this interview came to be, and how it will be shared on the podcast in the coming weeks.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

35: Coaching Over-Achieving Black Girl Syndrome in a White World 03.08.2022

Wanda talks with her coaching client, Renai Ellison, about her experience getting coached on Over-Achieving Black Girl Syndrome. Renai shares her story and talks about the realizations she's had that have led to her personal and professional success.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

34: LinkedIn Beef and Phyllis Wheatley 27.07.2022

Wanda explains what's been going on over on LinkedIn and discusses a realization about Phyllis Wheatley. Wanda also shares that she has opened up her calendar and invites you to book some time for a conversation with her. Schedule your time with Wanda at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/ig-links  

33: Yes, the world sucks, but… 20.07.2022

Wanda acknowledges that the world sucks and shares what you can do about it. If you have found yourself feeling hopeless, listen to hear how you can take action to practice liberation.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

32: Over-Achieving Black Girl Syndrome 13.07.2022

Episode Summary   Wanda discusses Over-Achieving Black Girl Syndrome. She discusses the way Black women show up and exist in a system that promises safety. Learn how this impacts us all and what you can do about it.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

31: Juneteenth and Roe v. Wade: Whiteness is Low Down, Chile! 29.06.2022

Wanda talks about Juneteenth and the recent decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. She shares why these issues have far reaching implications and discusses how low down White Supremacy really is.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

30: What 39 Taught Me 15.06.2022

On her 40th birthday, Wanda reflects on what 39 taught her. She shares that her 39th year was a rollercoaster and discusses the big lessons she learned around life, business, and love.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

29: I'm Tired: A Mass Shooting Rant 08.06.2022

Wanda discusses recent mass shootings. Do not let White Supremacy separate you from your humanity. Wanda shares three things you can do today to ensure that you do not detach from the impact of Black death.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

28: Human AF 01.06.2022

Wanda shares what is going on, requests questions for an upcoming Q&A session, and previews a new coaching program that focuses on unraveling oppressive muscle memory.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Email questions to sbtinfo@wanswan.com

27: Parenting Black Children While White, Part 2 25.05.2022

Meg Bossong is back for part 2 of this discussion about parenting Black children while identifying as White. Meg talks about her conversations with other White parents and how deep those conversations need to go.   Connect with Meg on Twitter @meggieb528

26: Parenting Black Children While White, Part 1 18.05.2022

Meg Bossong joins us for a discussion about parenting Black children while identifying as White. Meg shares her experience with being responsible for Black children and what she has learned along the way.   Connect with Meg on Twitter @meggieb528

25: The Misunderstanding of My Superhero Energy: Defending Hancock 11.05.2022

Wanda shares the superhero personality that she relates to in the work that she does. She discusses how she loves humanity and shares the type of clients she is looking for.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Follow Start By Talking @startbytalking    Email Wanda directly at sbtinfo@wanswan.com

BONUS: Spend the Summer With Us! 04.05.2022

Today we're sharing more about our Anti-Oppressive Advocacy Online Course. We discuss the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy framework, how it got started, and the process that the course follows.   Learn more at https://startbytalking.mykajabi.com/   Sign up for the Anti-Oppressive Advocacy Online Course   Email Wanda directly at sbtinfo@wanswan.com

24: The Oscar Slap and White Noise, Part 3 27.04.2022

Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas joins us for part 3 of this conversation about Will Smith slapping Chris Rock at the Academy Awards. We discuss how this event shows us how much work we still have to do and what happens next.   Connect with Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas at https://www.drjanineweaverdouglas.com/   Connect with Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas on Instagram @plzsaythedoctor   Connect with Dr. Janine W...

23: The Oscar Slap and White Noise, Part 2 20.04.2022

Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas is back to continue our conversation about Will Smith slapping Chris Rock at the Academy Awards. We discuss the roles everyone took in this scenario and who the real victims are.   Connect with Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas at https://www.drjanineweaverdouglas.com/   Connect with Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas on Instagram @plzsaythedoctor   Connect with Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas...

22: The Oscar Slap and White Noise, Part 1 13.04.2022

We are here with Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas, to talk about Will Smith slapping Chris Rock at the Academy Awards. We talk about the incident that left everyone speechless when it happened, and the factors that affected the discussion about it after the fact.   Connect with Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas at https://www.drjanineweaverdouglas.com/   Connect with Dr. Janine Weaver-Douglas on Instagram @plzsa...

21: Liberatory Mental Health Practices 06.04.2022

Dr. JaNae Taylor joins us to talk about Anti-Blackness in the field of mental health. She shares the story of creating her own spaces where Blackness is centered.   Connect with Dr. JaNae Taylor at https://mindingmyblackbusiness.com/   Listen to the Minding My Black Business Podcast

20: Anti-Violence and Anti-Blackness: A Conversation of Contradiction, Part 2 30.03.2022

LB Klein is back with us today for more discussion about Anti-Blackness in the Anti-Violence field. LB talks more about her experiences and what she's learned. Connect with LB on Twitter @ lb_klein

19: Anti-Violence and Anti-Blackness: A Conversation of Contradiction, Part 1 23.03.2022

LB Klein is with us today for a 2 part conversation around Anti-Blackness in the Anti-Violence field. LB shares her perspective on the 3 things that need to happen for change to happen.   Connect with LB on Twitter @ lb_klein

18: Oppressive Muscle Memory 16.03.2022

Michael Shutt is here to discuss examining oppressive muscle memory. He talks about his realization that the system taught him how to be a really good racist, and the work he had to do to unravel all of that so he can now do the work of practicing liberation.   Connect with Michael on Facebook: Michael Shutt   Email Michael: michaeldshutt@gmail.com

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