Chris & Lisa

Been There Got Out Podcast

Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that. If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based on one's years of success (representing myself in court!), coupled with the other's High Conflict Divorce Coach certification. Our podcast features interviews with lawyers, therapists, co-parenting...

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Chris & Lisa

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Education

Podcast website

BeenThereGotOut.com

Latest episode

Jun 25, 2026

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Episodes

Self-Advocacy Can Be Really Exhausting: How Hypnotherapy Can Help You Regain Your Life (and Sleep)! - with Hypnotherapist Annie Alexander 20.03.2023

BTGO welcomes Washington state hypnotherapist Annie Alexander (Instagram: @northwesthypnosis) who speaks about how hypnosis can help eliminate triggers, combat gaslighting, and create a buffer to neutralize trauma, even if you are still experiencing it. She also gets into a number of the side benefits people experience from getting those "cats" out of their head. Our book, “Been There Go...

How Taxes Impact the Divorce Process & What You Can Do To Get The Money You're Entitled To - with Paul Mendelsohn 14.02.2023

BTGO welcomes NJ CPA Paul Mendelsohn (Instagram: @paulmendelsohn_cpa) who discusses red flags to watch for with an accountant during the divorce process, how you can handle the IRS if your ex files false information on tax returns, and a number of resources you can use to help you get through this! Need help with your own situation? Go to our website BeenThereGotOut.com and sign up for a free Disc...

I Can't Save You, But You're Still Going To Be OK: An Unfortunate Fortunate Experience - with Alex Shaw 12.02.2023

BTGO welcomes Canadian Alex Shaw (Instagram: @alexandria_m_c), who shares her incredible story of being trafficked and living with a gang (which saved her life!) to working with law enforcement and other services so that what happened to her won't happen to others. She also gets into what family members and friends can do to actually help loved ones in dangerous relationships. Thanks so much...

Getting Comfortable with Doing the Uncomfortable: How to Help Your Kids (and Yourself) Build Confidence - with Gloria Williams 08.02.2023

BTGO welcomes author, musician, educator, and presence advocate, Gloria Williams (Instagram: @iamgloriawilliams), who discusses how to help kids build confidence through songwriting, the significance of building safe spaces and community, and tips on how to help your child conquer fear. Need help with your own situation? Go to our website BeenThereGotOut.com and sign up for a free Discovery call (...

Tips To Properly Prepare for Divorce (Especially Financial!) - with Attorney Cathy Jones 06.02.2023

BTGO welcomes Minnesota family lawyer Cathy Jones (Instagram: @cat.jones.90), who talks about the important stuff you need to know to properly prepare for divorce, including some things to think about if you move out of the house, exactly why to be very careful with posting anything on social media (again!), and what to know about removing items from your home, both before and after a divorce is f...

Managing Expectations and Radical Acceptance In Family Court - with NY attorney Stephanie 30.01.2023

BTGO welcomes back our friend and NY family lawyer and domestic violence attorney (as well as TikTok superstar), Stephanie (Instagram @steph_ny_law), who discusses what it really takes for a court to enforce orders, how to prepare before trying to get a restraining order, and why getting specific language in your custody order is so important. Need help with your own situation? Go to our website B...

How to Strengthen Your Relationships with Your Kids (Especially When They Are Being Turned Against You) - with Clarissa Constantine 27.01.2023

BTGO welcomes educator and child relationship expert Clarissa Constantine from Parent T(w)een Connection (Instagram @parentweenconnection), who speaks in depth about the foundations of connection to use to ensure that you are your child's safe space, what to do during emotional explosions, and why it's so important to give yourself the space to be human. Need help with your own situation...

How To Find the Hidden Money You Are Entitled To During Your Divorce - with Tracy Coenen 25.01.2023

BTGO welcomes forensic accountant and investigator Tracy Coenen (Instagram @divorcemoneyguide), who discusses how to tell if there's financial fraud in your marriage, why it's so important to do a cost/benefit analysis before hiring a forensic expert, and how to save yourself money during the discovery process. Need help with your own situation? Go to our website BeenThereGotOut.com and...

"No One Has Been There for Me”: When Your Narcissist Ex Aligns with Your Toxic Family Against You in Family Court - with Marnie Grundman 22.01.2023

BTGO welcomes back Canadian author, survivor, trauma expert, therapist, and TikTok superstar Marnie Grundman (Instagram @marniegrundman), who talks about the awful and unfortunately common situation of your toxic ex aligning with your abusive parents during a court battle, how our childhood trauma reappears through triggers during legal abuse, and how we can learn to trust ourselves in the midst o...

How We Internalize The Narcissist's Voice As Our Own, and How To Get It Out of Our Heads - with Chelsey Brooke Cole 19.01.2023

BTGO welcomes back therapist, author, narcissistic abuse expert, and our good friend Chelsey Brooke Cole (Instagram @chelseybrookecole), who talks about the way the narcissist's voice gets into your head, how you slowly lose yourself, and most importantly, how to get yourself back after ending the relationship! Need help with your own situation? Go to our website BeenThereGotOut.com and sign...

Top 18+ Hacks: How To Find Hidden Assets During Your Divorce with Michigan family lawyer JayAttorney 16.01.2023

BTGO welcomes Michigan family lawyer and former investigator JayAttorney (Instagram @tipsdivorceattorney), who talks about financial fraud and shares her list of incredible ways to find your ex's HIDDEN ASSETS and protect yourself from financial abuse during your divorce. Need help with your own situation? Go to our website, BeenThereGotOut.com, and sign up for a free discovery call, or check...

How a Collaborative Approach Works in a Custody Evaluation - with Dr. Liz Stilwell 13.01.2023

BTGO welcomes NY psychologist, evaluator, and risk assessment expert Dr. Liz Stilwell (Instagram @drstilwell), who talks about the different types of evaluators used for custody, how a background in psychology may be helpful, and how and why professionals realistically handle claims of parental alienation. The controversial topic of reunification therapy and reunification camps is part of this pro...

Lessening the Conflict When Divorcing a High-Conflict Personality - with family lawyer, CEO, and founder of Hello Divorce, Erin Levine 11.01.2023

BTGO welcomes California family lawyer Erin Levine (Instagram: @hellodivorce), who talks about some red flags that indicate a high-conflict divorce and ways to lower the conflict during the process, including some answers to questions from our live audience. Need help with your own situation? Go to our website BeenThereGotOut.com and sign up for a free Discovery call (click the top red button on t...

How To Form Secure Attachments With Your Children (And Preserve Your Relationship with Them When Dealing with a Toxic Co-Parent) - with Dawn Brauer 25.11.2022

In this episode, BTGO welcomes back our good friend, Dawn Brauer (Instagram @securebabies), an expert on child development, who talks about what you can do when your toxic ex is trying to alienate your children and how feeling frazzled is a signal that something needs to be healed, and walks us through her “S.E.C.U.R.E.” acronym by explaining exactly how we can help our kids be as happy and health...

What "Parental Alienation" Really Means and How To Handle Children Who Have Been (Or Are Being) Alienated from You - with Dr. Mark Singer 11.11.2022

In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome back New Jersey psychologist and custody evaluator Dr. Mark Singer (Instagram @drmarksinger) who speaks about what parental alienation actually means - that it's not a syndrome, but a series of behaviors - ways a parent may be encouraging a child to reject another parent, and what you can do if you are being rejected by your child,...

How to Prepare for a Successful Custody Evaluation (from an Evaluator Schooled in Coercive Control) - with Dr. Mark Singer 08.11.2022

BTGO welcomes New Jersey custody evaluator, Dr. Mark Singer (Instagram @drmarksinger), who discusses the importance of cultural knowledge and comfort when choosing an evaluator, how to best prepare for the process, and how courts are not meant to raise your children. This is just Part I of the conversation, and Part II will involve how to deal with parental alienation behaviors if one parent is tr...

A Lawyer Who "Gets It:" Interview with Dr. Jude Egan 30.10.2022

In this episode, BTGO welcomes California attorney, Dr. Jude Egan (Instagram @jude_should_be_writing), who talks about why the job of children's advocates - like minors' counsels or attorneys for the children, is so tricky; how lowering legal fees benefits both lawyers and clients; some pros and cons of “unbundled services;” and how his own personal loss in court was a big win in expandi...

How Family Court is a "Wounded Human" Problem, and How to Regain Your Power and Help Your Kids - with Michelle, the “Pistol Whip Hippie” 29.09.2022

In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome our friend, fellow coach, and author, Michelle (Instagram @the_pistolwhip_hippie), who talks about some of the unique problems people face when viewing family court and its authority figures as a place for validation, how what looks like punishment might be a positive opportunity, and especially how to help your children cope with a tox...

What I Did Right, Wrong, and Had No Control Over - with Katie 26.09.2022

In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, which gets pretty intense, we welcome our friend Katie (Instagram @kwg19). 20 years after escaping with her children to a women's shelter, she reflects back on getting help where she least expected it, the horror of family court, and the long-term effects of her experience on herself and her children. Remember, if you are struggling in a high...

Superstar Judge & TikTok A-Lister Anthony Bompiani 23.09.2022

On this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome retired judge and family lawyer Anthony Bompiani (TikTok @anthonybompiani) for more reality checks and wisdom on how to handle our children being forced to go with a toxic parent, being under the microscope of family court, self-validation, what to ask before hiring an attorney, vexatious litigation, his answer to family court reform, a...

The Significant Impact of Trauma Bonding In High-Conflict Divorce, and How To Protect Yourself - with superstar coach, author, and podcaster, Matt Phifer 20.09.2022

On this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome superstar coach, author, and podcaster Matt Phifer (Instagram @mattphifercoaching), who talks about trauma bonding and its impact on making a separation or divorce much more difficult, why knowing your rights is IMPERATIVE, and why it's essential to cut all ties other than with the kids during the court process. Remember, if you ar...

How Mediation Can Empower Someone in a High Conflict Divorce or Co-parenting Relationship, as Well as Make Sure A Child's Voice Is Heard - with Dr. Barb Hughson 17.09.2022

In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome back our great friend, Dr. Barb Hughson (Instagram @drbarbh), a professional mediator and therapist with a strong background in child psychology, decades of experience, and unrivaled EMPATHY. We talk about how to prepare for mediation, make it as successful as possible when dealing with a high conflict personality, ways to avoid future...

Maryann's Nightmare of Abuse by Proxy - with Maryann Petri 02.09.2022

In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome the host of the Slam the Gavel podcast, Maryann Petri. After years of peacefully co-parenting, Maryann suddenly found herself fending off allegations of child abuse by her ex-husband and his new wife (who also worked at the courthouse). The experience caused severe physical, emotional, and financial damage. Forced to go pro se, Maryann...

How To Protect Yourself from Parental Alienation Claims When Dealing With a Toxic Ex: Parenting Plans, Relocations, and Legal Agreements - with California Family Law Attorney Brian Pakkpour 31.08.2022

In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome California Family Law Attorney Brian Pakpour (TikTok @brithefamilyguy), who talks about realistic expectations in divorce agreements with a high-conflict partner, the nitty-gritty details that should be included in parenting plans, and then, for the first time publicly, shares an emotional, personal story from his own life as a child of...

How To Best Protect Yourself Physically From a Dangerous Person - with Steve the Bodyguard 29.08.2022

In this episode of the Been There Got Out Podcast, we welcome back Steve the Bodyguard (Instagram @protectionfromabuse @thebodyguard.official), who offers a wealth of information about the nature of STALKING, why restraining orders actually are more than just a piece of paper, and the importance of a weapon to protect yourself if you are in an abusive relationship (and what the best option is and...

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